Game Rules

• The entire game is one game day only. Townsfolk have one chance to lynch a Wolf. If a Wolf is killed, Townsfolk win. If a Townsfolk (excluding Deviant) is killed, Wolves win.
• For the purpose of some game mechanics, players are sitting in a "circle". The player list posted at the beginning of the game will represent the order in which they're sitting. Some roles are dependent on player positions.
• Voting is done privately. Voting can be announced ITT but the only votes that will count at the end of the game is whatever you PM me.
• Wolves do NOT have Wolfchat
• Any two adjacent players can whisper together. Both parties must agree. Both parties must PM the mod with their intentions to whisper. Once confirmed by the Mod, parties are free to use "outside communication" for the duration of the game. Once confirmed, the Mod will announce the two players that have engaged in Whispering in the game thread.

Townsfolk Roles:
Villager: Can appoint a ringleader. Ringleader gets an extra vote. All Villagers must agree on a Ringleader or none will be appointed. (Activate)
Gossip: Over time, learns a possible role for two random players. At least one of which must be true. (Passive)
Watcher: Can learn two possible roles for a single player, one true and one false. (Activate)
Tracker: Can listen for Wolves on one half of the table. Tracker "leans" to one side and will hear if there is a "growl" to his/her left or right. (Activate)
Saint: The Saint automatically learns the identity of a Wolf at the start of the game. However, if all of the Wolves vote for the Saint at the end of the game, the Townsfolk lose. (Passive)
Houndsman: The Houndsman can sniff adjacent players and learn their roles. (Passive). Both parties must be engaged in whispering beforehand.
Astrologer: The Astrologer looks to the stars and learns of a Role that is definitely in play. (Passive)
Drifter: The Drifter knows of two roles that are not in the game. (Passive)

Wolf Roles:
Wolf: Knows who then other Wolves are (not the Turncloak). Can sniff adjacent players and learn their roles. (Passive). Both parties must be engaged in whispering beforehand.
Turncloak: Knows who the Wolves are, but counts as a Townsfolk. Wins with the Wolves.

Neutral Roles:
Deviant: The Deviant wins only when he is killed


Definitions
(Activate): Your role must be activated and your target sent to the Mod sometime before the end of the day (if you wish to use it).
(Passive): Information gained by your role will be sent automatically to you by the Mod


Win Conditions

Townsfolk: Win only when a Wolf is killed
Wolves: Win when a Townsfolk is killed. Also win if all Wolves vote for the Saint, even if a Wolf is killed.
Deviant: Wins only if he is killed

Today's Game:

These are the possible roles you can see in today's game:

Deviant
Drifter
Gossip
Houndsman
Saint
Tracker
Turncloak
Villager
Villager
Wolf
Wolf

This is the player list, sorted in their seated order:

1. iamnotawerewolf
2. well named
3. iraisetoomuch
4. ihcjay
5. Donat3llo
6. BenjaminAO
7. JMurder3
8. housenuts

Roles being sent out now

Game Open

Please "Ready Up" via PM when you are ready to vote. (Your vote does not need to be locked in at this point)

G'morning everyone. I'm actually a villager this time with like actual information & such.

It's not that exciting, though.

We should make sure we coordinate when deciding what active information to acquire...I think I would have been screwed last game if that had happened.

coming in and calling us out for last game already?

I think we did a perfectly fine job of coordinating information, we're just green

Anyway, yes I generally agree with you
lets be proactive about what information to share/not share as I think some is more beneficial than others

I just want to make sure we learn what we can from it. Ben made a very sensible from an interaction perspective viewing of wn, but from a mechanical perspective it would have been more correct to use the info on someone from the tracker's wolf side.

If that was used on me or house, I think we would have been screwed.

Waddup kiddos, lettuce lynch a wolf. I will do my best to keep the village on the right path.

I'm not trying to be mean, I promise. The other thing is, we need to make sure we put down saint cover. Imo there was literally only one person who could have been the saint last game, & even that required some tinfoil.

Hmmm I guess.

But it would probably be strictly better to use it on house then, as you were hard claiming Saint or Wolf, and outting you as the Saint would auto lose for the village.
Getting the possible roles of house would have less downside.

Well, yeah, because you knew that you couldn't be the Saint.

I think that I did a decent job of not outting my role last game, and could have very easily been the Saint.

But obv we're all giants in our own minds. lol

If I'm the tracker then there is a wolf in: benAO, jm3, housenuts, ianaww

If I am the saint I received a pm saying: jm3 v

I actually tried to allow some deviant or saint protection into my range, but it was thin.

The person with the info on whether I was the saint would be a villager & I would expect them to use the info correctly to not spew. But yeah, house would been optimal.
If you were the saint you wouldn't have been so open to whispering early on. I did think waiting a bit on bread's claim would have been optimal if you were concerned about outting your role... once everyone was in the thread & no one counterclaimed is when there was no more real reason to think he wasn't telling the truth. The best I could muster as to why I wouldn't was a "Go on..." haha.

If I am the tracker there is a wolf in
ihcjay
Donat3llo
BenjaminAO
JMurder3

If I am the drifter then the houndsman and the tracker aren't in the game

If I am the Saint, then ianaww is a wolf

If I am the gossip then either ianaww is a villager or jmurder3 is the saint

If I am anything else I received no information ldo

Feeling good about irtm and jm3 thus far, feel like they would be less active as wolf in this setup.

If irtm is the tracker, I feel good about jm3 and I know I'm a villa, so could be wolf in: Butta toast and benAO

One thought I had of what might be a cohesive plan. All of this is premised on the role actually being in the game, but obviously not all might be:

Houndsman claims.

Wait to ensure no counterclaim.

Tracker sniffs to that side.

Houndsman whispers with two people next to him. Refusing to do so is a hard wolf/deviant claim at that point.

Everyone else spews as little as possible unless they have info that could potentially help the team.

Btw, people should not leave saint cover saying who they believe the wolf is if they are the saint. Only the wolf knows if that person is right or not, & a saint hunt gone right is game over, so having opinions in that form isn't helpful imo.

The best way to cover for the saint imo is to keep our roles open unless there's a strong reason not to & to make our thoughts on who the wolf might be known.

The reason I was able to eliminate xander as the saint is that I read through all his posts & he literally never stated an opinion on me, & wasn't trying to push people off house & toward me.

I can't imagine jm3 being this helpful as a wolf/deviant/TC esp given the way that he played last game.

Seems pretty clean to me.

Remember, the wolves know who they are, & if there's only one actual wolf, they know that, too, so important to consider the wolf perspective & what looks one way to us might easily look different to them.

Yeah, I feel like I learned a lot from being on that side, & I want to make sure everyone else village-sided gets clued into that perspective.

I actually think it might be why I'm so bad at finding wolves in regular games... don't talk know how they think.

I didn't spew my thoughts post-game last time in case I had to wolf again. Fortunately, not an issue.

I'm out for a while. Got some studying to do.

Don't talk know? Don't really know...

I liked how we started last time. Had it narrowed down to me or JM being wolf. Village failed. Let's not failed again.

If I'm tracker, I'm looking left, ie. at ihcjay, Donat3llo, BenjaminAO, JMurder3