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05-04-2013 , 04:50 PM
in any case, there isn't much point in arguing if you're not even going to make an argument

I'm fine being the lynch today but when I flip villager which everyone knows is happening, you are the lynch tomorrow

if you have a problem with that, you can't be confident I'm a wolf in which case, wtf are you doing?

put up or shut up
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05-04-2013 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
"You have no case" is essentially what I say to opposing counsel when they can't meet a legal burden, but there's no burden here. POE says you're still on the table as far as I'm concerned, and I can't find a post that makes me want to take you off the table. That's all the evidence I need.
But there are, presumably, other people that you can't eliminate from contention. Why are you focusing on sun, apart from the fact that the two of you are having an e-penis contest?
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05-04-2013 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
he did both the peek and the vote today
Then at least if we lynch him, we're not lynching the seer.
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05-04-2013 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
But there are, presumably, other people that you can't eliminate from contention. Why are you focusing on sun, apart from the fact that the two of you are having an e-penis contest?
VR, if you look back like 50 posts I posted my reads, I've eliminated all but 4 people from contention for today. We're past that part.

I could vote UAW, who just doesn't post. I could vote mets, and be miserable all day. I could vote you. I can vote Sun. Those are my options.
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05-04-2013 , 04:57 PM
The real reason I'm not voting mets is he has a couple posts that are so just flatout ridiculous that I don't believe he'd think what he was saying was compelling to villagers if he was a wolf. That's the only reason. His play so far is complete aids.
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05-04-2013 , 05:01 PM
So why sun rather than me? Not that I'm complaining, but I am curious to see your rationale.
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05-04-2013 , 05:02 PM
Because I have my strongest wolf read on him and I'm going with it, and in addition he's a wagon, and I think he sponged me on remedys because I was wrong and when I realized it he conveniently didn't say anything about that, instead voting me for voting him.

Oh yeah, also legend totally peeked him wolf yo.
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05-04-2013 , 05:03 PM
Also I'm giving you like 2 cents of credit for not being lame enough to fake rage twice in two days.
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05-04-2013 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
The difference may be obvious to you, but some of us lesser mortals may have a more difficult time with it.
as a villager:

I'm aggressive
I'm belligerent
I vote a lot of people for different reasons
I often vote off-wagon
I push a lot of people
I ask a lot of questions
I'm reluctant to clear people lightly

as a wolf:

I bus wolves
I push few villagers
I don't do things that people can't easily see the reason for
my vote is relatively static and isn't often used for pressure, jokes, etc.
I rarely vote off-wagon

those are a few examples if the kinds of differences

they all come down to one simple principle: villagers have limited information and are trying to solve the game and figure out people's roles

wolves tell people what they want to hear

that's why it's so stupid that people call things wolfy that villagers do in the process of solving the game (getting things wrong, pushing lots of people, "inconsistency", being wishy-washy, etc.

You can look at any of my wolf games and any of my villager games and see those things

my wolf and villager games are like night and day, which is why it's so stupid that everyone insists I'm hard to read

oh hey, look I'm getting a ton of heat for things I've done due to not knowing all the roles and trying to figure them out

nothing I've done this game is wolfy

nothing I've done this game matches how play as a wolf

everything I've done this game matches how I play as a villager

this isn't rocket science

it's not a coincidence that I get more heat as a villager than as a wolf

it's because people like to clear people for blending in and telling them what they want to hear and people like to push people for trying to solve the game
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05-04-2013 , 05:13 PM
VR, will you lynch hoya tomorrow when I flip villager?
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05-04-2013 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Because I have my strongest wolf read on him and I'm going with it, and in addition he's a wagon, and I think he sponged me on remedys because I was wrong and when I realized it he conveniently didn't say anything about that, instead voting me for voting him.

Oh yeah, also legend totally peeked him wolf yo.
whoa

how did I sponge you on remedys when I said it first, dip****?

you sponged me if there's been any sponging
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05-04-2013 , 05:16 PM
Nothing you've done this game falls remotely into the "solving the game" category, bro.

If that's true that's my bad memory.
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05-04-2013 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Noah
Votes from post 1083 to post 1349
Night in 1 day 09:00:56

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VotesLynchVoters
3 Charry Sun Tzu (42), well named (12), metsandfinsfan (70)
2 Sun Tzu Charry (22), remedys (21)
1 bhuber2010 vixticator (12)
1 remedys VoraciousReader (18)
4 not voting UAW710 (0), legend42 (48), CPHoya (2), bhuber2010 (16)
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
remedys while I continue my re-read

oh, also, there was other content I'd posted, he just didn't like it

anyone remember this:
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
remedys
Yep, turns out you're wrong.
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05-04-2013 , 05:20 PM
going to dinner but will bbl later to help hoya solve the game since me likied his posts in the last ~3 pages.
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05-04-2013 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
VR, will you lynch hoya tomorrow when I flip villager?
I don't know if I'm brave enough.

I was loudly wrong about hoya in my last game with him and was instrumental in his mislynch. I am very much aware that he is a skilled wolf though, so I definitely read his posts with an extra layer of skepticism.
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05-04-2013 , 05:28 PM
I expect no less, it's just that last game I got lynched solely because AT&T can't provide coverage to 15,000 new, unique users in Indio.

Still don't remotely understand how I get lynched in that game.
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05-04-2013 , 05:36 PM
these came before your posts, bro

nice try

apparently, you're not even reading the thread

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
this seems sketchy

posting more than usual based on what?

what does it mean that my posts are solid?

gtpitch is wolfy for being nice to noobs?

all of these reads seem made up in that the reasons given have nothing to do with the roles given and seem arbitrary
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
what makes you think one of me and hoya is a wolf?

what rules out v/v or w/w?

for your reference, "I think one of x/y is a wolf but I don't know which" is the #1 wolf tell in existence

there's pretty much no reason for a villager to ever think that except in cases of competing seer claims

also, "finding my posts wolfy" isn't very helpful

you'll need to point out specific things in specific posts to have a useful discussion
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
this is a wolfy reaction to being asked questions

pressure is only tough for wolves

villagers have nothing to hide
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05-04-2013 , 05:37 PM
If you want credit for not sponging me, why were you voting charry?

Also what changed anyway, did charry improve in your mind?

Also I can be a jerkoff and quote me about remedys from yesterday if you want.
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05-04-2013 , 05:38 PM
I has a minute.

I know I just got owned by sun in the last game but he seems like a pretty bad lynch here to me

he's more stereotypically villagery for him here than he was there. And I don't think I've ever seen sun get neck deep in one of these arguments about lying as a wolf. I haven't really read very much at all from today so maybe I'm missing something but I don't see him as being wolfy at all

I should probably read hoayaids but just the fact that he's wimming today kinda seems villagery :P
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05-04-2013 , 05:38 PM
Also wow, those are some hard posts. No idea how he could've handled that withering challenge.
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05-04-2013 , 05:39 PM
well then **** it, here

uaw

defend this dude
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05-04-2013 , 05:39 PM
hoya isn't villagery

he's playing misdirection games
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05-04-2013 , 05:41 PM
has anyone seen hoya act like this?
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05-04-2013 , 05:41 PM
Sun isn't even speaking english, I think he's pretty obviously the best lynch, STILL no one can point to good posts, and "misdirection games" is such an obvious example of someone having no ****ing idea what they're even talking about that it hurts me
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05-04-2013 , 05:41 PM
sun

I mean it's just dumb, he's so far out of his village range
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