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05-04-2013 , 05:58 PM
you shouldn't take that approach as a villager either :P
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05-04-2013 , 05:59 PM
reading sun based on his "reads" (if by that you mean like arguments or things that you can evaluate prior to the actual roles being revealed) seems less than useful to me. I think the main reason most people feel sun is unreadable is because he doesn't focus on explaining stuff in that way, but it's not a wolf tell.

and inconsistency is also not a wolf tell
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05-04-2013 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
also explain how you "like" me citing a hunch when I was wrong, or you saying my post about remedys's day 1 post about mets was "good," in the context of you also wanting me lynched

like that's just pure ******ation
I like you citing a hunch, especially a wrong one because you're mr anti-intuition

it's funny

I said that post was good because I think remedys is wolfy
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05-04-2013 , 06:00 PM
oh my god

WN, do you really think I go at pitch, then go harder, then go really hard, THEN DOUBLE DOWN AND PREEMPTIVELY DECLARE MYSELF LOCK CLEAR WHEN HE FLIPS WOLF, and THEN give that all away at the very EOD when his posting improves even though no one is even around and I probably couldn't save him even if I tried as hard as I possibly could?

Like, really? GOAT wolf decides to play like complete balls for what reason? I'm not some scrub who makes tactical mistakes to save a terrible wolf like pitch, how can I be anywhere near the bottom of your list?
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05-04-2013 , 06:00 PM
Votes from post 1083 to post 1479
Night in 1 day 03:00:54

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VotesLynchVoters
4 Sun Tzu CPHoya (79), Sun Tzu (67), Charry (23), remedys (23)
2 Charry well named (21), metsandfinsfan (72)
1 bhuber2010 vixticator (12)
1 remedys VoraciousReader (28)
3 not voting UAW710 (0), legend42 (48), bhuber2010 (17)
  
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05-04-2013 , 06:00 PM
if remedys is a wolf he's pretty good for a first time wolf, right?

Why aren't we just lynching charry?

I'm out again but I think I will be around at least some tomorrow
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05-04-2013 , 06:01 PM
I like how hoya has no response to any of my arguments so all he can do is call my posts stupid
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05-04-2013 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
I like you citing a hunch, especially a wrong one because you're mr anti-intuition

it's funny

I said that post was good because I think remedys is wolfy
yeah but you don't, you think he's wolfy when it looks like you have some consensus about lynching him, when I point out oops, hey, actually he's WEIRD but not wolfy because of his EOD, you completely ignore that little revelation and instead vote me for pointing it out

"Seems legit"

we can do this all day, on the off chance you're a villager you're just stuck and forcing my hand by lying over and over and over again
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05-04-2013 , 06:01 PM
hoaya: I have to re-read it some day. maybe :P

wolves bus though.
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05-04-2013 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
HOW THE EVERLOVING **** ARE YOU EVEN 1% CLEAR, FROM ANYONE'S PERSPECTIVE?
because I'm posting how I post as a villager and my wolf game is nothing like this

you can't pretend to have never played with me
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05-04-2013 , 06:04 PM
Sun, you aren't making arguments. You're pretending to make arguments. It's a different thing. I deal with lawyers like this at work all the time, you cite nothing, you allege things that aren't real life, you assert that your position is strong, even cursory review reveals that you're a clown, and then I kick your ass up and down the courthouse steps, collect my attorney's fees from your client, receive awards of sanctions against you for wasting everyone's time, and sue you and your client for malicious prosecution, after which you cut a third check to settle that out.

****ing cite some posts, go find some evidence that makes some sense re: where you're at in this game. As far as I can tell you don't care about anyone else's role, you simply prefer to be "right" about me, which is impossible because (a) you're wrong and (b) you're probably a wolf.

Again, olive branch: find a wolf. At least try.
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05-04-2013 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
because I'm posting how I post as a villager and my wolf game is nothing like this

you can't pretend to have never played with me
This is so ****ing absurd. You're hard to read. There are no glaring distinctions between your wolf and villager games whether you want to try to wield that "argument" or not. The only difference here is you're at the ****ing dead bottom of your range, meaning the chances you're a wolf with a ****ty team are WAY higher than the chances you're just WOATing.
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05-04-2013 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
yeah but you don't, you think he's wolfy when it looks like you have some consensus about lynching him, when I point out oops, hey, actually he's WEIRD but not wolfy because of his EOD, you completely ignore that little revelation and instead vote me for pointing it out

"Seems legit"

we can do this all day, on the off chance you're a villager you're just stuck and forcing my hand by lying over and over and over again
I haven't lied about anything

if you think anything I've said is a lie, explain why

you're lying in every post you're making today

for example, in this post, you claim I voted you for pointing out something about remedys

you know that's not true

it's a lie even by WN's strict definition

why should me thinking you're a wolf stop me from thinking remedys is wolf?

what are you even talking about?
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05-04-2013 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Sun, you aren't making arguments. You're pretending to make arguments. It's a different thing. I deal with lawyers like this at work all the time, you cite nothing, you allege things that aren't real life, you assert that your position is strong, even cursory review reveals that you're a clown, and then I kick your ass up and down the courthouse steps, collect my attorney's fees from your client, receive awards of sanctions against you for wasting everyone's time, and sue you and your client for malicious prosecution, after which you cut a third check to settle that out.

****ing cite some posts, go find some evidence that makes some sense re: where you're at in this game. As far as I can tell you don't care about anyone else's role, you simply prefer to be "right" about me, which is impossible because (a) you're wrong and (b) you're probably a wolf.

Again, olive branch: find a wolf. At least try.
lol @ olive branch while pretending you think I'm a wolf

you're not getting out of this

I'll find your partner tomorrow or the next game day
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05-04-2013 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
This is so ****ing absurd. You're hard to read. There are no glaring distinctions between your wolf and villager games whether you want to try to wield that "argument" or not. The only difference here is you're at the ****ing dead bottom of your range, meaning the chances you're a wolf with a ****ty team are WAY higher than the chances you're just WOATing.
this is nonsense and doesn't even vaguely resemble reality
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05-04-2013 , 06:12 PM
hoya, if I was a wolf, why would I want to be the lynch?

that's definitely not in my "wolf range"
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05-04-2013 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
What it boils down to is this:

Sun's position: Hoya is wrong about SUn's role, therefore Hoya is a wolf.

My position: Sun's posts suck, his "reads," such as they actually exist (they don't, he voted counter to them for ~ all of yesterday), are fake, his arguments aren't even about this particular game, and his reason for trying to lynch me is ridiculous

You are losing this. Go find a wolf or something, maybe redeem yourself.
more lies

as I've stated many times, that's not my position
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05-04-2013 , 06:17 PM
because I'm already spewed too clear to matter so you don't CARE if you ultimately get lynched AND if you can get me lynched first, all the better

that's not gonna happen but it's obviously a freeroll to try
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05-04-2013 , 06:18 PM
oh and again you probably half believe you're peeked anyway so I don't really give a **** about your "strategery" here

anyway you know where I stand on everyone, I know where you stand on philosophy of werewolf and me, sort of, which is contradictory anyway

bad look son
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05-04-2013 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
liek you can't even be bothered to dig up your good posts or interactions

go find posts you made with pitch that make you pretty clearly not a wolf, we're all waiting very patiently
the fact that I didn't bus the **** out of him proves I'm not a wolf

case closed
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05-04-2013 , 06:20 PM
THEN HOLY **** HOW CAN I EVER BE A WOLF EVER EVER EVER
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05-04-2013 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
oh and again you probably half believe you're peeked anyway so I don't really give a **** about your "strategery" here

anyway you know where I stand on everyone, I know where you stand on philosophy of werewolf and me, sort of, which is contradictory anyway

bad look son
whether I was peeked or not isn't something for me to worry about

that's for you to worry about
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05-04-2013 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
THEN HOLY **** HOW CAN I EVER BE A WOLF EVER EVER EVER
what is this about?

and why are you posting in all caps?

can you rephrase this in a comprehensible manner please?
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05-04-2013 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
because I'm already spewed too clear to matter so you don't CARE if you ultimately get lynched AND if you can get me lynched first, all the better

that's not gonna happen but it's obviously a freeroll to try
no, I said I'll go first so that doesn't work

keep digging
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05-04-2013 , 06:23 PM
Do you know how many times I've d1 owned him now? It's like 4, I think.

On a related note, do you know what I do to bad wolves that I'm teamed with? I ****ing murder them as quickly as I possibly can because they are worse than worthless. They are proxy villagers who spew their entire ****ing team wolf or, in the alternative, screw me by getting lynched before I can even do anything about it. They foreclose like HALF the possible options in the game. If I'm on a wolf team with pitch he's ****ing dead the moment I see a problem with his posts. Same with a bunch of other people. I like them, but they're gonna die, and quick.

Here, I ****ing did that all day and then at the VERY end of the day he started posting reads and predictions about what to do about the future. That changed my mind.

WHY would I do that, ever? What's the strategic advantage to that?

You know the ****ing answer. Refusing to accept it is not helping me get the "right" read about your dumb ass.

Also nice angleshot re: quitting for a year. Fun little wrinkle. I'll tell you now I'm a villager so figure out which gimmick you're gonna break out if I actually am wrong.
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