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yeah i noticed the "gtfo out" thing after i posted. wtb post edit.

anyways you cleared me pretty fast for making admittedly the same type of reads last game, but now you are saying you don't know wtf i'm doing.

i don't get it, though i think you are villagery on tone.

You came off very differently to start that game than this one. I mean I couldn't very well lynch you at this point in time but I do think you're coming off much stranger. Or maybe we're just disagreeing about a lot more. That would help explain it.

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04-27-2013 , 09:22 PM

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roundguy and leo are villagers

bhuber is a wolf

everyone else is somewhere in between

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04-27-2013 , 09:22 PM

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i think we pretty strongly disagreed about most reads until we joined forces to crush a wolf at eod.

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04-27-2013 , 09:23 PM

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well named frozen

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04-27-2013 , 09:23 PM

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Your response to soah was incredibly wolfy. Bloating up a MQ for a supposed read of WN as well. And the timing all looks very shook.

"Literally nothing" indeed.

I suppose its kind of interesting that you pushed what it is that I said about WN to the side, as if you're certain is isnt true... The timing it is what it is...and @ my response to soah being wolfy: it makes absolutely perfect sense

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04-27-2013 , 09:24 PM

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i think we pretty strongly disagreed about most reads until we joined forces to crush a wolf at eod.

Meh that isn't how I remember it. I mean I admittedly disagreed somewhat with your argument all of d1 that I was nearly a lock wolf, but I don't know who else we were far apart on.

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04-27-2013 , 09:24 PM

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I like LKJ as my top villa lean no peeko. then I think WN/derm and then leo, who would be higher if wasn't progressing weirdly with his leans through the thread. I still can follow his logic, but I'm starting to disagree with pretty much 100% of his posts, so :|. still on villa pile though.

I think soah's push of bhuber is good because bhuber is progressing pretty wolfy here, and I know soah has a tendency to protect wolfbr0s on d1. I also think his posts are kinda villagery of him considering our history together.

RG wolfy for the reasons mentioned, and bhuber as strongest wolf lean right now. no leans on anyone else.

I'm off to watch people hitting each other, bbl

Why is this only analyzing the scenario in which bhuber is a wolf?

Also, what does our history have to do with anything related to my posts? Almost all of my posts were before you even showed up.

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04-27-2013 , 09:25 PM

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lkj is definitively right about leo.
last game he went out of his way to compare players posting to their previous games and put a lot of effort into mqs etc about that. a lot of big posts. in here we havent seen any of that. he was also more aggressive iyam.

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04-27-2013 , 09:25 PM

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What you said about WN may very well be correct, even if you're a wolf.

Your reaction to soah was a deeply shaken one. You wanted no part of any dialogue with him.

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04-27-2013 , 09:26 PM

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Meh that isn't how I remember it. I mean I admittedly disagreed somewhat with your argument all of d1 that I was nearly a lock wolf, but I don't know who else we were far apart on.

derm, tehvader

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04-27-2013 , 09:27 PM

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What you said about WN may very well be correct, even if you're a wolf.

Your reaction to soah was a deeply shaken one. You wanted no part of any dialogue with him.

In my only game as wolf, the only person I talked to all game was a wolf...

lol..

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04-27-2013 , 09:28 PM

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derm, tehvader

Oh yeah. Well the Vader disagreement was just blind luck on your part because you were conditionally calling him a villager on the basis that I was giving him heat. That isn't a disagreement with actual substance or foundation.

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04-27-2013 , 09:29 PM

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Why is this only analyzing the scenario in which bhuber is a wolf?

Also, what does our history have to do with anything related to my posts? Almost all of my posts were before you even showed up.

to 1) it's only good when bhuber is a wolf, but I felt like saying it. I know conditioning on d1 SOD is bad but people can just take my post for what is worth. 2) you can change 'our history' with 'my meta with soah'. I had v/w and w/w games with you and you behaved in an overrall more serious manner, especially at the start. it didn't feel that way here, so it's worth mentioning.

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04-27-2013 , 09:29 PM

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What you said about WN may very well be correct, even if you're a wolf.

Your reaction to soah was a deeply shaken one. You wanted no part of any dialogue with him.

Oh I see what youre saying now, I misinterpreted it the first time...

but no, I will dialogue with you, or him all day long if your heart so desires

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04-27-2013 , 09:29 PM

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true, but the fact that i called you a lock wolf would constitute a pretty big disagreement in the first place. it renders your contention that we were more on the same page that game basically invalid.

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04-27-2013 , 09:31 PM

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Oh I see what youre saying now, I misinterpreted it the first time...

but no, I will dialogue with you, or him all day long if your heart so desires

Okay. Hypothetically you're a villager. Someone who you haven't played comes at you and you just immediately assume they're a villager without interacting with them at all? What in your experience causes that reaction? Why didn't you wonder at all about what he was?

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04-27-2013 , 09:32 PM

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leo, I don't like your new avatar

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04-27-2013 , 09:33 PM

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leo, I don't like your new avatar

i'm gonna switch back, i just made this when i was looking for troll ones to give vmf and felt like trolling.

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04-27-2013 , 09:34 PM

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Okay, well perhaps we weren't. I'm not one to give out wolf points when someone makes a silly push on me. In that game your arguments seemed sincere. In this game they're pinging me as not being as sincere. You're taking concepts that I know you use but in my eyes misapplying them pretty liberally.

The "maybe it's that we agreed more" was just an idea, but probably isn't it. Believe me, the fact that I was able to easily clear you in that one and am having a hell of a time in this one is troublesome to me too. That's...sort of the point.

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04-27-2013 , 09:34 PM

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I did wonder what he was, thats exactly why I said I think he's villagin, im probably wrong but it was my gut read. I am pretty sure vyk came at me at F5 as well as a villa and I felt the same way because it felt like he would pretty much have to be an idiot to start a wagon on me and get me mislynched last game without drawing any attention.

I was actually slightly bitter last game that no one would interact with me pretty much whatsoever until F5 because it forced me to try and figure out the game based of inconsistencies alone (like vix's odd voting in the face of what he had been saying the day before).

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04-27-2013 , 09:36 PM

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"You're probably wrong?" Why do you say that now?

Also, in general you would say that you just assume that those who push you when you're a villager are fellow villagers?

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04-27-2013 , 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LKJ

What you said about WN may very well be correct, even if you're a wolf.

Your reaction to soah was a deeply shaken one. You wanted no part of any dialogue with him.

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In my only game as wolf, the only person I talked to all game was a wolf...

lol..

Your attempt to refute what he's saying actually seems to strengthen his point instead?

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04-27-2013 , 09:39 PM

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Your attempt to refute what he's saying actually seems to strengthen his point instead?

not if he knows that well named is really a villager

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04-27-2013 , 09:40 PM

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"You're probably wrong?" Why do you say that now?

Also, in general you would say that you just assume that those who push you when you're a villager are fellow villagers?

You're official driving me nuts; and yes, I feel like wolves for the most part dont really push people around (obviously this is a vast generalization) but why go out of your way to push people around/make people vindicitive/reactive towards you when you can just lurk around/agree with villagers that think other villagers are wolfy. Wolves dont generally tend to start wagons IMO unless its near EOD and they are grasping at straws/trying to get another train going to avoid getting lynched and/or a villager has said something ridiculously wolfy that the rest of the village is going to pound them for anyways.