Originally Posted by remedys
YESSS!!!
Notes (I haven't read today yet -- also, this is gonna be a long post, but high content I hope):
Legend - He seemed pretty villagery with his tone and game solvey posts. Then he lead gtpitch's lynch. Very good.
VR - She seemed decent/good yesterday, a highlight being the boldness in her reads. Also, when she first posted some of her reads, they were quite different from mine. However, as the game progressed my reads started looking more like hers. I'm not sure why she wasn't around eod yesterday when she said she would be. Perhaps the snow storm killed her electricity or internet??
Check out this interaction between WN and Pitch starting at post 935:
WN: it's partly zomg you didn't post
it's partly that the posts you did make felt pretty awkward
and I'm remembering that all mod 13er where we were both wolves
Pitch: huh
this game is nothing like that game
i just got karWRECKED in that game
WN: what would you call what's happening here then?
Pitch:[x] standard
I mean in that game I was cleared by like everyone until like 30 minutes left until EOD
here i've been called a wolf since the game started which pretty much always happens cuz "ZOMG he doesn't post!"
Pitch: Originally Posted by VoraciousReader View Post [quotes VR]
"I'm not afraid of getting lynched. I am tired of playing werewolf and being told that what I do isn't good enough. Sometimes I slank and deserve some criticism. There was a game day like that in my last game. But I hate feeling like I should apologize for going to sleep or going to work. It makes werewolf feel burdensome and like an obligation. And people like bhuber that get all excited and accuse me of low participation make me REALLY not want to participate, to the point where I've left the thread before because I couldn't trust myself to be civil.
So if I get infracted, too ****ing bad. I'm going to start pushing back on plays like this because if I don't they are too damn exploitable by wolves as they simultaneously get to call me wolfy for no reason and decrease my interest in participating and clearing myself.
So this is my notice to all the wolves out there. If you are prepared to vote me for low participation, you'd better be able to back it up."
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WN doing some excellent work here, this is looking real good for him. Pitch quoting VR's long and angry post about how she hates when people call her a wolf for not posting much looks good for VR. Pitch quoted the post and was like "yeah, I'm not posting much either, so I'm villa too." It seems likely Pitch would use a villa to support him here.
Mets was high on my villa list yesterday- however, Pitch being a wolf, and the eod both look bad for Mets. Mets was the first person to defend Pitch, claiming DADV. Perhaps the wolves were worried that no one was defending Pitch, and so they started to.
At 9:00pm Hoya and then Sun vote Mets. This was suspicious in itself, as Hoya and Sun had been tunneling eachother much of yesterday. It's odd they voted the same person in the end. Mets was on Sun's wolf list (though not a prime wolf), but was in the middle of the pack according to Hoya, pre his vote. It was a bit odd how Pitch didn't vote Mets to tie the waggons. Probably he just didn't see it in time. Perhaps (but less likely) Mets is a wolfbro and so he wouldn't snap vote him last second.
I think it's quite unlikely that Hoya and Sun are w/w. If they were, why would they cfd together? I doubt they would. Both Hoya and sun were in the middle of my reads list yesterday, and I found each of them looking suspicious (and noted it) at times. This eod didn't look good for them. Also, they were tunneling each other a lot yesterday. I think they are w/v. V/v seems pretty unlikely, though not impossible.
I think Hoya is the wolf among them. Hoya, in post 1028, at 8:42pm: "so pitch really is doing his better-than-his-wolf-game thing, votes on him are becoming poor." Hoya was on Pitch before eod yesterday. At eod he switched off him and urged others to do the same.
I reread charry's d1. I think he's a v, although it pains me to say it. I've read some long games that Charry was in, and a good # of turbos (and played in a turbo w/ him). As I said in that turbo, "Charry is a crazy mofo." He reads like a wolf, but knowing Charry I think he's a v. At eod yesterday I felt like Charry hadn't been making reads, but reading back I see that he has actually been making some. Also, somehow his tone made me think v. He seems to want to help out, although he doesn't have much time for ww aorn. Hopefully he'll do some good work today.
I think Bhuber looks pretty bad after yesterday. He didn't post a whole lot of content, while trying to look like a macho villager. Then he says he's gonna wim it up but doesn't. I was thinking that if he was a villa and said he'd wim it up, and then his gf came home and wanted to eat, that he would have felt the wim and told us he was going out to eat, or perhaps even postponed going out to eat. I wonder if he just forgot about it as a wolf.
J.D. seemed like a strange NK. If I were the wolves I imagine I'd have killed a stronger and more clear villa like Legend. The fact that Legend wasn't nk'd makes me a little suspicious of Legend. I'm not sure about JD's peek.
After finding out that Pitch is a wolf, I find his reads list very interesting. In one post he posted reads on 11 players, but left out J.D. and Hoya. On level 1 you'd think that he'd leave out villas, simply forgetting to mention him. He can't forget to mention his wolf bros. However, he could have intentionally left them out hoping we'd think as I just mentioned.
I think I look pretty good from lynching Pitch, and generally contributed (or at least tried to) to the villa a lot yesterday. I felt a bit lost at eod yesterday, but luckily it turned out well.
UAW voted Pitch which is nice.
A Pitch/Hoya/Bhuber wolf team seems possible.
If I'm seer, I peeked sun v.
Reads list (I listed JD and Pitch as it seems helpful to see them on the list for me..):
Villas:
J.D.
Remedys
Legend
VR
WN
Villa lean:
UAW
Charry
Sun
Unsure:
Vix
Wolf lean:
Mets
Bhuber
Hoya/Sun (one of them, probly Hoya)
Pitch