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05-08-2013 , 01:23 PM
bhuber
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05-08-2013 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bhuber2010
I actually feel moderately better about charry after his little charade. I feel like a wolf would be more inclined to mock a read that I had posted about him/her being wolfy versus having it legitimately effect their read about me.

In other words:

If charry is wolfing, I would expect him to reply in a mocking/condescending sort of tone
If he was villaging, he may begin to be suspicious/wonder why I suddenly felt he was wolfing and I could see how his read on me MAY change
bhuber, after charry's bizarre "trap" play where he called UAW and I the last two wolves, said that remedys was looking bad, and then voted for bhuber.

This feels like a laborious effort to defend Charry.
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05-08-2013 , 01:59 PM
I was just thinking the same thing about bhuber.

bhuber
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05-08-2013 , 02:00 PM
Votes from post 2504 to post 2528
Night in 1 day 07:00:54

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2 bhuber2010 UAW710 (2), VoraciousReader (12)
5 not voting well named (1), vixticator (0), remedys (6), legend42 (3), bhuber2010 (0)
  
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05-08-2013 , 02:10 PM
You could be right, but I want at least one vote on VR aorn.
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05-08-2013 , 02:11 PM
Vix has Legend and VR peeked villa... so I'm looking forward to hearing what he has to say today.
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05-08-2013 , 02:20 PM
I'm not getting as much out of my reread as I'd hoped. I'm doing my best, but wow day 2 was awful all the way around and Charry's posting is just so straight up odd entirely I feel like it's hard to draw any meaningful conclusions from it.
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05-08-2013 , 02:41 PM
If vix isn't the seer, I'm pretty sure I want to go Legend.
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05-08-2013 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by legend42
I'd rather do UAW or VR than charry.

We can worry about the next level guys like vix tomorrow.
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05-08-2013 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by legend42
I could definitely vote VR. I looked up a few of her games to see if I could find instances of her making votes in the middle of sentences the way Hoya quoted and wn noticed. Nothing solid, but I did scan a couple wolf games and her tone is better than I remembered. No emo rants, but she's not frozen.

So if we're clearing her on tone, which we mainly are (I also believed gtp spewed her villa a tiny bit) then we should maybe not do that.
Would like to hear from Legend which wolf games he looked up.
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05-08-2013 , 02:48 PM
1 woof left. Hoo it be.
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05-08-2013 , 02:50 PM
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5 Charry vixticator (63), VoraciousReader (36), well named (74), remedys (48), UAW710 (23)
3 VoraciousReader Charry (39), legend42 (113), CPHoya (111)
1 UAW710 bhuber2010 (30)
Welp, via final vote count, I have deduced that from the off wagon voters (myself, legend, charry, hoya) that either legend is a wolf.

Or charry was bussed by his last wolf bro. So that is where I will start.
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05-08-2013 , 02:51 PM
Pretty sweet we have a live seer left though, especially if he has 2 live peaks.
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05-08-2013 , 02:53 PM
Charry would have all but outted himself if he voted anywhere but on VR so that doesnt really spew her villa IMO (given I havent caught up on all the posts yet; just posting my thoughts on EOD).
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05-08-2013 , 03:00 PM
With 2 live peeks (f7):

We have 3 remaining V and 1 woof.

Lets do some math:

Assume we miss-lynch,

5 remaining peeps (4 v, 2 of which are confirmed, and 1 woof; essentially 1 woof and 1 villa)

Assume we miss-lynch again,

3 peeps left, 1 confirmed v, 1 normal v, 1 woof.

Hmm, I suppose that doesnt quite work. I guess 3 peeks would guarantee a win but that seems unlikely to have 3 live peeks at this point.
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05-08-2013 , 03:04 PM
Bhuber: Charry mentioned that you had played some games of WW on ptp and some on 2p2. How many games total have you played? Turbo/long? How many times villa and wolf?
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05-08-2013 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by remedys
Bhuber: Charry mentioned that you had played some games of WW on ptp and some on 2p2. How many games total have you played? Turbo/long? How many times villa and wolf?
We dont have turbos on PTP;

About 5-6 on 2+2 now (including the other games I am in currently).
Dozens of games on PTP. No idea about the break down but I've played both roles many times.

Does that scare you a little bit
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05-08-2013 , 03:09 PM
Okay, I shall start with legend since he was the only person that is still alive that voted off charry (excluding myself ldo).
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05-08-2013 , 03:13 PM
It's good to know, I thought that you'd played less than that.
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05-08-2013 , 03:13 PM
I feel like we should think about the hoaya kill some more, because it seems like it has to mean something.

For example, imagine legend is a villager. How does the wolf kill hoya KNOWING he's not the seer? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, how do you not try to kill the seer? On the other hand, it is possible that legend-wolf just thinks the game is over and is planning on conceding and then lolhoayaidsnottheseer happened. It seems like that should be way more likely than that the wolf intentionally fps'd a kill in this spot, and what other possibility is there where legend is a villager? I think the only other explanations are something like

1) wolf doesn't understand they have to kill the seer
2) wolf thought hoaya was seer even though legend is a villager (i.e thinks hoaya was fps'ing? seems unlikely)
3) wolf deliberately fps'd because he knows the real seer doesn't have many live peeks, or for some other reason thinks the FPS is viable, but I don't see how that can be the case very often either

None of these can be as likely as legend just being the last wolf
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05-08-2013 , 03:14 PM
Side thought while I am reading legends posts...did hoya leave a list of his peaks somewhere that you know of off hand remedy?
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05-08-2013 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
I feel like we should think about the hoaya kill some more, because it seems like it has to mean something.

For example, imagine legend is a villager. How does the wolf kill hoya KNOWING he's not the seer? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, how do you not try to kill the seer? On the other hand, it is possible that legend-wolf just thinks the game is over and is planning on conceding and then lolhoayaidsnottheseer happened. It seems like that should be way more likely than that the wolf intentionally fps'd a kill in this spot, and what other possibility is there where legend is a villager? I think the only other explanations are something like

1) wolf doesn't understand they have to kill the seer
2) wolf thought hoaya was seer even though legend is a villager (i.e thinks hoaya was fps'ing? seems unlikely)
3) wolf deliberately fps'd because he knows the real seer doesn't have many live peeks, or for some other reason thinks the FPS is viable, but I don't see how that can be the case very often either

None of these can be as likely as legend just being the last wolf
This x 1 billion. I dont like the fact that you were peaking into my mind just now.
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05-08-2013 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bhuber2010
Side thought while I am reading legends posts...did hoya leave a list of his peaks somewhere that you know of off hand remedy?
Yeah, at eod yesterday.
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05-08-2013 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
I feel like we should think about the hoaya kill some more, because it seems like it has to mean something.

For example, imagine legend is a villager. How does the wolf kill hoya KNOWING he's not the seer? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, how do you not try to kill the seer? On the other hand, it is possible that legend-wolf just thinks the game is over and is planning on conceding and then lolhoayaidsnottheseer happened. It seems like that should be way more likely than that the wolf intentionally fps'd a kill in this spot, and what other possibility is there where legend is a villager? I think the only other explanations are something like

1) wolf doesn't understand they have to kill the seer
2) wolf thought hoaya was seer even though legend is a villager (i.e thinks hoaya was fps'ing? seems unlikely)
3) wolf deliberately fps'd because he knows the real seer doesn't have many live peeks, or for some other reason thinks the FPS is viable, but I don't see how that can be the case very often either

None of these can be as likely as legend just being the last wolf
Did hoya not claim that he had peaked VR or am I not remembering that correctly? If she was the last wolf, that would obviously be spewing herself wolf if she put in the kill for hoya when trying to seer hunt amirite?
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05-08-2013 , 03:19 PM
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Alright, so here's the inevitable conclusion of this.

If I'm the seer, the peeks are:

n0 - huber = villa

n1 - vix = villa

n2 - legend = wolf

That takes him off the table for today obviously, you guys are gonna want to resolve me.

The UAW wagon gets worse and worse, he's not a wolf anymore.
Nm found it, guess he peaked legend wolf.
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