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06-29-2017 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by NotGonnaLie
Beating your chest and saying stuff like "I'm so villagery you'll never lynch me" is something people can do as either alignment, it's just blowing smoke. Whether its alignment indicative is up to personal meta imo and always just a lean since its dead simple to fake.

You have more experience with Chris, is he the type of person that spits fire when hes about to get mislynched? Does he rollover? Does it even matter how hard he'll defend himself if the numbers are there for a lynch?
I don't think I've payed close enough attention to have the answers to the last questions as nothing is piquing my meta memories.
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06-29-2017 , 03:16 PM
As for his play more generally, no I don't get villagery vibes.

It feels different from last game. I remember following the mario thread and thinking his content showed good analysis. This game it seems like he's hardly reading things.

His vote on Myro also struck me as weird which you brought up. If people started unvoting wolves would want that lynch to go through. At the very least I don't understand the thought process that makes you definitely want to vote after a claim.

Aside from that though I can't think of things that he's done that furthered the wolf agenda. The village has been pretty misguided so maybe the wolves haven't had to be active, but are there other things you can point to that show wolfy intent?
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06-29-2017 , 03:33 PM
What's the plan if Chris flips villa and I die in the night?
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06-29-2017 , 03:41 PM
Here's the posts that I called fluffy and intended to make it seem like Donnie was being game solvey:
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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
Xander isn't gonna be around, jm3 is taking a step back, NL and ChrisV are aussies and not around midday, irtm is dead, robik is dead, and myro is dead, sun and killer aren't much volume.

So it's me talking to NGL all day lolol
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06-29-2017 , 03:43 PM
Donnie: I think there is a wolf within NL and Sun

what do you think of these guys this game?
which one of these 2 would you lynch if you were forced to lynch one of them?
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06-29-2017 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
Here's the posts that I called fluffy and intended to make it seem like Donnie was being game solvey:
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Ok, I think I misunderstood when you were saying I was posting fluff and trying to look game solvey, bc the above posts are not an attempt at game solving at all and you're right are straight fluff nonsense.

There wasn't anything else going on and I had already done a fair amount of rereading and posting my thoughts.

Which was what I thought you meant, that my MQ/analysis posts were nothing but fluff, which were not at all and were 100% me trying to explain my thought process.
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06-29-2017 , 03:50 PM
I don't agree with a lot of things you say (especially the stuff about me) but I wouldn't call that stuff fluff/fake.

What do you think about NL & Sun?
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06-29-2017 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by NotGonnaLie
As for his play more generally, no I don't get villagery vibes.

It feels different from last game. I remember following the mario thread and thinking his content showed good analysis. This game it seems like he's hardly reading things.

His vote on Myro also struck me as weird which you brought up. If people started unvoting wolves would want that lynch to go through. At the very least I don't understand the thought process that makes you definitely want to vote after a claim.

Aside from that though I can't think of things that he's done that furthered the wolf agenda. The village has been pretty misguided so maybe the wolves haven't had to be active, but are there other things you can point to that show wolfy intent?
Well the major thing for me is the vast difference in play between last game and this game. He keeps saying he shows more WIM as a wolf bc he doesn't want to let down the wolfbros. But last game he was a villa, and was definitely posting analysis, thought process, and cogent arguments against people. That's been absent for the most part this game.

I do think there may be something there to him voting UFO after the claim post, but it did look like UFO was already going so maybe Chris' vote was superfluous.

The being said, there was talk of CFD's and others switching their vote to me, so maybe it was to ensure UFO goes. But still think the lack of villageryness this game vs last is the most concerning.
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06-29-2017 , 04:00 PM
Ok good to know we're reading it somewhat similarly, but thats why I feel bad about the lynch. I can construct excuses for why his style is different and less 'in tune' (more confused about game state, tired for out of game things).

I'd feel more comfortable if there was something people can point to and say here is something Chris did this game that helped make it more likely wolves would win.
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06-29-2017 , 04:01 PM
Votes from post 1435 to post 1559
Night in 3:59:57

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2 ChrisV Donat3llo (46), killer_kill (2)
1 Sun Tzu No Lynches (22)
1 Donat3llo xander biscuits (14)
3 not voting ChrisV (13), NotGonnaLie (21), Sun Tzu (0)
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06-29-2017 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
What's the plan if Chris flips villa and I die in the night?
If that happens then I'm pretty much fkced.

But it's leave Sun, NGL, Killer, and NL

That leaves killer/NL or Sun/NL. Which kind of sucks bc I think killer has had a few decent posts, and Sun hasn't done anything explicitly wolfy/outside his villa range.

The only thing that pings me about Sun the more I think about it was the game where he CFD'd you at the EoD. He came in blazing with a reasonable assertion that you were wolf. We lynched Sun the next day bc of it and he put up a fight, kind of shyt on the village a little for being dumb enough to not re-evaluate his play after the CFD. He told me I was frustrating to play with bc I have bad confirmation bias, etc etc.

You, Sun, and I all ended up being villas.

That passion hasn't been seen in this game from Sun, but I haven't necessarily seen something like that from him since either, so I'm kind of hung there.
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06-29-2017 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NotGonnaLie
Ok good to know we're reading it somewhat similarly, but thats why I feel bad about the lynch. I can construct excuses for why his style is different and less 'in tune' (more confused about game state, tired for out of game things).

I'd feel more comfortable if there was something people can point to and say here is something Chris did this game that helped make it more likely wolves would win.
How about him helping lynch the seer?

I mean, bunch of other people did too, but that didn't help the village and definitely helped the wolves.
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06-29-2017 , 04:04 PM
you think NL could likely be a wolf?
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06-29-2017 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
I don't agree with a lot of things you say (especially the stuff about me) but I wouldn't call that stuff fluff/fake.

What do you think about NL & Sun?
NL 100% has this game in his wolf range, despite me liking some of the interactions we have had. I do think they've demonstrated some attempts to solve the game, but admitted they were a bit lost themselves. I have enough respect for NL's wolf game that I could prob see their villa flip and still not quite believe it.

Sun has an organic tone and flow to his (few) posts. I know killer mentioned anyone can go back and quote posts, but the way he did it (and especially the order) show he was reading/catching up through the day as it went. Which to me suggests he was actually trying to read the thread, instead of looking for things to naturally enter with.

Not sure if that is a good or worthwhile read though
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06-29-2017 , 04:09 PM
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you think NL could likely be a wolf?
I think it's def possible NL could be a wolf

But less than ChrisV at the moment.
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06-29-2017 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
How about him helping lynch the seer?

I mean, bunch of other people did too, but that didn't help the village and definitely helped the wolves.
His last second vote ended there, but during the horse trading he seemed against the lynch. I still don't know how to evaluate the last second vote, but I'd put more weight on resisting the myro lynch in the final hour.

I had a bigger impact on getting the seer lynched than anyone else probably.
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06-29-2017 , 04:15 PM
xander do you have a case on sun tzu being a wolf?
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06-29-2017 , 04:22 PM
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xander do you have a case on sun tzu being a wolf?
I know that I'm not,

I don't think that you, killer or chris are based on toan

that leaves donnie, sun and NL

I'm perhaps tunneling donnie right now, but whatevs and Sun makes ever so slightly more sense to pair with donnie than NL does. Because donnie mentioned everyone D1&2 with the exception of Sun (if he did mention him, then it wasn't as much as the rest of them)
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06-29-2017 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Let it be noted that I don't really want to kill either of these wagons and I don't really know which way I'm going to vote
Says he isn't comfortable. To be clear, he says he isn't comfortable between a wolf wagon and a seer wagon.

As a wolf he wouldn't be comfortable sending his bro to die, and he woudln't be comfortable being on a wagon that ships the seer to the fire for the future implications.

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Donatello
Then he votes a villager instead of the seer or the wolf wagon. (doesn't mean anything to you obvi, but to me it's him trying to lynch a villa and ignoring the trouble spots in lynching the seer as a wolf or lynching his bro as a wolf)

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Myro
Then he lands on the seer, tbf it was at 8:00pm

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we have to lynch bolder than this tomorrow, this was ****ing limp
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lol. I didn't do any work during the night because after Myro flipped seer, I remembered with a lurching feeling that post where he had "ChrisV town" and was like "should have seen that coming". Not only did I think I was lock clear, I thought I was super likely to be the NK.
Says here that he had an inkling myro could be the seer, but also admits that he forgot. So he says he forgot myro cleared him, and he missed myro's seer post. So why does he land his vote on myro when it seems like he wasn't paying much attention to what myro was actually doing?

One theory is forgetfulness, lord knows short term memory is a *****. Another is they're excuses for lynching the seer.
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06-29-2017 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
I know that I'm not,

I don't think that you, killer or chris are based on toan

that leaves donnie, sun and NL

I'm perhaps tunneling donnie right now, but whatevs and Sun makes ever so slightly more sense to pair with donnie than NL does. Because donnie mentioned everyone D1&2 with the exception of Sun (if he did mention him, then it wasn't as much as the rest of them)
Yeah, I guess that could look bad for me if Sun were to flip wolf. But he has been flying under my wolf radar the entire game.
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06-29-2017 , 04:26 PM
That really only leaves NL and Sun from Xander's perspective bc I know I'm not a wolf.
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06-29-2017 , 04:32 PM
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That really only leaves NL and Sun from Xander's perspective bc I know I'm not a wolf.
I could be wrong

but you 3 are top of the POE for me

fwiw I'm slightly more inclined to believe that Chris is a wolf than NGL or killer
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06-29-2017 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
I could be wrong

but you 3 are top of the POE for me

fwiw I'm slightly more inclined to believe that Chris is a wolf than NGL or killer
Well fkc

This all kind of seems like a Venn diagram and the only current overlap is NL for pretty much everyone but NL. Which sucks bc I feel more strongly about Chris than NL.
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06-29-2017 , 04:48 PM
let's go for NL and see if there's any resistance?
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06-29-2017 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
I could be wrong

but you 3 are top of the POE for me

fwiw I'm slightly more inclined to believe that Chris is a wolf than NGL or killer
I just realized NL is voting Sun. Does that mean anything to you?
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