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07-14-2012 , 12:45 AM
tboblp make him the lead
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07-14-2012 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
so i didn't get to lunch yet, nor did i get to make my list yet... but lets go in a new direction. out with the stale in with the new..

tbob gives me wolfy vibes.. his posts content is villagery but every time i read them i keep thinking "this dude is a wolf".. i said this yesterday and i just cant shake it...
does a wolf peek really get more clear then this?
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07-14-2012 , 12:46 AM
The reason I'm voting hardcore is that he just seems to not really catch my attention at all this game, and that seems unusual.

It could be that I haven't been super focused and a lot of other stuff has been going on during the game, so maybe it's me, but I think if he were to be randed noob wolf some pressure about now would be pretty effective, and if he's not he should clear himself
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07-14-2012 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
so i didn't get to lunch yet, nor did i get to make my list yet... but lets go in a new direction. out with the stale in with the new..

tbob gives me wolfy vibes.. his posts content is villagery but every time i read them i keep thinking "this dude is a wolf".. i said this yesterday and i just cant shake it...
red though. and vix is clearly d1

meh I mean I don't hate it. if he dies it's whatever. I hope he's a wolf :P

I suppose mechanically it makes sense given that I didn't die. Maybe I should be weighting that fact more highly really

hrm hmm hnn meeeeh

tbob

fine, i'm mostly doing that since day is random and I'd rather not accidentally lynch hardcore before he has a chance to post
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07-14-2012 , 12:48 AM
i dont trust u well named

people thought VR could be a wolf peek of vixi

so i dont want to give his wagon that much credit

why didnt u vote donks counterwagon day 1?
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07-14-2012 , 12:48 AM
also lol fastest turnaround evar
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07-14-2012 , 12:49 AM
You really should trust me. Read VR's posts to me and tell me she posted them to a wolf

but you never trust me. I am happy anyway since my reads aren't AIDS like last couple games
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07-14-2012 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
You really should trust me. Read VR's posts to me and tell me she posted them to a wolf

but you never trust me. I am happy anyway since my reads aren't AIDS like last couple games
ok fine

ur a villa
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07-14-2012 , 12:50 AM
tboblp/anarchist wolves
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07-14-2012 , 12:50 AM
iirc on day one I just ended up being AFK at goofy times, and obv the whole idea of voting counter-wagons is goofy in this game. We don't know when night is, it's not like it would have been obvious when I should move to the counter wagon

I was voting VR afaik, and imo I called VR a wolf in a way that I pretty much don't do for bussing. I don't bus with such vague tone-related stuff. It was a real read, and a good one as it turned out
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07-14-2012 , 12:52 AM
tbob could be a wolf peek and it really seems like I should get NK'd there a ton after the way VR spewed me if my peeks were right

I guess that really is enough to lynch tbob

but I mean I think it should be obvious why I hesitate, I thought he was villagery enough to fake peek
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07-14-2012 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
tbob could be a wolf peek and it really seems like I should get NK'd there a ton after the way VR spewed me if my peeks were right

I guess that really is enough to lynch tbob

but I mean I think it should be obvious why I hesitate, I thought he was villagery enough to fake peek
yeah i peeked tbob villa day 1

oops. time to forget that now

anarchist has been using his seer cover as a weapon

it is time he face the music
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07-14-2012 , 12:55 AM
i get a bunch of villa points for killing a wolf right?
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07-14-2012 , 12:55 AM
just lynch everyone who was voting me d1 seems to be a good strat

Gad
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07-14-2012 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by KruZe
i get a bunch of villa points for killing a wolf right?
idk
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07-14-2012 , 12:57 AM
anarchist was seer and went for the "i'm too obvious to be seer" thing in the last game I played

although that data point seems useless since I imagine he might decide to go for the repeat both as a villager and as a wolf

without the data point I'd probably heavily weight it towards wolf, but I think he has some villagery posts. I have very poor results trying to tone read annie though
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07-14-2012 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
I am awake! I had strange dreams of Final Fantasy characters and kitties dressed in little outfits combined with hair products.Then I awaken to a world where the sun apparently has a mind of its own. Damn.



Gadarene
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
I voted for you because you are at the top of the player list and I don't know that you are a villager.
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
I'm gonna go read WW court and the PUB and be back later
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
Dunno if this is the most pro-villa plan of action tbh

What if it's night later?
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
Well we have at least 4 hours anyway.

Also, I am going to seriously sacrifice something to the gods of rand() trying to avoid a 100 hour day for the "weekend". That's almost 4 days, may the Lord Sun have mercy on our souls.
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finger of suspicion
to well named

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Yikes I didn't realize thread opened at 6 am.

well named
gonna reread now

gadarene looks bad here
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07-14-2012 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
Also, if I'm seer, it's untrue that I didn't not not not not not not not not not not not not not not peek TBobLP villa.
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Anarchist

rather lynch someone who's around and not contributing than someone who's around and blathering about their meta
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
If you keep pwning villages, eventually they will just decide to lynch you no matter what. I would be happy to give you lessons on how to suck more as a wolf.
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
On the other hand, if I'm seer, there's no way in the world that I never didn't not not not not not not not not not not peek derm villa.
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
At this point though, it looks like we're lynching Hardcore UFO if night suddenly falls. That can't be good. He hasn't posted.
dont think she says this about a wolf
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07-14-2012 , 01:00 AM
agree it's at least kind of skepticalface.jpg there
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07-14-2012 , 01:00 AM
well, i'm off to bed. hope night doesn't come until morning :P

although I'm going to be really busy tomorrow
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07-14-2012 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
If you keep pwning villages, eventually they will just decide to lynch you no matter what. I would be happy to give you lessons on how to suck more as a wolf.
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
I've decided that I'm pretty much always going to be in favor of a well named lynch, if the alternative is having to sit helplessly on the sidelines screaming "he's a wolf!" while the remaining villagers let themselves get thoroughly manipulated by him AGAIN.

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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
I am conflicted. On the one hand, I understand Gad's frustration with Anarchist blithely assuming there will be a "later."

On the other hand, Anarchist's happy little star avatar makes me smile. Plus it makes me read his posts in "happy little star" voice, which is fun.

And I don't want to lynch derm, I haven't played with him in literal years.
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Hi derm.
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I have to do some work now. I'm happy with my vote. well named is also a fine wagon.
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Originally Posted by well named
so a long time ago elliot played a wolf game against me where he did nothing but push me all game and tunnel me and I cleared him for it because it was what he did as a villager

then last game willi tunneled me and I cleared him for it (among other things) because he's done it a lot as a villager

I have trouble distinguishing between villagers trying to lynch me and wolves doing so, but given the recent meta where it's so easy to say things like gad's "I'm never going to be opposed to lynching well named" or "Wn is a fine wagon" which at this point is basically entirely unjustified

at the very least, if villagers do it it provides easy cover for wolves to push a mislynch. I'm going to assume in this game that it's pretty suspicious to say things like "WN is a fine wagon" based solely on meta because it's such a viable wolf strategy right now

And I'm going to request that if you are a villager you need to consider that angle and be willing to actually try to read me, not just assume I'm always an OK lynch. A mislynch is a mislynch, we only get so many. For better or worse the game is to actually make reads, so do me a favor and at least try to read me :P
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
BUT IT WOULD BE SO EASY TO LYNCH YOU AND FEEL OKAY ABOUT MY DECISION BECAUSE YOU ARE A GOOD WOLF PLUS THERE IS THE FINGER OF SUSPICION THING.

Point taken, though. I will attempt to find a better vote if night doesn't fall in the next 20 minutes. You might try sounding a little less reasonable though. I've spent much too much time listening to you sound reasonable as a wolf.
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
well named, I'm not trying to push you, and I have no reason to think you're >rand to be wolf. I'd like to develop my read of you further before I can lean one way or the other.

That being said, in a vacuum, I think there are much worse lynches than you, just because of your capacity to soulcrush village teams by yourself. I can't say that about anyone else in this game.

The nature of this game means that night could fall in twenty minutes -- or an hour and twenty minutes -- with most of the roster barely having contributed. That means we need to make some snap, heuristic-based judgments about +EV wagons. It's my opinion that, in a vacuum, you would be a +EV wagon.

Yes, the game is to actually make reads. But right now, there's pretty thin gruel on the ground.* And when night falls, whoever has the most votes is going to be lynched.

It's not my intent to tunnel you. I'm not even voting you.

*MIXED METAPHORS YESSSSS
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how's that working out for you so far?

thoughts on hardcore's reaction to your vote?
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there ya go

i've only ever been mislynched once in my POG career

i'm confidently expecting this game to be number two
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
Looks like we are missing

Monkey Banana
Kruze
TBob
vixticator
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
If people (who have the capability, and thus are not me) can keep running vote counts, I have a feeling that's going to be pretty crucial
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That would definitely be pro-wolf. Unless we get super unlucky and hit the seer, village is always better off to take our kill than not take it. It would be like being white and ceding our first move to black.
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If I was a wolf I would post sporadically this early

Chances of a villager getting lynched on d1 here are super-high
what i am seeing right now looks really bad for gadarene

him and VR are in the thread together for awhile and they talk some but they never seem to be trying to figure out each others roles.

while gadarene is questioning anarchist and casting suspicion on well named for no reason(like VR)

well named is very likely villager

gad looks wolfy
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07-14-2012 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TBobLP
do not like anything about anarchists posts so far...borderline trolling if you ask me. i dont know if it is indicative of a wolf, but to say you are popping in and then going to read other threads in a game where day could end at any time, putting a second vote on a horrible wagon and then pretty much giving one word answers to direct questions is pretty bad.

I'm almost convinced Gad is a villager here, and like his thoughts on wagonning early in this game. I have only played with well named once i believe, but surely if he is so good at pwning as a wolf he must be a good villager as well. so why not wait a day or two with that wagon?
i sort of assume that is quite a likely tbob wolf peek. so ill read him for sopew too

anarchist villager points

gad wolf
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07-14-2012 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO
Oh right I should start posting fakepeeks as well.

I peeked VR villager.
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Villa lean for Slighted's posts after he stuffed his face with hamburgers.

Anarchist, as I realise now, is pretty damn hard to read. He is howling, but he is always howling.
haha hardcore is great

and villa points for him peeking wolf villa.
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07-14-2012 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
bad vote

voraciousreader
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
VR is probably a wolf so lynching her wouldn't be bad

lynching derm also isn't horrible though
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Originally Posted by TBobLP
both of them need to get back in thread but hopefully there is plenty of time for that
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
VR is probably a wolf because she voted for well named? Show your work.



meh
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
hey VR,

i called you probably a wolf to see what you'd respond to me.

so, are you a wolf?
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
Fail. Anarchist

You wanna fight?



It has happened. Generally only when I'm actually a wolf though. I'm not sure I've ever been MISlynched day 1.
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There were something like 50 posts at the time. There's not much difference there between "no info" and "50 posts".
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you are correct, but he acknowledged that making a vote with no info is bad and then left the vote. if he felt strongly at that point he had made a bad vote, he easily couldve unvoted
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VR why did you vote well named before as opposed to someone else
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
Because he was a wagon. Because his ho hum me I'm a villager did not come off as sincere. Because I like him. Because there were only a few people in the thread at the time and I didn't like my Gad vote. Because when I start to think well named has a good point I immediately wonder if he is manipulating me.
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ok VR you can be a villager too

derm
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
Yay I am in the club!

Not ready to let you into it yet.
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Votes as of post 100
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VotesLynchVoters
2 Derm Donkdonkdonkdonk (6), well named (8)
1 Anarchist Gadarene (25)
1 Gadarene Anarchist (19)
1 hardcoreUFO Derm (5)
1 vixticator Varianceminefield (1)
1 well named VoraciousReader (14)
6 not voting vixticator (0), hardcoreUFO (4), Kruze (0), Monkey Banana (0), Slighted (9), TBobLP (5)
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Originally Posted by KruZe
VR since you just reread the thread can you give me cliffs on everything?
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
So night could fall as late as 8 am the day after tomorrow.

Suddenly Anarchist's lack of urgency makes a lot more sense.
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
Yeah, I hadn't quite thought through the day lengths issue at the beginning of the day

Still very important to make votes and update them regularly, however.
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
And given that, I'm gonna bow out for a while and try to get some work done.
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Originally Posted by TBobLP
i remember now why i hate tomato based soups...but im sick and my girlfriend forced me to choke it down

i dont really see anything in slighteds posting that would make him anybody's most likely wolf, and derm hasnt really done anything to make me change my opinion as of yet.

on tone i felt VRs posts have been pretty good but i dont like the pushing of slighted and the defense of derm. id actually like to hear why you are wanting people to get off derm in your posts, but arent really that vocal about it being that he is a leading wagon. if you really felt strong about it, id think youd be making a bigger case. i have seen wolves say things like "xxx votes are bad" so they can go back and say "told ya so" when they flip villa, but never really tried to persuade anyone off the wagon while they were still alive.
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Originally Posted by well named
I would say slighted is fairly likely to be a villager.

I don't think derm's posts are really all that villager since I voted him. They aren't terrible wolfy either, my read is just sort of still sitting there

I think VR may actually be a pretty solid vote here
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
KruZe is a good vote until/unless I see some substance from him

EVERYONE SHOULD TRY TO VOTE AGAIN (OR EVEN JUST REITERATE YOUR PRIOR VOTE) NEAR THE TOP OF EVERY HOUR, PLEASE

ya gad doesnt care to figure out VRs role

he is just pushing people for mislynches

im gonna lock it in

tboblp/gadarene wolves

anarchist is spewed clear from vr i believe

so is well named

guessid need to read further to see about monkey. kruze looks good from what ive seen
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07-14-2012 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
gonna attempt to compile some sort of list soon..

R.I.P.
Slighted "soon.." Seerpants
D1-N2 Never Forget
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