<headdesk>

You're a nerdfighter?

Here's a nice little Sun and others compilation that would now reflect on me

Interpret this how you want

wolf promoting clearing others light, keep that in mind

That would be so sick

Interpret this interaction how you will

This might be true

It probably is

beginning of Silman's rollercoaster read on Sun

Surely as wolf he might have included at least 1 maybe 2 other wolf candidates for deception (not sure if that is in his range or if that's how he plays)

Could have something to do why he was NK'd as a seer candidate

This should reveal a lot for those of you who have history with him

Seer hunt NK gone wrong? Could be some truth to that statement

Not sure how to interpret these yet

/spew

What does <headdesk> even mean?

Banging your head on the desk in frustration to my post???

Either way, I am leveling there so don't take too much from that post

that's exactly what it means

I thought you wanted more info?

I was going to assume that your read on sun wasn't going to change once I came in to sub and took his spot

lol wolves killing dean

If I'm seer sun/vyk is a villager

I'm going to go reread perdition/zomg/milk to see which one I like best as a wolf today. I'm probably going to oppose any wagon that doesn't come from that list

Ok I'm about 80% sure I know who we're going to lynch today, probably need about 20 more mins to be 100% sure

you're a villager, just that post is kinda gag-worthy

I mean it got the point across

What more do you want?

Sigh I thought it would be easier than that

Ok not sure yet, still need to look more

Perd and its not even close.

No way these two post comes from a villager.

Ok so after doing some extensive rereading here's what I've got

chrja is a villager - this continues to be totally and completely different from his wolf games that I've seen. I know he didn't vote either wolf, and I know people have him as wolfy, but there's SHC people I'd vote before him at this point. The confidence in his tone is something that I've never seen from him as a wolf even when we were wolves together and crushing the game, I don't think he's capable of it, and I don't think he's capable of seeming like he's intent on solving the game the way he does here if he's a wolf

Ok was going to do one post but instead I'm going to split it up so it doesn't become tl;dr

On to the next

MilkReggae is a wolf - I think his disappearing from the thread for random periods of time is something that's more IRL related than role related, but he has been markedly different this game than he was in the July 11th vanilla game in wolfy ways. In that game he was immensely confident, pushing his thoughts and reads, attacking, and most importantly dealing with things as they were happening. Lots of interaction designed to help him figure out the game. Compare that to here. A load of wishy washy. Going back and making a big list of reads that hardly says anything about anybody. A vote for Gatito followed almost immediately by a retraction of that vote, a soft defense that he did not push yet did not retract once it was almost completely debunked. The biggest thing is as he's about to leave notice the way he's asking if Zomg can be a wagon - like he's trying to see if people will do it without pushing it. Based on his play in the other game I feel confident in saying that if he was a villager here he'd be telling people to vote for Zomg and to switch away from Gatito, not asking if it's possible to make him a wagon.

Next one

ZomgHax is a villager - It's the little things with him. The way he interacted so casually with Dean yesterday ITT on a day where nothing was really going on is something that I think Hax would find difficult to do as a wolf. Usually when there's nothing happening and he's a wolf he tends to post as little as possible because he doesn't think he has to and he's afraid to look wolfy. I also said yesterday but still believe that as a wolf he doesn't do something ridiculous like trying to CFD Dean with 10 minutes to night and nobody around then immediately switch back to Gatito. If he was a wolf he could have voted for me to make it 5-4 instead of 6-3 or he could have just stayed on Gatito to get solid credit for bussing. The fact that the attempt a CFD/switch back to Gatito combo looks so bad at first blush makes it almost 100% that ZOMG does not do this as a wolf in that spot because he would know EXACTLY how bad it would look the next day when Gatito gets lynched. He'd basically be putting himself in a situation where he played a key role in getting a wolf lynched and still got wolf points for it. He's too worried about how he looks when he's a wolf to do that imo

Herbie being a villager is making me lazy.

Nice work dean

silman lynch all liars

Also going back to MilkReggae for a second - Sooted was already pushing me for lynch at the time he was there in thread, and we now know sooted was a wolf. Dean was too, but that was it. Gatito had somewhere in the neighborhood of 5/6 committed votes at that time. If he's a wolf and votes me there it would potentially create a situation where 3/4 of the wolf team would be voting for me (if Gatito voted me for self preservation) and yet Gatito could still very well get lynched. He also argued earlier in the day that Gatito seemed villagery to him so as a wolf he's going to find it very hard to bus there because he'd think it would look odd. So what choice does he have? He would have to try to either find or start a 3rd wagon that wasn't me or Gatito - ergo his weird "Any chance of a Zomg wagon?" posts right before he left for the day

I lol'd

Assuming for a minute that I'm right about those three reads, that would leave me looking at Perdition as a sort of POE wolf. It also would make a good deal of sense for him to be one given the way things have gone down here, and given the way he's made several attempts to seem like he's being helpful, which is something that I don't remember seeing from him in his village games. IIRC he also did not provide any over the top seer cover which seems to have become a hallmark of his village game recently, and is what I believe got him nightkilled on several occasions (hell I did it once myself)

either you're a wolf, or you've just made the wolves job one notch easier by eliminating a potential seer candidate, EXCELLENT work

milky

One thing I would like to address a little bit is that, depending on what the actual seer ends up giving us, we may end up in a situation where we need to reevaluate people who are SHC. If this happens there are a couple of things that should be taken into account.

Depending on who is on the wolf team it's entirely possible that they might believe that Dean would flip a wolf peek trying to live one more day and lock the game.

I still don't believe the n1 kill was FPS, but if you're going to see a true FPS nightkill (one that has basically no chance of killing a seer but might serve to clear one of your teammates) then n1 is generally the time that it happens. Telco is also a good player to "clear" in this manner because I don't think of him as being a very likely n0 or n1 peek for most actual seers, and he's also not the kind of person you'd necessarily expect to get nightkilled early a lot, but he's a good enough wolf that he'd potentially be able to pull off a week and a half of being a "seer hunt cleared villager" without being so obviously wolfy that he'd have to be lynched.

Honestly if Telco wasn't SHC I think I'd lynch him today. If it comes down to looking at SHC people I'd definitely look at him first.

Second on that list would be sixfour btw - he's someone who might think Dean would flip a peek, and he's the only one of the rest of the SHC people that I don't think has been villagery regardless of whether they were SHC or not