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07-21-2011 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ZomgHax
Perdition/Milk

yay?
Its a reasonable pair

I think its u sun tho donuts


Im probably right
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07-21-2011 , 07:52 AM
I'd like to see if crj drops his cover today before voting
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07-21-2011 , 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
Its a reasonable pair

I think its u sun tho donuts


Im probably right
You're wrong though, but it's ok, we can still be friends.
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07-21-2011 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
I haven't had the time to pay close attention to sun's posts yet but if I did I'd probably say that he's an obvious villager.

Sun, why do you think chrja is a wolf?
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
also there's one REALLY wolfy thing that perdition is doing, that i will discuss tomorrow if he's gracious enough to leave me alive.
Any chance that this is a perdition fake wolf peek or is he stating that he was intending to fake peek perdition last night should he have been left alive. cause ya know, just incase mets isn't really the fakepeek


the first quote is sun obvious villager from day 2, so that was just a thought. the second quote was from late yesterday
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07-21-2011 , 08:31 AM
Oogly
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07-21-2011 , 08:37 AM
Seriously, is that all we've discussed in the last 30 minutes while i was reading the epic villager victory of day 2.

"oogly"
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07-21-2011 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
Assuming for a minute that I'm right about those three reads, that would leave me looking at Perdition as a sort of POE wolf. It also would make a good deal of sense for him to be one given the way things have gone down here, and given the way he's made several attempts to seem like he's being helpful, which is something that I don't remember seeing from him in his village games. IIRC he also did not provide any over the top seer cover which seems to have become a hallmark of his village game recently, and is what I believe got him nightkilled on several occasions (hell I did it once myself)
You see, the thing about over the top seer cover, is that it doesn't work if you do it EVERY GAME.
Also I'm still of the opinion that policy lynching players who voted neither of the wolves is the surest way to out the wolves. But evidently other players know something I don't about this game because no one else sees the logic in it.
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07-21-2011 , 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Perdition
You see, the thing about over the top seer cover, is that it doesn't work if you do it EVERY GAME.
Also I'm still of the opinion that policy lynching players who voted neither of the wolves is the surest way to out the wolves. But evidently other players know something I don't about this game because no one else sees the logic in it.
See it's stuff like this

This isn't wolfy as a rule, and I want to encourage you to do stuff like this in general. But I haven't ever seen you attempt to justify yourself as a villager before, so it feels like you're doing this because you don't want to get lynched, which means you're a wolf

You see the dilemma I'm having here?
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07-21-2011 , 09:25 AM
Perdition, I want to lynch you because of 1. you're not clear and 2. Dean was pushing hard for you being a wolf and was full on going to explain why you were a wolf today. Killing him last night prevents that happening.

i will find it hard pressed not to vote you this evening unless something stellar occurs
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07-21-2011 , 09:31 AM
I'm basically going over my own reads because I've had such a busy week away from being able to properly play werewolf here that i don't rightly remember what I've called. well except my obvious ykw villa, gatito wolf, dean villa reads

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Originally Posted by Telcontar
this is the quickest reads list I have ever had to give in my life I'd reckon.

a lot of these are page 1 reads cause thats what i read in good time.

villagers

youknowwho - he just is

bojtun - love that opening
thedean - love it also.
Silman ( purely on his post count. His last 2 wolf games, he had less than 40 posts total in a week. )


wolves

Donk
64



Gatito, I skimmed him and I'm not sure what's so wolfy about him. His reads were a little soft I guess, but not sure what to say.

Duckburg, too much to read right now.

would like donk or 64 wagons on the brief skim that I have had. If they aren't viable, I'll coin toss on whatever leading wagon is going at the time.
I must admit, that was a quality list of villagers I had. Despite the contradiction in thedean's "potential peeks" and Silman's list of "peeks", I still think silman is a villager by volume if nothing else.



my next one

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Originally Posted by Telcontar
Something i was looking at last night, but didn't really get time to think about properly



i remember reading this last night and thinking, is mets trying to set-up a mis-lynch and then noticed that chrja spotted it too.



lean villa on chrja for this one.



I'm number 1 suspect now



About me. mrgatito was joint lead at this stage



My entrance wasn't villagery, but it was villagery enough of him to be prepared to give me a pass till day 3 or day 4, considering I made no more posts after that until late at night.

mets is a wolf, if mrgatito is a wolf with him.


Also mets vote on silman was lol yesterday. mets should know silman's posting habits aswell as anyone and when he's a wolf, he posts next to nothing. I'll eat my ham and cheese sandwich that I have in the fridge downstairs that i was saving for thursday if this is a silman wolf game.



I'm sad YKW was lynched, he was my one true lock villager from yesterday, but I'm sure I'll be able to get another lock by the end of the day for y'all. coming up next, donk / 64
damn you mets. why did you have to come up as a villager

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Originally Posted by Telcontar
I'm sad.

I think sun's a wolf
I also think mets is

I don't know who to vote for and I have to go in a few minutes.
Yes mets, I disguised that pretty well didnt I. Note how you didn't mention who i actually voted for on that day.

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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
Also I know Telco's SHC - I just wanted to point this out in case Sooted flips wolf because wolves don't say things like this about other wolves imo

Just because day 1 SHC's tend to be less clearing than certain other SHC's - though the fact that they killed YouKnowWho argues pretty strongly for a seer hunt - generally if a wolf team is going to FPS a nightkill they want a two for one which usually involves taking out a strong village leader, and I don't think YKW qualifies as that in this lineup

Ok so I now feel much better about clearing Telco pretty fully after going through all that in my head
yeah, if I didn't feel awesome about herbie before, I definitely feel awesome about him now.
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07-21-2011 , 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
See it's stuff like this

This isn't wolfy as a rule, and I want to encourage you to do stuff like this in general. But I haven't ever seen you attempt to justify yourself as a villager before, so it feels like you're doing this because you don't want to get lynched, which means you're a wolf

You see the dilemma I'm having here?
Damned if you do damned if you don't.

**** that
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07-21-2011 , 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Perdition
Damned if you do damned if you don't.

**** that
I realize it's not fair, that's why we're discussing it yo. The reason I have trouble is because the way I usually read people is by looking for them to do things differently than they normally do them as a villager. In a situation like yours where I often want to lynch you because of the things you normally do as a villager that makes it tough, because it means I'm going to want to lynch you every game.

The bright side is that I'm interested in encouraging this more pro-village line from you - so what made you decide to start doing some of these things that people have been asking you to do for a while in this game? Things like explaining why you've done things, explaining your reads a little, actually addressing people's concerns, etc
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07-21-2011 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
I realize it's not fair, that's why we're discussing it yo. The reason I have trouble is because the way I usually read people is by looking for them to do things differently than they normally do them as a villager. In a situation like yours where I often want to lynch you because of the things you normally do as a villager that makes it tough, because it means I'm going to want to lynch you every game.

The bright side is that I'm interested in encouraging this more pro-village line from you - so what made you decide to start doing some of these things that people have been asking you to do for a while in this game? Things like explaining why you've done things, explaining your reads a little, actually addressing people's concerns, etc
The premise of your question requires that I encourage the thought that I have been playing badly and ignoring criticism constantly. I've been NKed 5 and of my last 7 games and refuse to accept that line of reasoning. I've been playing just fine and usually let my actions speak for themselves. I don't think explaining the reasoning behind a move I made is a new element to my play and the questions you are asking seem less relevant to this game and more driven to induce non-wolfhunting related discussion.
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07-21-2011 , 10:19 AM
Ok Perdi

How would you describe the difference between your village game and your wolf game?

Is that a question that does not imply that you play badly and is relevent to this game iyo?
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07-21-2011 , 10:21 AM
Also I wasn't implying that you play badly, I was stating that in general I tend to want to lynch you for the way you normally play as a villager, and that I feel you're playing differently here and I want to lynch you for that too.
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07-21-2011 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
Ok Perdi

How would you describe the difference between your village game and your wolf game?

Is that a question that does not imply that you play badly and is relevent to this game iyo?
My last wolf game was the Stephen King Mishmash and I played badly. I didn't understand what my role required me to do and I was distant unconvincing. When next I play wolf I will play much differently. I'm not sure how I will play then. But traditionally my village game has been focused on prying open subtle inconsistencies and catching posts a villager would not make.
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07-21-2011 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Perdition
But traditionally my village game has been focused on prying open subtle inconsistencies and catching posts a villager would not make.
Ok

Have you seen any posts here that you feel like a villager would not make?

Also assuming I'm a villager for a minute tell me how I'm supposed to be able to tell that you're a villager here
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07-21-2011 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
Ok

Have you seen any posts here that you feel like a villager would not make?

Also assuming I'm a villager for a minute tell me how I'm supposed to be able to tell that you're a villager here
Wolf slips are rare and I usually post my thoughts about pseudoslips on the spot.
The same as you would anyone else. Ask yourself "Is Perdition good enough/bad enough to make these posts as a wolf?"


Spoiler:
Spoiler:
No more questions.
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07-21-2011 , 10:59 AM
Obvious pandering with the natalie portman clip imo
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07-21-2011 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
Obvious pandering with the natalie portman clip imo
Probably a wolf tell.
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07-21-2011 , 11:41 AM
source for that one?
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07-21-2011 , 11:42 AM
p.s. been playing HoN, and losing and now I'm all tilty.
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07-21-2011 , 11:42 AM
As of Post # 1295
CountPersonVote
 chrjaPerdition
 DonkDonkDonkDonk 
 HerbieGRD 
 metsandfinsfan 
1MilkReggae 
1Perdition 
1SilmanMilkReggae
 sixfourSilman
 Sun Tzu 
 Telcontar 
 Zomghax 

Please PM Corrections to Zayana




Night in 03:17
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07-21-2011 , 11:48 AM
My head hurts trying to read Perdi

I'm thinking I'd probably rather lynch Milk here today at this point

MilkReggae
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07-21-2011 , 11:49 AM
boring day is boring

telco what is your point, that you fakepeeked me wolf and thats why you are alive?
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