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07-18-2011 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
I'm thinking about it, can't come up with anything.

But I also think you're overreacting to the pressure I'm putting on you. I will likely end up voting for Duck or Perd today.
If you're actually a villager I'll explain it after the game, although I'm still having trouble believing that you don't know why
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07-18-2011 , 11:55 AM
I mean is it something beyond the scope of I likely can't read you well enough to risk mislynching you day 1 since you're so valuable as a villager?

Because I do subscribe to that theory, and for that I likely won't be lynching you today. Other than that, not really sure what's there.
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07-18-2011 , 11:59 AM
oh ffs it's started raining again

dean, silman is not a wolf
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07-18-2011 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
I mean is it something beyond the scope of I likely can't read you well enough to risk mislynching you day 1 since you're so valuable as a villager?

Because I do subscribe to that theory, and for that I likely won't be lynching you today. Other than that, not really sure what's there.
No this isn't what I meant, I'll give you the real brief explanation though

First off, I'm almost certainly not getting lynched day 1, regardless of my role.

Secondly, as a villager I've been dying n1 > 50% of the time since I started playing again, which is really ridiculous but w/e. If wolves see villagers giving me pressure and thinking I'm a wolf it significantly reduces the odds of me getting nightkilled early, especially if I'm not on the right track wrt the game.

Now if I'm a wolf I'm obviously not getting nightkilled, but by pressuring me early you've basically given me an excuse for being alive later than I otherwise should be allowed to be

Because of all this - if you think I'm really a wolf the correct thing to do is ignore me and hope the wolves kill me, then if they don't try to wagon me on a day when I actually have a chance of getting lynched. The only quality reason to push me on day 1 if you're a villager is if you actually think I'm a villager and want to discourage the wolves from killing me, but I'm pretty sure that's not what you're doing here
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07-18-2011 , 12:14 PM
As an addendum to the previous post if I'm a wolf putting early pressure on me also gives me a great excuse to make the thread all about me - which is something I almost always strive to do as a wolf because I know I'm not usually living until endgame and it lets my teammates hide
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07-18-2011 , 12:18 PM
villager checking in
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07-18-2011 , 12:19 PM
chrja - have I ever seen you as a villager?

I don't think I have, but maybe I'm just not remembering it
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07-18-2011 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
chrja - have I ever seen you as a villager?

I don't think I have, but maybe I'm just not remembering it
TBH i dont really remember i have been really unlucky in rands lately so you might not.
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07-18-2011 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
oh ffs it's started raining again

dean, silman is not a wolf
OK I'll take your word for it.

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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
No this isn't what I meant, I'll give you the real brief explanation though

First off, I'm almost certainly not getting lynched day 1, regardless of my role.

Secondly, as a villager I've been dying n1 > 50% of the time since I started playing again, which is really ridiculous but w/e. If wolves see villagers giving me pressure and thinking I'm a wolf it significantly reduces the odds of me getting nightkilled early, especially if I'm not on the right track wrt the game.

Now if I'm a wolf I'm obviously not getting nightkilled, but by pressuring me early you've basically given me an excuse for being alive later than I otherwise should be allowed to be

Because of all this - if you think I'm really a wolf the correct thing to do is ignore me and hope the wolves kill me, then if they don't try to wagon me on a day when I actually have a chance of getting lynched. The only quality reason to push me on day 1 if you're a villager is if you actually think I'm a villager and want to discourage the wolves from killing me, but I'm pretty sure that's not what you're doing here
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
As an addendum to the previous post if I'm a wolf putting early pressure on me also gives me a great excuse to make the thread all about me - which is something I almost always strive to do as a wolf because I know I'm not usually living until endgame and it lets my teammates hide
I don't agree with either of these, as I really don't see what's so important about you drawing the n1 kill. If you're a villager, I'll likely figure it out at some point.

s00ted's pushing you just as hard, have you any thoughts on him?
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07-18-2011 , 12:26 PM
trying to catch up, what are the experience level of bojtun
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07-18-2011 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Telcontar
and now i gotta go do errands, but I'll be back sporadically during the day. Monday is my day when I can be least active but I'll be good afterwards
Telc could you referrer me to a villager game where you make excuses for not being around, i remember you doing it as a wolf but i dont think i ever saw you do it as a villager.
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07-18-2011 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
I don't agree with either of these, as I really don't see what's so important about you drawing the n1 kill. If you're a villager, I'll likely figure it out at some point.

s00ted's pushing you just as hard, have you any thoughts on him?
Meh I feel like you're kinda missing my point. My point is that pressuring me really early makes it far more likely that I eventually get mislynched when I'm a villager and serves basically no purpose when I'm a wolf. The only reason this is true is because of how often I draw the n1 kill. If wolves stop killing me so often n1 then it will stop being true, but until they do I promise it's all true

Gun to my head I'd say Sooted is a villager, but I don't feel terribly confident in the read
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07-18-2011 , 12:31 PM
lets not lynch duckburg today

cos i fakepeeked him villager
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07-18-2011 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
I'd Lynch telco day 3 or 4 if he's alve
Im pretty sure i remember you saying this exact thing about a co-wolf in a game. trying to remember which one.
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07-18-2011 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
Meh I feel like you're kinda missing my point. My point is that pressuring me really early makes it far more likely that I eventually get mislynched when I'm a villager and serves basically no purpose when I'm a wolf. The only reason this is true is because of how often I draw the n1 kill. If wolves stop killing me so often n1 then it will stop being true, but until they do I promise it's all true

Gun to my head I'd say Sooted is a villager, but I don't feel terribly confident in the read
lets d2 rule herbie from now on

if he survives a night, he's a wolf

(mean this joke in the most complementary way)
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07-18-2011 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
yeah.

i thought he was pretty villagery early because it was the popular thing to think, but it's kinda weird how he suddenly flipped duck from villa lean to top wolf. not something i wanna string him up over, but def noteworthy.

anyway glad to be v/v again sooted, it's been too long.
cool man ya if I'm right about some of my reads you're villa so I'll just assume you're villa for funsies

ya actually I think I misread silman pretty hardcore the first time i played with him so probly best not to try to soul-read single posts of his. He was obv villagery early as everyone has said
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07-18-2011 , 12:38 PM
ducky
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07-18-2011 , 12:41 PM
well we're either lynching mets's fakepeek or donk's fakepeek today, unless people want to lynch a random UTR like telc.

perdition for the counterwagon, i'll switch to duck if i feel like it.
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07-18-2011 , 12:42 PM
im all caught up.

dont like the duck wagon, i believe he is more likely making his didn't leave a peek post as a villager.

Lynching herbie d1 seems stupid. Dean/xxs how sure are you?
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07-18-2011 , 12:44 PM
I think chrja's a villager
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07-18-2011 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
well we're either lynching mets's fakepeek or donk's fakepeek today, unless people want to lynch a random UTR like telc.

perdition for the counterwagon, i'll switch to duck if i feel like it.

is it that easy to soulread gifs and imgs?
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07-18-2011 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
well we're either lynching mets's fakepeek or donk's fakepeek today, unless people want to lynch a random UTR like telc.

perdition for the counterwagon, i'll switch to duck if i feel like it.
Hint: we don't.
I hate lynching people's fakepeeks.

There really don't seem to be any particularly good lynches today.

Hey chrja, if you're wolf can you spam lots so that I can tell?
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07-18-2011 , 12:47 PM
telcontar
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07-18-2011 , 12:47 PM
unvote for now
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07-18-2011 , 12:47 PM
looking forward to herbie's 20k poast
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