4/22 A Lion King/Aladdin X-Over Vanilla+ Game Thread - Page 128

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

sometimes

but a lot of the people playing really badly are likely villagers

kruze, however is not only playing badly but is also very likely to be a wolf

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

th10 seems like a good option

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if you could choose someone to take that bullet for you (the lynch), who would you choose?

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vix, you had me on your wolf list earlier

why was that and do you still feel that way?

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yeah, I'm vaguely distrustful of him but he's not a priority suspect to me and I'm almost always suspicious of him anyway

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this seems unnecessarily defensive

people are going to criticize reads, especially when they have terrible reasoning like "they would have asked in wolfchat"

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kruze, why not vix?

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here's someone else making the exact same read for the exact same bad reason

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alright

hypothetical scenario:

I'm a wolf

the wagons are a 1-time wolf vig who's been wolfy and someone else

what are the odds I vote the other wagon late?

check your answer vs the key below

Spoiler:

Because as a wolf he does do this **** where he drones on about how impossibly out of his wolf range he is, and he says it for ridiculous reasons. So I guess that's one post I don't like. In the big picture he looks good to me.

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04-24-2013 , 01:51 PM

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How many wolves are left?

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04-24-2013 , 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by vixticator

Slow start, hard to defend my vote unless vader is a wolf.

Insanity's wedding part II please.

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04-24-2013 , 01:52 PM

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Four, SIU.

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04-24-2013 , 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LKJ

This feels like a fairly worthless exercise (so I don't think I quoted everything possible), but on request these are posts that if you click through them to see context you'll find are all made in the interest of solving the game, and were agreeable to my mindset as well.

If I were to find one wolfy post from Sun, it's this:

Because as a wolf he does do this **** where he drones on about how impossibly out of his wolf range he is, and he says it for ridiculous reasons. So I guess that's one post I don't like. In the big picture he looks good to me.

It's not hard to make thread consensus reads as a wolf, or to pretend to do work for that matter.

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04-24-2013 , 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadarene

glad to hear the product of my 100s of hours of work and thought are something that people will eventually "get over," though

People love to be butthurt tbh, most entertaining dvc I've ever been part of for sure.

Feel a bit sad for SYF though, poor guy summoned some wim at the wrong time.

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04-24-2013 , 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gambit8888

Vix,

You are the main wagon today. Any thoughts?

RIP me

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04-24-2013 , 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Willi

Sry. I promised to reveal a sheep and it is again CL day. So I am going to dissaper soon. Read some Gad posts again. He says I am one of the most likely wolves, but same time says i read him wrong every game. Makes lot of sense for sure. Why care about how wolf is reading you?

Fundamental Theorem of Werewolf. I explained this once already today.

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Originally Posted by LKJ

Four, SIU.

Vix/Sun/TH10/derwipok

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04-24-2013 , 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ShipItUp

It's not hard to make thread consensus reads as a wolf, or to pretend to do work for that matter.

Much of what he was doing wasn't really thread consensus stuff. Commented on zoltan first which is a divided issue, threw TH10 in as a candidate for the vig mix (which I'd briefly forgotten but appreciated), commented on an earlier post from gambit that had concerned me also, etc.

He wasn't just blending in with consensus. And I think his questions were with purpose. Anyway, it's just my read.

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04-24-2013 , 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by vixticator

RIP me

Vix

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04-24-2013 , 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Willi

Starts there pretty much. I made my first post and he voted me for that and here it goes:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1685

I'll give this a look now thanks.

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04-24-2013 , 01:56 PM

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Alright vix, you say you read everything from yesterday. Surely you have thoughts to share.

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04-24-2013 , 01:57 PM

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Agree to disagree.

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04-24-2013 , 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TehVader

People love to be butthurt tbh, most entertaining dvc I've ever been part of for sure.

Feel a bit sad for SYF though, poor guy summoned some wim at the wrong time.

the sad part is, he was exactly the right person to be alive at endgame to win things for the village

if he armors ChrisV, ChrisV can't convert anyone that night

and if anyone tries to lynch or nk ChrisV on d3, d4, d5, d6, or d7 (which, since they already knew he was converting people, they really should have tried to do at some point), they learn the bodyguard mechanic and make him an actual priority

sigh

I can't believe that a game where the factions were 3-2-2 at f7 and where each had a colorable chance to win if they'd taken different actions is being called broken and a joke and the worst game anyone has ever played

it ****ing tears me up

/tangent

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04-24-2013 , 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Willi

I am here now. Will catch up and do some other stuff at same time so it will take some time.

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Willi

Gad why did you vote Willi for that?

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04-24-2013 , 01:59 PM

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thanks for that post, LKJ

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04-24-2013 , 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ShipItUp

Gad why did you vote Willi for that?

because I reread things over the night and came to the conclusion that he had made only the barest effort to be gamesolvey and instead was coasting along the way I think he'd be more likely to do as a wolf, because villa Willi enjoys figuring things out

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04-24-2013 , 02:00 PM

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I don't think Willi is a wolf due to pushing KruZe over me, everyone who did that deserves major points even though KruZe was vanilla.

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04-24-2013 , 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by vixticator

I don't think Willi is a wolf due to pushing KruZe over me, everyone who did that deserves major points even though KruZe was vanilla.

who are your current wolf leans?

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04-24-2013 , 02:02 PM

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Vix,

Who do you think are the wolves?

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04-24-2013 , 02:03 PM

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What wolf games have you seen him coast in?

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04-24-2013 , 02:03 PM

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Anyway, I'm off to watch CL again (at least this time I didn't pop in to say it so TN can't tinfoil too much)

Hopefully Dortmund wins and derwi comes back drunk and outs himself in celebration