4/30 Criminal Minds Vanilla WW Slow Game Thread - Page 87

I also thought Sun/Hoya w/w was in play fwiw, having wolfed with them in Mechano when they Sun bussed hell out of Hoya. The thing that broke it for me was the infraction talk. Probably shouldn't be posted about in game threads imo, but whatever no biggie.

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05-06-2013 , 09:25 PM

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It has been made clear by a number of people that good wolves like to bus Pitch. It's so clear that a truly good wolf may decide not to bus Pitch because they know they wouldn't get much credit from the bus. Hoya is claiming villa credit for not bussing Pitch. He is somehow also claiming villa credit for pushing Pitch all day. I think Hoya bussed Pitch in a creative way: by pushing him all day but not voting him at eod.

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05-06-2013 , 09:25 PM

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Once you read the part where he says Sun is his only living peek like 12363461234174271`2374 times, there's nothing left to read.

Also it's an abysmal NK so I'm obviously not a wolf, but whatever.

I'm starting to believe you regarding that part. But it's not hurting anything so I guess I'll finish. I am proceeding on the assumption that the wolves killed him for something and the nk was not rand()ed.

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05-06-2013 , 09:28 PM

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He did really want to kill Charry, fwiw. He didn't claim it as a peek, but it's possible that the wolf team saw an opportunity to kill someone without giving any addiitional information to the village and also reduce heat on one of their members.

Plus it gives Hoya the opportunity to come in here and say "That kill was abysmal. Therefore I am not a wolf."

Here's a question, Hoya, you are known as an exceptional villager and wolf, both. So we as the village are supposed to believe that the wolf team, if they had no idea who the seer was, passed up the opportunity to eat you in order to eat mets?

Really?

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05-06-2013 , 09:30 PM

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I've certainly considered this, remedys. I made a lengthy post earlier about what kind of approach (or on the fly decisions) Hoya would have had to make for him to be a wolf. It's way outside his normal range, and I just don't see him deciding to do it in a regular vanilla 13er. He'd wait for a big game to pull this out imo.

My read atm anyway. Obviously if this game goes sideways and he's still around late, re-eval.

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05-06-2013 , 09:33 PM

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VR, I think we can be extremely confident that the wolf team has no idea what it's doing and I have no idea why they would eat the most disruptive player on this earth when he's not the seer - I even TOLD THEM he wasn't the seer.

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05-06-2013 , 09:33 PM

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Sun said about 500 times to lynch Hoya when he flipped villa. It's not at all surprising he wasn't killed.

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05-06-2013 , 09:34 PM

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Anyway remedys just the next in a long line of people who want it to be one way.

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05-06-2013 , 09:40 PM

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its a slow 13er with a live seer and you think a wolf team of VR UAW AND GTPITCH would let pitch get lynched on day 1?

you are on crack

qft

gtpitch is probably the best wolf on that list, by a lot.

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05-06-2013 , 09:41 PM

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If someone is a horrible wolf and they get lynched day 1, that means two more horrible wolves WOULD NEVER HAVE MADE THAT MISTAKE?

Is that the argument?

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05-06-2013 , 09:43 PM

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I would have certainly tried to stop it. I certainly wouldn't have missed nightfall altogether while voting off wagon. All it would have taken is one vote to possibly swing the lynch thanks to you and Sun changing your votes.

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05-06-2013 , 09:43 PM

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qft

gtpitch is probably the best wolf on that list, by a lot.

QFBS

how far back did you have to go to pull that mets quote?

LOL at you and UAW "letting" pitch get lynched? WTF were you going to do about it?

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05-06-2013 , 09:45 PM

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QFBS

how far back did you have to go to pull that mets quote?

LOL at you and UAW "letting" pitch get lynched? WTF were you going to do about it?

You do realize it only would have taken one vote to take it to a flip. Or since UAW was actually voting pitch, he could have flipped the lynch entirely.

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05-06-2013 , 09:47 PM

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Legend, if you're a villager, you're going to feel pretty stupid about this evening's interactions once I flip villager and hoya flips wolf.

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05-06-2013 , 09:48 PM

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You do realize it only would have taken one vote to take it to a flip. Or since UAW was actually voting pitch, he could have flipped the lynch entirely.

He voted him when the vote was 4-2 to make it 5-2 and then left. Honestly if wn, Hoya, and I were all firmly on pitch, him deciding "one person bus me, one person I'll try to spew villa" is a completely viable line for that team.

Sorry about your rand?

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05-06-2013 , 09:48 PM

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Hoya has been doing a lot of seer hunting this game. Does he typically do that as a villa? As a wolf?

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05-06-2013 , 09:50 PM

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Legend, if you're a villager, you're going to feel pretty stupid about this evening's interactions once I flip villager and hoya flips wolf.

I accept that possibility. I've been off my game. But what am I supposed to do, just stop trying to analyze? Do the Costanza "opposite" thing? I just need to fight through this slump.

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05-06-2013 , 09:51 PM

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And with my wolfbro on the block I missed nightfall with a useless vote on bhuber? Really?

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05-06-2013 , 09:54 PM

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And with my wolfbro on the block I missed nightfall with a useless vote on bhuber? Really?

If irl stuff is going, sure. I missed eod1 because of a work mini-crisis.

I like that you're playing the game, and I don't want to maj tonight. If you can make some more legit self-clearing cases like this, I'm totally fine with voting someone else today.

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05-06-2013 , 09:55 PM

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VR can you point to a wolf game where you've been around at eod when a partner is on the block?

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05-06-2013 , 09:57 PM

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I said that Pitch's being nice to me had a bit of a wolfy feel to it. I'm getting the same feel from Legend a bit. I still have Legend near the top of my villa list, but I thought I'd note that.

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05-06-2013 , 10:01 PM

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VR can you point to a wolf game where you've been around at eod when a partner is on the block?

I haven't been a wolf in a long game in a really really long time, so I don't remember. I don't think I've been a wolf in a non-turbo since before Burn Notice.

I do shamelessly defend my wolf brethren though, and I seldom bus.

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05-06-2013 , 10:05 PM

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I said that Pitch's being nice to me had a bit of a wolfy feel to it. I'm getting the same feel from Legend a bit. I still have Legend near the top of my villa list, but I thought I'd note that.

Wow remedys, you're sliding down the pole. I was nice to you early on because I did you read villa and liked your demeanor. I white-knighted you a few times on d1 and kept my villa read through this morning. Did you not see where I semi-reversed that read on this page? Or is that what you're basing this on?

Your reads summary post was not very good, either. We need less play-by-play and more color commentary.

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05-06-2013 , 10:06 PM

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Do you think gtpitch fakepeeks a fellow wolf as a villager day 1? That seems unlikely.

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05-06-2013 , 10:08 PM

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Legend: I did see where you semi-reversed that read on this page. That's not what I'm basing this on.

What do you mean by less play-by-play and more color commentary? Like what Hoya and you were saying earlier about more POE and less general reads? Ie rereading particular players more?

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