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04-27-2013 , 10:55 PM
or you can go back and re-read my posts and my explanations to you on this page right before I explained why I thought you were wolfy . did I not explain to you why my argument wasn't circular? then have I not explained to you why bhuber's posts about you do not resemble my posts about you at all? and how you can possibly compare both is beyond me. so yeah, I didn't need to show anything in my post about why I thought you were wolfy, because the explanation to why your posts are only superficially sound but lack any depth are all over this page.
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04-27-2013 , 11:06 PM
You never explained why you were making a read on me that ignored the possibility of bhuber being a villager, nor what it was about bhuber's post that was actually wolfy instead of just wrong.

Mostly you're just writing text bombs that make no sense, while I know that you are very capable of writing fluid and coherent essays as a villager.
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04-27-2013 , 11:09 PM
because there is no read on your role at that point if bhuber is a villager. it's a self explanatory statement. I don't see how any of this is hard to follow at all.

and I said around 3 or 4 times now that the wolfiness comes from the lack of suspicion. you can disagree with this all you want, but it's how I approach wolfhunting. how is this hard to understand? it shouldn't be. you're the one making it hard.
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04-27-2013 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO
because there is no read on your role at that point if bhuber is a villager. it's a self explanatory statement. I don't see how any of this is hard to follow at all.

and I said around 3 or 4 times now that the wolfiness comes from the lack of suspicion. you can disagree with this all you want, but it's how I approach wolfhunting. how is this hard to understand? it shouldn't be. you're the one making it hard.
He made a post to call me villagery.

You said his reason is bad, and therefore he shouldn't have me as villagery.

Then you said he's wolfy for not being suspicious of me when he shouldn't have me as villagery.

Since it is ridiculous for him to be suspicious of someone when making a post to call them villagery, your conclusion is absurd, and simply repeating it will do nothing to cover for the fact that you have offered nothing to bridge the gap from wrong to wolfy.
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04-27-2013 , 11:57 PM
omg

not having a suspicious mindset is wolfy IMO.

how are you failing to understand this? I'm saying he is giving way too much value to thin stuff. I am disagreeing with the read, but I'm going further and saying that the fact that he is giving too much weight to this is wolfy because it doesn't show a suspicious mindset. that's the kind of stuff I look at when considering possible wolves.

it is absolutely not ridiculous at all to be suspicious of someone you're giving a villager lean. if you're a villager and you don't know roles, you will try your best at weighing in stuff the best way you can and not simply put someone at the top of your villa leans for making a weak softpush on p2 or whatever. that lacks a suspicious mindset, feels like TMI and is therefore wolfy. it blows my mind that you're not processing this correctly, cause I'm not even being dubious here. lol
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04-28-2013 , 12:00 AM
Votes from post 1 to post 355
Night in 22:00:58

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3 bhuber2010 Sun Tzu (22), LKJ (69), soah (27)
2 hardcoreUFO RoundGuy (25), LeonardoDicaprio (84)
2 McAvoy well named (20), derm (25)
1 well named bhuber2010 (25)
1 soah hardcoreUFO (42)
1 derm McAvoy (9)
3 not voting outdrawed (0), Bremen (0), Anarchist (2)
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04-28-2013 , 12:01 AM
hardcore, when you make reads on people based on whether they are going with or against thread consensus, is that a wolf tell or a village tell for you?
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04-28-2013 , 12:02 AM
it's probably not a tell at all

I remember making these reads only as a villager though
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04-28-2013 , 12:03 AM
although I have a hard time remembering my posts as a wolf
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04-28-2013 , 12:05 AM
it's a villager tell for hardcore I'm fairly sure

or at worst null
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04-28-2013 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by hardcoreUFO
it's probably not a tell at all

I remember making these reads only as a villager though
Can you provide some examples?
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04-28-2013 , 12:16 AM
Apparently it's within hardcore's wolf arsenal to preemptively go after someone who looks like they might be suspicious of him, which is potentially helpful for deciphering his mind**** of an attack on me.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=279
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04-28-2013 , 12:17 AM
I feel like this game is going to be really hard on the wolves
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04-28-2013 , 12:18 AM
he made a terrible read there, vixt doesn't get clearer later on
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04-28-2013 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
I feel like this game is going to be really hard on the wolves
are you:

a) lamenting the fact that this game is going to be really hard for you
b) planning to contribute soon to making it hard on the wolves
c) both of the above
d) none of the above
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04-28-2013 , 12:24 AM
you had too much caffeine today soah
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04-28-2013 , 12:25 AM
that's not a peek
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04-28-2013 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by soah
Apparently it's within hardcore's wolf arsenal to preemptively go after someone who looks like they might be suspicious of him, which is potentially helpful for deciphering his mind**** of an attack on me.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=279
Sadly, it took me until now to realize that I really ought to check vix's role, and sure enough he was also a wolf.

So, perhaps not as relevant as I had imagined.
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04-28-2013 , 12:27 AM
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Can you provide some examples?
nah

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Originally Posted by soah
Apparently it's within hardcore's wolf arsenal to preemptively go after someone who looks like they might be suspicious of him, which is potentially helpful for deciphering his mind**** of an attack on me.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=279
what a ridiculous thing to search for lol. of course that's in my wolf arsenal. that's in everyone's range as villager and wolf to push people that push them. who meta reads like this? leo pushed me and is voting me, I'm not pushing him back. roundguy is pushing me now after I called him wolfy/douchey, I haven't responded. so what do we do with this irrelevant piece of information you were savvy enough to find? you can find thousands of examples of me pushing people after they pushed me in both roles, can't you? I'm not gonna search it cause it's completely irrelevant to look for stuff like this, because guess what, they happen all_the_time in werewolf games and you of all people should know that.

more importantly: does wolf soah use irrelevant meta to push people?
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04-28-2013 , 12:29 AM
ok just got home
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04-28-2013 , 12:32 AM
hardcore
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04-28-2013 , 12:32 AM
yeah let's just do that then
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04-28-2013 , 12:33 AM
hi annie, how's going

been a while
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04-28-2013 , 12:37 AM
anyone around that isn't voting me now? let's chat!
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04-28-2013 , 12:38 AM
hey bro
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