yes

btw in case you were wondering I'm in and out because I'm helping cook and I have company and etc etc

I'll be around all day tomorrow because I'm working

Im not saying I am wrong, I think I am right/definitely not flipping, I am just saying it would be ironic IF I was wrong because my logic for "clearing" him as more likely villa would be based on a complete fallacy.

Maybe I haven't read closely enough, but I would say the odds that bhuber is a wolf here are like 1%, maybe?

actually, nah, it's 0%

you seem to be struggling with keeping your thoughts even remotely consistent right now fwiw

yep, I am totally steaming right now because you pegged me as a wolf 24 hours before EOD and I feel the need to defend myself righteously

consistency is the hobgoblin of bad wolf hunters

nah I don't even mean that

it's just that your logic is hard enough to follow that people will just lynch you out of confusion if anything. at least that's how I'd figure out the situation. IDK if the posts you made now are wolfy... I think the one with soah is very wolfy and then the explanations are just plain weird, you know?

WN is probably a villager

first wolf lean: mcavoy

Seems like circular reasoning going on here? Quote a guy calling me a villager and say it's wolfy because he doesn't seem suspicious of me?

I see an accusation of using wrong reasoning, but with a wolf accusation attached to it which doesn't work.

it's not circular reasoning when what I'm saying is the lean is 'weak' and shows lack of a suspicious mindset. nothing in what I wrote even resembles circular reasoning IMO

Votes from post 1 to post 338
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
3	bhuber2010	Sun Tzu (22), LKJ (69), soah (21)
2	McAvoy	well named (20), derm (25)
1	well named	bhuber2010 (24)
1	LKJ	RoundGuy (24)
1	hardcoreUFO	LeonardoDicaprio (84)
1	RoundGuy	hardcoreUFO (35)
1	derm	McAvoy (9)
3	not voting	Bremen (0), outdrawed (0), Anarchist (1)

I could write a bit more about this I guess? if player x gives too much weight to pretty thin stuff and follows it with very weak reasoning to say player z is probably a villager, that shows lack of a suspicious mindset, which villagers are supposed to have.

sounds like your posts about me

I didn't give too much weight to anything about you. I'm pointing stuff out while recognizing it's all pretty thin. if you look at how I established my leans in the last page, you're the thinnest one I have. so no, it doesn't sound like my posts about you at all.

also have you just abandoned the 'cirular reasoning' argument to attack something else about my posts?

lol so lkj is a villager

hilariously different from last game

I'm really suspicious of superficially-sounding logic that doesn't hold any true at all to a careful observer. saying my post about bhuber sounds like circular reasoning only makes sense if you don't know what circular reasoning means. then not following that up but rather completely changing the argument to push me for giving too much weight to thin stuff when I blatantly didn't do that looks a whole lot like a wolf setting up a scenario where a villager gets mislynched. your push is nonsensical and weak. it's also lacking a follow up as it was before with bhuber (which is why I said your push is only good if bhuber is a wolf). I don't like any of this and you sound pretty wolfy to me.

soah

I'm struggling to find any reason whatsoever to think hardcore is a villager.

While he seems like he's "working", all I really see are facetious arguments, innuendo, theoretical implications, and in my case, I'm just "wolfy" and "unfun" to play with.

hardcoreUFO

I'm speechless. This post is a work of art.

I'll take this as a compliment (I did lynch a wolf 3 nights in a row in my first game as villager, thanks though).

Its not hard to follow. You people are just "picking" it apart on that basis that it is "thin" when in reality, its even thinner that you're pushing me for it.

Hi and bye.

The greatness of this post really deserves a line-by-line breakdown.

1) I'm really suspicious of superficially-sounding logic that doesn't hold any true at all to a careful observer. -- all rhetoric, no content

2) saying my post about bhuber sounds like circular reasoning only makes sense if you don't know what circular reasoning means. -- nitpicking on the terminology used even though I explained exactly what my issue with the post was

3) then not following that up but rather completely changing the argument to push me for giving too much weight to thin stuff -- continuing to refer back to the same short excerpt from one post is "changing the subject" apparently

4) when I blatantly didn't do that looks a whole lot like a wolf setting up a scenario where a villager gets mislynched. -- more hollow rhetoric

5) your push is nonsensical and weak. -- more rhetoric

6) it's also lacking a follow up as it was before with bhuber (which is why I said your push is only good if bhuber is a wolf). -- yet following up on bhuber and hardcore is the only thing I've been doing in the thread recently

7) I don't like any of this and you sound pretty wolfy to me. -- more rhetoric


All in all, wow.

It took me 30 minutes just to unshake myself enough to conquer that post.