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07-22-2011 , 02:04 AM
that's mostly directed at metsey.
we are not lynching telco over milk
no
bad
naughty.
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07-22-2011 , 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
Fourcubed is silman still ur best read or was that cover?
oh, he's still an obvious wolf
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07-22-2011 , 04:19 AM
Also oops on trying to push donk earlier in the game, seers sound wolfy yo
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07-22-2011 , 05:08 AM
guess its time for me to reconsider my mets = wolf read
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07-22-2011 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
[B]chrja[/B

other good lynches
mets
dean
silman
one thing that still bothers me about mets is that i got great respect for sun, and now that we know dean was a villager, I know i am, i really think silman is mets is actually the last on sun's list. could he really be 0/4 on his wolf leans
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07-22-2011 , 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by chrja
one thing that still bothers me about mets is that i got great respect for sun, and now that we know dean was a villager, I know i am, i really think silman is mets is actually the last on sun's list. could he really be 0/4 on his wolf leans
yes he could

and that isn't really a read ^.^
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07-22-2011 , 05:26 AM
chrja - i am a villager, but i haven't been SHC or anything - Herbie is basically the only one clearing me - that bothers me some, i think i have been fairly villagery but its only herbie seeing it, so he is either better then the rest or a wolf trying to make friends.

HerbieGRD - been pushing two wolfs, and had a wolf pushing him, not a person i am gonna vote within the next couple of days.

metsandfinsfan - Found him wolfy tried fakepeeking him wolf to gain a NK, didn't get nked so probably not a wolf, even do he could be letting me get a day more to see if my next peek was right - but donk claiming kind of ruined that - not gonna vote him today.

MilkReggae - I really liked his response to herbie calling him out where he said - "I would be voting me based on that case" i really think thats a villagery response

Silman - interacting a lot and his way of doing it seems really free flowing i would be surprised if he was a villager

sixfour - peeked villager

Telcontar - anything about him screams wolf to me, but he has been seer hunt cleared.

vyk07 - peeked villager

ZomgHax - i got nothing on him, so by POE he has to be a wolf.

my preferred lynch would be something in the line off

Zomg>Milk>Telc>Mets>silman>Herbie
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07-22-2011 , 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Silman
yes he could

and that isn't really a read ^.^
it wasn't suppose to be a read, it was me thinking out loud.
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07-22-2011 , 05:36 AM
another thought i can't seem to get rid of is - if the wolfs are Herbie/telc it makes great sens that herbie is trying to get people to lynch outside the SHC people - but on the other hand that makes perfect sens if he was a villager as well so its probably just me being really paranoid - and its probably just related to me keeping on thinking that telc is a wolf, i got a tendency to get tunnel vision like that as villager.
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07-22-2011 , 05:42 AM
so it's milk/zomg right?
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07-22-2011 , 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Silman
so it's milk/zomg right?
It might very well be.
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07-22-2011 , 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
if i'm seer i peeked donk, sixfour, and mets villager

somebody should re-read milk to see if he's wolf #4. he was awfully gung ho about getting his vote on somebody other than gat who might get lynched.
i seriously doubt that the wolfs FPS a NK on day 2 - so this should clear mets.
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07-22-2011 , 05:52 AM
move mets to the bottom of my lynch list - i have to admit i probably was wrong about him.
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07-22-2011 , 05:58 AM
Telc if you are a villager that just are really busy, now is the time to step up, do a complete re-read and help the village solve this game, i kind of feel that you are the key to solving this game.
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07-22-2011 , 06:00 AM
My fear right now is that zomg and milk both flips villager and we end up in a ML situation with me telc, silman, mets and herbie.
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07-22-2011 , 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by chrja
My fear right now is that zomg and milk both flips villager and we end up in a ML situation with me telc, silman, mets and herbie.
in that spot it's probably you and mets, but I'd eat my detective if that's the case.
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07-22-2011 , 06:08 AM
so i figure i'm dying tonight, i'm going to get a full reread in after they've climbed l'alpe d'huez in today's stage, not sure why as it's blatantly silman and probably one of zomg/chrja
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07-22-2011 , 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by chrja
Telc if you are a villager that just are really busy, now is the time to step up, do a complete re-read and help the village solve this game, i kind of feel that you are the key to solving this game.
So you missed me re-reading the entire thread yesterday.

These are the people that I am NEVER advocating a lynch on for at least the next 3 days

Telcontar
64
mets
silman
herbie
Vyk07


Telcontar - I'm a villager obv and I'm SHC from YKW
64 - Peeked villager by donkaments
Mets - SHC from Dean
Silman - His post count and post count alone.
Herbie - Busses 2 wolves, xxsooted and mrgatito ? No, He's just a villager
Vyk07 - Peeked villager by donkaments



Zomg/Chrja/Milk wins this game for us 100% of the time.

If there's a final 3 and Silman is in it, I would lynch him then, but I would never lynch him on the basis of his posting to this stage in this game.


Chrja, as far as I am concerned you are getting lynched in the next 3 days, if you promise to be a good boy I'll be fine with not advocating your lynch until final 5.

Order for me is zomg/chrja/milk >>>>>>>>>>> Silman >>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone!


Do not stray from this order. Hold the course! We will win!



btw donk, great play!
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07-22-2011 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
so i figure i'm dying tonight, i'm going to get a full reread in after they've climbed l'alpe d'huez in today's stage, not sure why as it's blatantly silman and probably one of zomg/chrja
well that's fine.

we lynch from here for the next 4 days :: zomg/chrja/milk/silman


basically we don't lynch outside that 4 and this is game over.
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07-22-2011 , 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Telcontar
Zomg/Chrja/Milk wins this game for us 100% of the time.
Yes. This game is solved.

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Originally Posted by Telcontar
Chrja, as far as I am concerned you are getting lynched in the next 3 days, if you promise to be a good boy I'll be fine with not advocating your lynch until final 5.
This is my feeling also, he is by far the most villagery of the 3 uncleareds at this point in time.
I like the idea of the wolf team being zomg/milk and chrja surviving the game
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07-22-2011 , 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Silman
and fwiw I couldn't give a rats behind which order we lynch those three in, but we are *not* lynching anyone not in those three till those three are dead.
full stop.
.
.
.
this
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07-22-2011 , 06:27 AM
Okay did a quick re-read on the first 6 pages some of my thoughts.

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Originally Posted by XXsooted
herbie's attacking mr gat is wolfy. mr gat basically just said hi 60 posts in, to say that he expects mr gat to post more there is absurd.
This looks really good for herbie i doubt 3 wolfs discussing like this

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Originally Posted by Silman
MrGatito is the least unacceptable of these to me ...
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Originally Posted by MrGatito
I'm just waking up here. I'm taking care of my son right now but I'll do my best to catch up & post some reads.
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Originally Posted by Silman
I feel really uneasy about lynching duck now.
Maybe I'm taking 4donk's fakepeek with too much weight
but I'd rather lynch MrGatito if sunny's a no-go

MrGatito
The first post silman defend MrG, i actually think he is more likely to do this as a villager then as a co-wolf - furthermore the x-post of MrG entering the thread and silman voting him are way more likely to be v/w then w/w

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Originally Posted by MrGatito
I had to skim the last 150 posts or so to catch up so I donít feel great about these.

Bojtun villa lean.
Iíll give Silman a villa lean. I like the way heís explaining his thought process & pretty much agreed with everything he was saying.
TheDean is a villager.

I think it might be somewhat villagery of Herbie to come after me early. Based on previous comment, I think Herbie thinks I may be able to skate by as a wolf. So him pressuring me for not posting anything sort of makes sense.

Villa lean on XXS.
Sun is often afk on day 1 so my read on him is exactly rand & I donít want to lynch him.
I canít read Duck so wouldnít feel great about lynching him.
Perd posting pics/non-content is what Iíve seen him do as a villager but Iíve never seen him as a wolf.

Nobody has really stood out to me as being overtly wolfy or anything.
again i think this post looks good for silman, theres a huge difference in the way he describe xxs and silman


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Originally Posted by MrGatito
I don't really have a defense against getting votes here today except that I'm a villager & will participate more tomorrow.

Duck atleast had one villagery post so I prefer
Telco
this looks good for telc.

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Originally Posted by Telcontar
this is the quickest reads list I have ever had to give in my life I'd reckon.

a lot of these are page 1 reads cause thats what i read in good time.

villagers

youknowwho - he just is

bojtun - love that opening
thedean - love it also.
Silman ( purely on his post count. His last 2 wolf games, he had less than 40 posts total in a week. )

wolves

Donk
64



Gatito, I skimmed him and I'm not sure what's so wolfy about him. His reads were a little soft I guess, but not sure what to say.

Duckburg, too much to read right now.

would like donk or 64 wagons on the brief skim that I have had. If they aren't viable, I'll coin toss on whatever leading wagon is going at the time.
really don't like the soft defense from telc on MrG here.

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Originally Posted by MrGatito
duckburg
MrG moves of telc to duck, telc just lost the villager points from earlier.

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Originally Posted by MrGatito
Alright after re-reading, this pretty much sums up my thoughts/reads. Sorry this is going to be a long post but I figure its probably best this way since Iím going to be afk for awhile.

Villas:
Telco: Seer hunt cleared.

Bojtun: Villagery tone, & made a villagery case against me even if its wrong. Seems a lot more interested in actually solving the game/finding wolves this time compared with the slowgame. One of my strongest reads.

Silman: I like how heís explained his thought process in making reads especially in regards to his interaction with Ykw. And I found his reason of not wanting to lynch Duck because he might be peeked as villagery (post 326). If a wolf legitimately thought someone was seer with a peeked villa they would push even stronger to lynch the peeked player.

XXS: Had some villagery posts early in the day & it looked like he was legitimately trying to figure things out. Last game he was a wolf & just tried to cruise day 1 by focusing his posts on going after an easy mislynch. Would like to see more from him though.

Herbie: Iíll give him a slight villa lean since most of what heís said today & yesterday has made sense. And he seems to be trying to figure out an outline for how to win the game.

Neutral:
Perd: No idea what to make of him but I canít say heís playing any different than how Iíve seen him play as a villa in the past.

Mets: Donít know how to read him but feel like he hasnít been a big of a force this game as normal.

Chjra: Had one or two decent posts but he took off after putting a vote on Telco. It seemed like a little bit of a copout vote but I canít say I did any better yesterday.

Wolf lean:
Sixfour: Voted Duck w/o explanation. Hasnít really added a ton of reasoning for his reads which I donít like. But Iíd like to give him a chance because I misread him last game.

Donk: Didnít add any quality content & I donít like the fact that he made 3 different posts just to agree with what other ppl have said as if to get credit for those ideas (I'll quote these in a sec).

And I would guess thereís a wolf among:
Zomg
Sun
Milk
the way he gives his reads on herbie and silman are very much alike and very different to the way he describes xxs.

and i seriously doubt that there isn't at least 1 wolf among his last three wolfs.

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Originally Posted by Telcontar
suspicious is suspicious

wolfy is wolfy.

your list was suspicious
This is just for myself to note that i think telc and milk isn't very likely co wolfs by this interaction.


I got somethings to do now but i might have time to read some more pages later today.
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07-22-2011 , 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Telcontar
btw donk, great play!
well it was good to stay alive that long, it wasn't good to openly claim as he did, wolves probably kill him anyway as he was obvious (at least to me) but could at least have left doubt in wofl's minds
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07-22-2011 , 06:52 AM
Im pooping And then going back to sleep
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07-22-2011 , 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Silman
that's mostly directed at metsey.
we are not lynching telco over milk
no
bad
naughty.
Ill probably push you before milk
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