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Did hoya not claim that he had peaked VR or am I not remembering that correctly? If she was the last wolf, that would obviously be spewing herself wolf if she put in the kill for hoya when trying to seer hunt amirite?

Hoya claimed his peeks were

you-v
vix-v
legend-w

vixticator claimed his peeks were

legend-v
charry-w
me-v

Hoya died and vix lived, but legend didn't come in here today drawing what I would assume is the obvious conclusion from the nk from his point of view, that I am a wolf

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05-08-2013 , 03:22 PM

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Wait what? When did vix post his peak of charry? Did he peak him d2?

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05-08-2013 , 03:24 PM

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I feel like last nights kill had to be either

1) a FPS kill
2) the lone wolf had no idea who the seer was and just tried to kill a stronger player

1 seems more likely to me. If legend is the last wolf remaining, he would be spewing himself wolf by killing hoya while seer hunting.

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05-08-2013 , 03:26 PM

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Say for example, if vix is the last wolf, he kills hoya knowing hes not the seer at all...SHC kills himself (ldo) and sets up legend for a mislynch

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05-08-2013 , 03:26 PM

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Vix peeked Charry v on d2. Last post of d3 Vix flipped his peek to Charry w. I dunno how you missed that post and Hoya's peek list.

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05-08-2013 , 03:27 PM

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That combined with vix's peeks is looking hella ugly, and I havent even read his posts yet

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05-08-2013 , 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by vixticator

Ok so the reason why seer hunting is hard is...

Legend - village
Charry - wolf
VR - village

YOU GOT FLIPPED BROSEPH

It was a fairly memorable post.

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05-08-2013 , 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by remedys

Vix peeked Charry v on d2. Last post of d3 Vix flipped his peek to Charry w. I dunno how you missed that post and Hoya's peek list.

Think about what you just wrote.

Does the real seer leave a fake peek on d2, and not flip his peek before the end of the day when he can be NK and then his peek ITT is completely wrong?

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05-08-2013 , 03:29 PM

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But wellnamed's point still stands. What is legend's play as the last wolf if hoya is the seer and he DOESN'T kill him? If hoya is sitting on a legend=wolf peek, today with only one wolf left, hoya just comes into the thread and says, "Hi, guys, I'm hard claiming seer, go ahead and lynch me and when I come up seer, lynch legend for the win."

At least if hoya is dead, legend can try to argue his way out of it. Then he gets an incredible bonus when hoya flips "not the seer."

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05-08-2013 , 03:29 PM

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Vix's vote on Charry was pretty meaningless, too. He also waited to the very eod to cast it, when it was clear Charry was getting lynched. And with Vix's meta he probably could have voted someone else at the very end if he wanted to or it would have mattered. His meta is to be unpredictable..

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05-08-2013 , 03:30 PM

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Think about what you just wrote.

Does the real seer leave a fake peek on d2, and not flip his peek before the end of the day when he can be NK and then his peek ITT is completely wrong?

It's terrible play, but it's been done before. It is a play with infinite downside as some players (cough, hoya) have learned to their dismay in the past, but it's been tried.

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05-08-2013 , 03:30 PM

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You are 100% correct.

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05-08-2013 , 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bhuber2010

Think about what you just wrote.

Does the real seer leave a fake peek on d2, and not flip his peek before the end of the day when he can be NK and then his peek ITT is completely wrong?

If he's the real seer it would seem better for him to of left his peek to be completely wrong. He voted Charry at 9:00 or something, and Charry was already 99% to be lynched.

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05-08-2013 , 03:35 PM

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It's terrible play, but it's been done before. It is a play with infinite downside as some players (cough, hoya) have learned to their dismay in the past, but it's been tried.

I agree, it is a terrible, terrible, terrible play (I dont know vix or his game that well, but I tend to think it is not really possible).

It could very well be that vix is a villa (was providing seer cover) and switched his peek to try and still provide seer cover.

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05-08-2013 , 03:35 PM

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I don't see the advantage to wolf-vix of claiming seer and putting the kibosh on his wolf partner, then killing someone he knows can't be the seer. He has no exit play in that case: what's his plan when he isn't nightkilled?

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05-08-2013 , 03:42 PM

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Well, if his wolf br0 is 99% to be lynched, why not bus him and get the cred?

If he didnt know who the seer was as of last night, you might as well kill hoya, try and get SHC status and risk the 1/6 chance you get peeked since there are no other wolves left.

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05-08-2013 , 03:45 PM

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I feel like last night's kill kind of quasi clears everyone else in the game other than legend or vix lmao. Like I cant see a reason for that kill for anyone else.

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05-08-2013 , 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bhuber2010

Say for example, if vix is the last wolf, he kills hoya knowing hes not the seer at all...SHC kills himself (ldo) and sets up legend for a mislynch

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05-08-2013 , 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by vixticator

Y'all should just seer each other (hopefully one of you 2 is the seer), and then we can lynch you both accordingly.

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05-08-2013 , 03:51 PM

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Yes, but then he lynches him and DOESN'T claim seer. All claiming seer does is needlessly block vix in and make it impossible for him to win in the endgame.

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05-08-2013 , 03:53 PM

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Hi vix. Any thoughts you want to share with the class?

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05-08-2013 , 03:53 PM

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Nevermind, vix already peaked legend villa

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05-08-2013 , 03:56 PM

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and legend peaks vix villa...lol

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05-08-2013 , 03:59 PM

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I think I may have exaggerated the '99% to be lynched.' I forgot that the votes were split 4 on Charry and 3 on VR, although it seemed that everyone was settled, and the momentum was on Charry at the end, with people noting Charry's eod appearance seemed awful. Vix voted Charry at :57, capping it. I think more accurately I could have said Charry was ~90% to be lynched, excluding Vix's vote. However, if Vix had voted VR then it would have been a flip, assuming no one else changed their vote.

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05-08-2013 , 04:00 PM

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Votes from post 2504 to post 2574
Night in 1 day 05:00:55
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
2	bhuber2010	UAW710 (2), VoraciousReader (23)
1	VoraciousReader	remedys (15)
4	not voting	well named (2), vixticator (1), legend42 (3), bhuber2010 (23)

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