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there's pretty much never a reason to think exactly one of two people is a wolf and not know which one

the only time that makes sense is with competing seer claims

why can't they be v/v or w/w?

wat?

I explicitly just said in my last post why I don't think they're v/v. I find it very unlikely that two people would have the exact same poor read.

And it should be painfully obvious why I don't think they're both wolves.

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04-28-2013 , 03:39 PM

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derm

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fwiw i just went over hubers wolfgame (link).
im kinda sleep deprived and i cant really concentrate fully but based on me skimmed his posts (day1 from p1-p9, he only posts up to p5. 20 posts) the difference between the games is that here he is actually making reads based on what people write, not what they intend to accomplish with what they wrote.
does that make sense?

anyways i think theres a difference which makes me lean at least slightly villa on him.

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04-28-2013 , 03:42 PM

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Sun Tzu

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Originally Posted by outdrawed

two people making the same bad read is very common

how do you know it's bad?

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04-28-2013 , 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

two people making the same bad read is very common

how do you know it's bad?

well obviously if it's not then everything goes out the window.

i personally think it's bad. i think it's bad because RG is a very easy target, especially d1. and he sounds to me like he has every other time he's been a villager.

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04-28-2013 , 03:52 PM

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also at the time i made that post, lkj was my strongest read. then ufo made his post, and I obv didn't think two wolves would be posting like that. things have changed, so I don't necessarily think they have to be v/w, although i certainly think it's fairly likely, but because UFO is my second lean.

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04-28-2013 , 04:00 PM

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Votes from post 1 to post 606
Night in 06:00:57
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
4	derm	Bremen (6), well named (41), LeonardoDicaprio (115), McAvoy (20)
2	bhuber2010	outdrawed (23), LKJ (87)
2	McAvoy	soah (46), Anarchist (13)
1	hardcoreUFO	RoundGuy (25)
1	outdrawed	Sun Tzu (36)
1	Bremen	hardcoreUFO (102)
1	well named	bhuber2010 (25)
1	unvote	derm (53)

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04-28-2013 , 04:11 PM

#608

soah

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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO

i'm pretty sure soah is a wolf though

bhuber is a good counterwagon

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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO

I don't see much value in pushing a villager as a wolf when the villager gets tunnely against people pushing him.

why would a wolf lock a vote on him? it's like pushing mets as a wolf. flat out bad idea.

back to back posts

the irony is overwhelming

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04-28-2013 , 04:12 PM

#609

Sun Tzu

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bhuber

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04-28-2013 , 04:14 PM

#610

soah

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haven't read past what I quoted, but I see from the vote count that Bremen never showed up again

worth noting that in the last game I played with Bremen, he was a wolf and got subbed out for disappearing and he was talking in the aftermath about how it was because he gets so anxious as a wolf that he literally becomes incapable of posting

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04-28-2013 , 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by soah

yeah he reminds me of his play in the uncle dolan game too.
im not in love with a huber wagon anymore soooo i guess for me its between roundguy and bremen.
lets start with some magic:

roundguy

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04-28-2013 , 04:16 PM

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outdrawed

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that's so bizarre. i obviously hate wolfing and i'm terrible at it, but i've never been that paralyzed with fear.

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04-28-2013 , 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by soah

back to back posts

the irony is overwhelming

I'm not a tunnely player at all, quite the opposite :P your comments are underwhelming

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04-28-2013 , 04:19 PM

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LKJ

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Confirmed, I was on Bremen's wolf team that game. It was the case even after d1 yielded another wolf lynch and everyone misread it as spewing Bremen lock clear. He still just sort of disappeared.

He said it'd be at work until night and specified that it was about it being the weekend, so I'd mostly rather we see what he's got for us tomorrow. That said, he can easily be a wolf here so lynching him probably wouldn't be terrible if we can't find something better.

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04-28-2013 , 04:20 PM

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(he'd* be at work until night)

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04-28-2013 , 04:22 PM

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we confirmed can't find something better.

I liked some of mac's more recent posting although it's nothing really villagery, but it's all those random questioning he likes to make as a villager so it reminds me of his villa game. also I always think mac is a wolf especially when he is not heh. I know soah won't go today cause of the whole unnecessary good player protection, so yeah I'd be leaning towards bremen/RG today. sun/annie didn't post enough to go either way, rest are villagery.

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04-28-2013 , 04:25 PM

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heres the thing tho, he was here earlier, just made a few alibi posts and got out again. then he came back some hours later, voted me gave some more "reads" and off he went again.
thats exactly what he did in uncle dolan. come in, make a few posts and off he goes.
and it was on page 4/5. there was content and people were itt when he was here. there was also no interaction from his side although both soah and hardcore quoted posts of him.

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04-28-2013 , 04:26 PM

#618

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yeah bremen is on my wolf list, but it is one of those things where it doesn't feel like the most productive d1 lynches

I feel fairly strongly that derm is a wolf. I don't really understand why anyone thinks he's a villager

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04-28-2013 , 04:27 PM

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UFO: the questions mcavoy is asking don't seem at all villagery to me

if he was asking questions that led towards wacky hijinx and or provocative theories about who the wolves were, that might be different

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04-28-2013 , 04:28 PM

#620

derm

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Originally Posted by well named

i really dont understand why you think im a wolf. care to explain?

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04-28-2013 , 04:34 PM

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soah

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oh yeah, Bremen did say he would be at work

but there was still a 5 hour gap in his posts where he could have been posting

meh

I don't like lynching someone with so few posts, but his few posts were really wolfy

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04-28-2013 , 04:35 PM

#622

soah

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Originally Posted by derm

i really dont understand why you think im a wolf. care to explain?

yeah I don't get it at all either

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04-28-2013 , 04:37 PM

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derm

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Originally Posted by soah

yeah I don't get it at all either

well i might understand some thin wolf lean for my slow start (although thats always the case) but he says he feels fairly strongly that im a wolf.
im looking forward to hear why.

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04-28-2013 , 04:39 PM

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Derm is more of a POE wolf than anything. Voted him earlier because he's posting a good bit but feels less involved. Nothing he's individually posted has pinged me hard at all though.