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05-20-2014 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by LeonardoDicaprio
forgot to mention that ianaww seems to have really stepped his game up in both roles
U are a scary wolf. As villager u get own early based on good reads.
I think IANAWW has always been a good player in both roles, he is smart and doesn't have to post a ton
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05-20-2014 , 12:15 PM
Cliffs on how DividedSky cleared himself? I railed a little and didn't guess correctly on very many wolves but had him wolf early d1.
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05-20-2014 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ashington
Cliffs on how DividedSky cleared himself? I railed a little and didn't guess correctly on very many wolves but had him wolf early d1.
Cliffs

He didn't
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05-20-2014 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ashington
Cliffs on how DividedSky cleared himself? I railed a little and didn't guess correctly on very many wolves but had him wolf early d1.
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05-20-2014 , 12:18 PM
Leo saved him cause he's in love with him
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05-20-2014 , 12:20 PM
well

pretty much
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05-20-2014 , 12:25 PM
Leo doesn't white knight gambit (and give me a wolf lean for pushing gambit d1) and the villa wins

that is a lock

I take some blame, though, because when I skimmed gambit's posts as a villa in Star Wars he seemed SO RIDICULOUSLY DIFFERENT IN TONE AND GAME-SOLVINESS, and I brought it up in the thread on d2 (in the face of gambit shamelessly asserting that he had no real leans on most of the player list) but I didn't pursue it, because gambit was being insultingly aggro and Leo was backing him up all the way, which makes it no fun to try and build a case and marshal thread support

oh well
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05-20-2014 , 12:26 PM
I had ur back j
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05-20-2014 , 12:26 PM
I'm also going to use that method of leaving my peeks the next time I rand seer (probably in 2017 or so), because I liked it and it worked

too bad tappo was a wolf
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05-20-2014 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
Leo doesn't white knight gambit (and give me a wolf lean for pushing gambit d1) and the villa wins

that is a lock
rofl

ok.
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05-20-2014 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
I had ur back j


we should've forged ahead on that one together

i also should have had the courage of my convictions to stick on my killer CFD on d2 when it had become beyond clear to me that both KruZe and ianaww (and Nike) were flipping villa almost always, but instead i took the wimpy way out by seizing on a perceived gotcha on ianaww and hoping my overall read was wrong

not sure how much it would have changed in the end to lynch killer d2, but it certainly couldn't have hurt the villa win equity
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05-20-2014 , 12:30 PM
we def would have had to have tried much earlier if we were gonna lynch killer d2

meh
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05-20-2014 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LeonardoDicaprio
rofl

ok.
you don't come guns a-blazing in support of gambit, and I either (1) try to get him lynched d1 over Wilverine or (2) having lynched Wilverine d1, use my villa cred to exhort the odd vig to kill gambit that night

100 percent guaranteed

so, yeah

(and if he's alive on d2 and takes the same line about how he has no real lean on most of the player list, I absolutely push him as hard as I can when I realize that ianaww/Nike/Kruze are villa)
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05-20-2014 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LeonardoDicaprio
we def would have had to have tried much earlier if we were gonna lynch killer d2

meh
he was either one vote off lead wagon or tied for lead wagon when you, me, gambit, and one or two others voted him with 5 minutes left

there's a decent chance that could have gotten done if we'd stuck with it
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05-20-2014 , 12:32 PM
that doesn't' even close to 100% guarantee a win

and gambit has literally never had a wolf game that looks anything like this, so i'm not sure why i'm not supposed to have a villager lean on him at least early this game.

once he started being ok with lynching literally anyone later on then yeah sure
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05-20-2014 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
he was either one vote off lead wagon or tied for lead wagon when you, me, gambit, and one or two others voted him with 5 minutes left

there's a decent chance that could have gotten done if we'd stuck with it
yeah maybe

i think when i switched back to ianaww it was xposted with one or 2 more killer votes

thought it was safer just to try and get him lynched since kruze was villagery
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05-20-2014 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LeonardoDicaprio
that doesn't' even close to 100% guarantee a win

and gambit has literally never had a wolf game that looks anything like this, so i'm not sure why i'm not supposed to have a villager lean on him at least early this game.

once he started being ok with lynching literally anyone later on then yeah sure
the more important point is whether he would ever, ever, ever have a game like that as a villager (specifically being an absolute raging ******* in lieu of making any effort to solve the game, when he usually is a nice guy who puts in work in the gameflow)

and the answer is not that I can ever remember, and the Star Wars game is a great point of contrast

not sure why him being a **** caused you to mason up with him, but i guess it is what it is
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05-20-2014 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LeonardoDicaprio
that doesn't' even close to 100% guarantee a win

and gambit has literally never had a wolf game that looks anything like this, so i'm not sure why i'm not supposed to have a villager lean on him at least early this game.

once he started being ok with lynching literally anyone later on then yeah sure
if you suck at tone reading you can have whatever read you want.


But the excessive white knighting was pretty bad
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05-20-2014 , 12:39 PM
like, literally, Leo: on d2 I had an extended exchange with gambit where he stated repeatedly that mets and cory (both obvious villagers) were on his vig shortlist, and then gave me static for asking him for additional wolf leans

therefore on d2, he was already giving ample evidence that he was not interested remotely in solving the game

i wish you'd actually noticed at the time
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05-20-2014 , 12:42 PM
i support any white knighting leo does

also, u guys cant be too hard on him considering gambit was effectively a villager
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05-20-2014 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
gambit, if you're going to take lines like "someone you think is a villager fakepeeked me; DO YOU THINK HE'S LYING???" then nobody will take you seriously this game
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Originally Posted by DividedSky
Gad,'

keep expecting people to answer your questions and lol'ing when they ask you some


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Originally Posted by DividedSky
I am just pointing out the fact that it is super silly of you to be pushing me
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
gambit,

Would you genuinely like me to answer those questions? I assumed they couldn't possibly be serious.

Best,
Gad
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Originally Posted by LeonardoDicaprio
gambit and gad

well played, Leo
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05-20-2014 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
the more important point is whether he would ever, ever, ever have a game like that as a villager (specifically being an absolute raging ******* in lieu of making any effort to solve the game, when he usually is a nice guy who puts in work in the gameflow)

and the answer is not that I can ever remember, and the Star Wars game is a great point of contrast

not sure why him being a **** caused you to mason up with him, but i guess it is what it is
i fake peeked him well before he got into any spats with anyone

and there have been games where he's gotten into arguments with people as a villager

mets you didn't even attempt to lynch him the day you came out as seer and i said i wasn't going to hard defend him anymore

also both of the other basically confirmed villagers thought he was a villager as well

hey guess what, he was a lone wolf

big stretch to think our read might not have actually been so far off

i'll be your scapegoat tho

np
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05-20-2014 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
well played, Leo
heaven forbid you continue to question someone you think is a wolf when someone posts a little girl gif
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05-20-2014 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by corycurren
Forreal serious question

Mod just gave you three dayvigs you HAVE to use this instant

Can't holster

Who dies?
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Originally Posted by DividedSky
Jay

Kruze

Mets or you. Prob Mets since you are kinda fun to play ww with
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
wanting to vig two of the clearer people in the game isn't a great look

taking mets, cory, jay, and KruZe out of the equation, who are your top three wolf reads?
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Originally Posted by DividedSky
so you want to know my top 7 people to kill?

no idea
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
gambit

mets and cory cannot possibly be two of your top four wolf leans

can you be serious, please?
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Originally Posted by DividedSky
I dont have Mets as a wolf lean but I would still vig him

Cory can still be a wolf for multiple reasons and lol at people who are saying he cant

Kruze and Jay are both on my wolf list

Not sure who else.

Why is that a problem for you to accept?
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
What happened to me making good points?

Why are you tunneling so much?

I feel like you're just trolling me here

Are you seriously asking why it's a problem that you only have jay, KruZe, and cory as possible wolves at this point?
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
Leo, when you get back, tell your mason to form more wolf reads and to stop posturing about wanting to vig cory and mets

thanks
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Originally Posted by DividedSky
- you did make good points

- I am not "tunneling", this is pretty standard for how I play. I am not one to make huge lists and have tons of villas and wolves. I usually have a couple of each and go from there. Obv you and I approach the game differently but that doesnt mean you are right and I am wrong, its just different

- I am not trolling you. The dude just told me to suck his dick and you are shocked I would wnat to vig him? really?

- there are other people in the game that I am obv not sure on at all ( Lilrascal and Nike come to mind) but I am not gonna go out and say they are a wolf lean or a villa lean when really they are just in my idk pile.

-you can try and force me to make stances on people all you want but if I dont have a set lean on them I am not gonna just make one up to appease you
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Originally Posted by DividedSky
Gad,

I was under the impression that you and I had agreed to be civil to each other and try to work together

You telling me what to do is neither of those things
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
then will you do me the courtesy of responding to them and explaining the multiple reasons that you think cory could still be a wolf?



he told you to suck his dick after you said you wanted to vig him, so...



is it fair to say that you had more opinions on more people when you were villaging in Star Wars? if i were to skim your posts from there, would they look similar to your posts this game?



if you don't seem interested in coming to conclusions about people to try and solve the game, I am entitled to think you are a wolf. if you are not a wolf, i would prefer that you make a contribution besides busting on cory, cuddling up to Leo, and repeating jay and KruZe's names.
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
I am trying to work with you, gambit; you're the one saying that you can't be bothered to make more reads.

Look at this from my perspective, where your wolf list consists of the same two guys who were wagons yesterday, a dude who is almost certainly villager for myriad reasons that you won't engage on, and nobody else.
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
like, it's not that you have different reads from me, it's that your "idk pile" is huge and you don't seem interested at all in trying to winnow it down
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Originally Posted by DividedSky
-Cory could still be a wolf due to the NK not being a seer hunt. This is a V+ not a V

-Correct... so?

-Star Wars is a great game to look at. You will see that I find 3 or 4 other people who I think are villagers and then work with them to get an ITA list going and figure out the lynch. Highly suggest you look at that game.

-If you continue talk to me in a condescending manner, I will be returning the favor, understand Gad?
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Originally Posted by DividedSky
See, this is why we seem to butt heads in games. You like to make **** up and I seem to always want to point that out.

I didnt say that, I said I am not gonna force a read just to appease you
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Originally Posted by DividedSky
Again, this is just another example of you making **** up
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
what about the rest of my points? even putting the SHC thing completely aside, there's stuff like Wilverine's posts about cory that, as far as I can see, you haven't even looked at

and for example, i'm pretty sure you're sharp enough to accept that cory making an uncounterclaimed role claim weights his range heavily towards that role



so you can't use him telling you that as a reason to want to vig him, because you wanted to vig him BEFORE he told you that



i did. from what i read, you give a continuous and dynamic series of reads. the very fact that you worked to build an ITA list shows that you were developing wolf leans in a way that you admittedly are not doing here



dude

i am trying to find wolves

if you are a villager, then please help me do so
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
what are you doing to try and take people out of your idk pile and into a different pile? this is a sincere and valid question. i am not trying to be combative here.
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Originally Posted by DividedSky
spending all my time having you nit pick my posts and responding to that

You can not be this dense
soooooooooooo villagery
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05-20-2014 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LeonardoDicaprio
i fake peeked him well before he got into any spats with anyone

and there have been games where he's gotten into arguments with people as a villager

mets you didn't even attempt to lynch him the day you came out as seer and i said i wasn't going to hard defend him anymore

also both of the other basically confirmed villagers thought he was a villager as well

hey guess what, he was a lone wolf

big stretch to think our read might not have actually been so far off

i'll be your scapegoat tho

np
I was going to come out with him with a peek of traitor

then after he got lynched, I was going to leave my real pic of you. But I have no balls.
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