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05-06-2013 , 03:05 PM
Felt kind of uninspired after reading his 21 posts. Nothing sticks out as inherently wolfy other than the fact that he seems to think vix is wolfing (and VR would be his second wolf as of 4.30 yesterday).
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05-06-2013 , 03:15 PM
Is it possible to slank too much as a wolf? I feel like he (UAW) has been in here less than I have (which is hard to do so far; I feel like he would almost be here MORE often as a wolf simply because he knows that slanking would arise suspicion. Perhaps the strategy is just to stay UTR as long as possible until literally called out for not contributing?)

[x] come in and make sensible reads
[x] disappear until pressure is exerted
[x] come back and give plausible explanations
[x] profit
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05-06-2013 , 03:42 PM
VR's posts sound okay on tone; hasnt posted since the 4th so that kind of sucks.

The things I found possibly wolfy about them:

- Lots of game theory discussed (possibly role neutral but gives a wolf the opportunity to appear active without saying much about the current game)
- I think I could quote at least 3 places where she said "this read may change later" or "I reserve the right to change this read" which seemed kind of weird/out of place/apologetic/a scapegoat to change reads later

I did think the progression of her read on mets was kind of villagery and the rest of her reads seem to evolve ITT/rather than stick on one person so that seems okay too.
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05-06-2013 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
I should have stayed home and saved sun yesterday :/
I thought about this last night, we should have waited on Sun for you to put your approval stamp on it. I got a little excited at the prospect of finding two wolves in two days. Second time in a row doing inter-game research has led me to a wrong read. Damn this game.
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05-06-2013 , 03:53 PM
I don't even remotely regret the Sun thing, not sure why anyone is bothered by that.
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05-06-2013 , 04:04 PM
I figured being the seer this game would help me figure **** out.

It hasnt.
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05-06-2013 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
I don't even remotely regret the Sun thing, not sure why anyone is bothered by that.
Me either.

He wasn't near my top wolf but nobody was interested in lynching any of those. All that thunderdoming was counter productive. And hey it managed to get mets killed.
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05-06-2013 , 04:17 PM
Huber you should make those first two alleged peeks clear so we can all play along
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05-06-2013 , 04:21 PM
meh, read vix's posts.

His toan is excellente. Still not sure why you have UAW as not-suspicious/one of your top villa leans?

Do you still feel that way? Or was that merely based on his early entrance on d1?
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05-06-2013 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
I don't even remotely regret the Sun thing, not sure why anyone is bothered by that.
I don't really regret it and I don't think he has a right to say he didn't deserve it (terrible reads, 100% focus on you, spiteful reaction to pressure, etc.), but it probably would have been smart to wait for well named.

Also when good players go down saying "if I flip villa, be sure to lynch so-and-so next" I feel some obligation to that, because it's happened to me several times only to watch the player win as wolf. So I have a little conflict because I still read you villa and would rather clear you and help the solve the game than have to tie both eyes behind my head watching my back with you.
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05-06-2013 , 04:30 PM
I guess that's a long way of saying I don't feel bad for Sun, but *will* feel bad for him if Hoya ends up winning as wolf.
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05-06-2013 , 04:33 PM
I still like remedys posting based off tone (im gonna facepalm hard if he is a wolf)

leaning villa
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05-06-2013 , 04:36 PM
On level 1, the mets kill looks bad for charry/VR- those are the two wagons he was pushing for yesterday.

On level 1.5, he was the most vocal person itt about seer stuff, maybe they thought he was looking for cover with all his hunting. Also he had no live peeks, so it could have been a Hail Mary hoping for a bink.

On level who knows, I looked up his deepest seer game and it was Murder on the Orient Express (vanilla 17er two years ago)- it looks like he played it conventionally but had so many posts (like 25% of the total) that he dodged the kill for four nights. Fwiw Hoya was a wolf that game.

Most of these point to a not very hidden wolf team.
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05-06-2013 , 04:55 PM
sup I'm here. back from work and tbh my eyes r really heavy..
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05-06-2013 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
The wolf team is two of remedys / bhuber / VR 100% of the time
Why no UAW for you, vix?
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05-06-2013 , 05:00 PM
Votes from post 1938 to post 2040
Night in 1 day 04:00:54

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2 UAW710 bhuber2010 (16), well named (26)
1 bhuber2010 vixticator (13)
1 CPHoya remedys (6)
1 remedys CPHoya (28)
4 not voting VoraciousReader (0), UAW710 (0), legend42 (10), Charry (3)
  
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05-06-2013 , 05:04 PM
dammit, lost my post ffs.

I'm tired of reading and need a break. I still think UAW is where I am at.

Ideally (via POE) I'd like to lynch in this order but this is probably not the best way to go given we will inevitably have more info after the seer outs/dies and the lynch/NK at EOD.

UAW (UTR + seemingly correct reads IMO which seems slightly less likely given his time in the thread)
VR (didnt like her posts about reserving reads for change later/her quasi-weird defensiveness this game)
Charry - didnt like his entrance yesterday(and/or his supreme confidence that I am villagin/vix is villagin/someone else was too); I am pretty sure I have duped him really hard in at least 1 game on PTP when I was wolfing so his insta-clearing of me didnt sit too well.
vix (his tone is the best thing he has going for him IMO; havent seen a whole lot I liked but didnt see anything glaringly bad either. I did kind of like his interaction with gpitch on d1 as being villagery. hoya has also fake peeked him = v/charry instantly came in the thread and said "lolvix is villagin" which I thought was interesting with vix not having posted a whole lot at the time
wellnamed (would probably be slightly higher on this list if it werent the SHC-like kill and the fact that I did like his posting so far today (although I hated his d1/d2 outside of staying hard on UAW - the whole TMI thing is still fresh in my mind/could have just bussed hard)
hoya (t0an + game solvey posts)
legend42 (t0an + game solvey posts)
remedys (t0an + game solvey posts)
bhuber2010 - villagin

* the three with "(t0an + game solvey posts)" I havent devoted as much time to reading because they were my initial villagers so I started on the others (but I will get to them too)

w/e, im sure half of what I wrote doesnt make sense, but I cant seem to find anything definitive lol
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05-06-2013 , 05:07 PM
legend the reasons I'm obviously a villager are the same as yesterday, you can relax, nothing has changed and I remain a good guy
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05-06-2013 , 05:37 PM
I think the last 2 are in UAW/vr. legend has about a million good posts that I like.. there's a few that stick out to me that I don't particularly like but I'm probably never voting him. remedys I cleared early on tone.. but now his lists r kind of distracting and ppl r bringing up good points about him.

bhuber
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05-06-2013 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Charry
I think the last 2 are in UAW/vr. legend has about a million good posts that I like.. there's a few that stick out to me that I don't particularly like but I'm probably never voting him. remedys I cleared early on tone.. but now his lists r kind of distracting and ppl r bringing up good points about him.
Okay.

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bhuber
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05-06-2013 , 05:44 PM
lol
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05-06-2013 , 05:45 PM
WEREWOLF HOW DOES IT WORK
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05-06-2013 , 05:46 PM
I've been trying to figure that out for about 5 years
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05-06-2013 , 05:47 PM
charvixuawvr
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05-06-2013 , 05:48 PM
Not one thing in that post makes any sense.

1. Present wolf team of 2 people.

2. Hypothesize that someone else is a wolf.

3. Vote yet someone else.
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