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05-09-2013 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by remedys
I just thought that it's a bit cheap that the wolf can wait until f3 and then go "oh, I guess Remedys a wolf" and make a case then, as Legend pointed out. I thought this might help out the wolf by making them make the case earlier.
remedys, the problem is you could still be a wolf. I don't believe you are, but you're the most unknown quantity.

If I was 100% sure about you, I'd absolutely try to decree a lynch order that didn't include you. But I'm not, so I won't. You trying to set one is wolfy, but you seem to realize that so I'll ignore it. If the game keeps going, you're going to have to play ww.

Also people making intractable lynch orders allows the wolf to choose the NK based on that. Like if tomorrow, vix says I'm voting remedys in f3 and vix says I'm voting VR, then either of you could base the kill on that (or try to level). I will *suggest*a lynch order since I'm dying tonight. But it will probably have VR as the clear one. Just my read. We should get there almost every time with bhuber/wn, though.
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05-09-2013 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by legend42
remedys, the problem is you could still be a wolf. I don't believe you are, but you're the most unknown quantity.

If I was 100% sure about you, I'd absolutely try to decree a lynch order that didn't include you. But I'm not, so I won't. You trying to set one is wolfy, but you seem to realize that so I'll ignore it. If the game keeps going, you're going to have to play ww.

Also people making intractable lynch orders allows the wolf to choose the NK based on that. Like if tomorrow, vix says I'm voting remedys in f3 and vix says I'm voting VR, then either of you could base the kill on that (or try to level). I will *suggest*a lynch order since I'm dying tonight. But it will probably have VR as the clear one. Just my read. We should get there almost every time with bhuber/wn, though.
This is basically what I was saying, except much more elegant.
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05-09-2013 , 07:53 PM
Except I mistyped vix twice instead of vix and UAW. But you get the idea. And someone could be super villagery or wolfy tomorrow and change up the whole thing. I get your fear that you're being set up, but you've done a good job so far, so you just have to keep clearing yourself or find the wolf.
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05-09-2013 , 07:56 PM
Yes yes, words of wisdom ITT.

Now you just have to heed mine and think about how effing ridiculous it is that WN pegged both wolves on day 1 and put them both at the absolute bottom of his list of reads.

(if I am wrong I'll accept that and then we'll lynch VR because she played a half-decent wolf game and I cant seem to tone read her in anyway that seems bad enough to be the wolf).

And if its not one of those two, I suppose I'll have to get off my lazy ass and actually read remedy's posts so I can explain to the other person left why he is somehow the last damn wolf, lol.
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05-09-2013 , 07:57 PM
Assuming I am still alive
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05-09-2013 , 07:57 PM
About whether that suggestion of mine was wolfy: If we followed that suggestion and had me as the last villa, then I'd win whether I'm villa or wolf, so I have a lot of incentive to want something like that in either role. That's why I put it out there for you all to decide if it was a good idea, and you decided it's not which is fine.
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05-09-2013 , 08:00 PM
Votes from post 2504 to post 2956
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2 bhuber2010 well named (71), UAW710 (11)
1 remedys vixticator (73)
1 well named bhuber2010 (101)
2 unvote remedys (50), VoraciousReader (59)
1 not voting legend42 (72)
  
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05-09-2013 , 08:00 PM
UAW get your ass back in here.
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05-09-2013 , 08:00 PM
And that's a good point that "someone could be super villagery or wolfy tomorrow and change up the whole thing."
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05-09-2013 , 08:02 PM
Yeah remedys, it's just an easy way to not have to play the endgame. I'm actually thinking about going well named first here which would at least make it easier for you if you're a villager, cause that kid can bend some spoons.
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05-09-2013 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by remedys
I just thought that it's a bit cheap that the wolf can wait until f3 and then go "oh, I guess Remedys a wolf" and make a case then, as Legend pointed out. I thought this might help out the wolf by making them make the case earlier.
This is a really odd thought process to have here as a villager my friend
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05-09-2013 , 08:04 PM
Cool. Here's a post by Hoya that I had on hand that looks good for me and makes some good points:

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Originally Posted by CPHoya
I'm soft-clearing remedys again, I don't even want to bother explaining it because it's just so convoluted. Basically he had no reason to make sun and I w/v on day 2 and he built his whole day around that, if he's a wolf he won't bother because he doesn't have traction to get mileage out of it and he'll just look wrong and bad. There's other stuff too, he harangues pitch about his reads at a time where he should never do that as a wolf to another wolf.
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05-09-2013 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bhuber2010
(if I am wrong I'll accept that and then we'll lynch VR because she played a half-decent wolf game and I cant seem to tone read her in anyway that seems bad enough to be the wolf).
I know if you're a villager, you don't want to get mislynched, but this isn't happening. VR is the one person whose range I know somewhat well and the posts she made yesterday (earlier today in ww time) were pretty well outside her wolf range imo.

It's got to be you tomorrow if we lynch wn and he flips villa.
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05-09-2013 , 08:06 PM
Barring extreme change-aments in tone, as stated earlier.
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05-09-2013 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
This is a really odd thought process to have here as a villager my friend
(the "Cool" was directed at Legend's post)

You've thought a lot of my thought processes have been wolfy/odd for much of d1 and d2. What about this seems odd to you?
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05-09-2013 , 08:10 PM
Votes from post 2504 to post 2965
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2 bhuber2010 well named (71), UAW710 (11)
1 remedys vixticator (74)
1 well named bhuber2010 (102)
2 unvote remedys (53), VoraciousReader (59)
1 not voting legend42 (75)
  
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05-09-2013 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by remedys
(the "Cool" was directed at Legend's post)

You've thought a lot of my thought processes have been wolfy/odd for much of d1 and d2. What about this seems odd to you?
Sounds like you're anticipating a f3
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05-09-2013 , 08:17 PM
remedys, I don't think I saw this exchange in your Charry spew:

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Originally Posted by Charry
Sun tzu wants to self vote - cool.

Don't understand how bhuber has 2 votes.. But maybe that's cuz I know about his villa game
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
Was it last game that you said this and he was woofing?
Charry never answered afaict. Not damning, but not great.
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05-09-2013 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by legend42
I know if you're a villager, you don't want to get mislynched, but this isn't happening. VR is the one person whose range I know somewhat well and the posts she made yesterday (earlier today in ww time) were pretty well outside her wolf range imo.

It's got to be you tomorrow if we lynch wn and he flips villa.
Thats fine, I will go out kicking and screaming like a little bitch but I'd rather him die than me (ignoring the fact that I think there is a >rand chance that he is the last wolf).

He just makes it a bitch to prove if he is. I dont have meta with VR that I can take into consideration, but like I said today, I think her tone was pretty excellent so she played it well if she is the lone wolf remaining.
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05-09-2013 , 08:20 PM
Votes from post 2504 to post 2969
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2 bhuber2010 well named (71), UAW710 (11)
1 remedys vixticator (75)
1 well named bhuber2010 (103)
2 unvote remedys (53), VoraciousReader (59)
1 not voting legend42 (76)
  
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05-09-2013 , 08:20 PM
Ah. I think that's just because of my personality and worrying/planning for the worst case scenario.
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05-09-2013 , 08:22 PM
This is the most unfrozen you will ever see me (cause I am not a wolf). I dont think I could come up with 103 posts in a day unless I was a villager about to be miss-lynched lol.
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05-09-2013 , 08:26 PM
My vote's goin on Bhuber at 8:30.
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05-09-2013 , 08:26 PM
bhuber, I'm taking that into account. The thing is being last wolf when you have nothing to lose, no partners to worry about defending or spewing, etc. can also be liberating.

I've been final wolf before knowing I have no chance to win, but it's fun fighting for one more day. Just trying to decide if you're in that mode or not.
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05-09-2013 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by remedys
My vote's goin on Bhuber at 8:30.
You don't want to eliminate well named today?
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