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Originally Posted by dorian78
Ninja'd by some explanation, but I already have this typed and feel I should post it anyways. I have been trying to think about what lynching bhuber would tell us now that he's given us more to work with. It's been tough for me, and I'm still trying to draw conclusions about it. Do you mind discussing it further with me, or is that just feeding too much info to one of your top suspects from your perspective?
My down and dirty summary of bhuber since he came back:
pushes Banks, which is not what I anticipated
at first says road looks bad, changes his mind after reading everything, then defends him pretty hard
thinks that, if he's right and road is town, the 2 mafia are probably in the rest of the poe (me/Riki/Banks)
thinks that Riki and Banks are better lynches than me today
otherwise barely mentions anything for or against Riki
You're saying that, if bhuber is mafia, you think he did the obvious thing and the people he put at the top of his lynch-list are town and the ones at the bottom are more likely his teammate? I'm not sure if I agree with that or not, but I definitely don't see why him flipping mafia makes Riki, who he practically ignored today, any more or less likely to be his teammate.
The basic logic, if I'm simplifying it down to a thought or two, is that before bhuber said a word it was clear the lynch order was road, dorian, and then him or bhuber at 3 and 4. In this scenario if both him and riki are wolves there is no reason to make a single noise because therr are two rounds for someone, anyone, to fall down and get into the top 4 over one of them. If ANYONE does, the wolves win. (Assuming riki and bhuber). There is no reason to make a stink if the other wolf is "above" hum on the suspicion list. Because if it's above him, even if he dies, riki is next and wolves win with three mislynches.
Why make a stink then? There is no reason if it's those two. Makes zero sense. It makes riki and bhuber an almost impossible combo. Now let's say just rhuber is wolf. Why make a stink? Bevause the other wolf is beneath him. You or road. Bevause in that case he desperately needs people to get below him on the list. Not even to win (that would be nice) but to just actually pull some small strategic victories out of a losing scenario. This game is about winning the strategic victories, more than the actual end game victory. I believe who moves on is voted on by who played the best. That is an amazing play even if he eventually dies. To bring himself from mid game elimination to end game player in one argument.
I try to figure a reason for Bhuber's argument without him being a wolf. Why would he attack road and then just back.off and go full force on banks. Why say that "if road is a wolf, banks definitely is. But if banks is a wolf, road definitely is not" (paraphrased) A tautology that requires us to kill banks no matter what but possibly spare road. A HORRIBLE bit of strategy given road is the highest likelihood of lupine DNA. I can't wrap my head around Bhuber's argument being legit because he not only goes swinging against a guy with a weaker argument for wolf than him, he actively defends the guy with the most evidence against him and creates a line if logic that if followed will defend a highly suspicious player and require lynching a less suspicious player to exculpate the more suspicious one.
Spark notes: his argument makes no sense to make, especially the way he made it, unless both him and either dorian/road are wolves OR he simply has zero strategy and really hates banks and is willing to name terrible arguments defending the #1 target in order to go after someone with questionable guilt. And IF bhuber is a wolf, drawing attention to himself make absolutely zero sense if his partner had less suspicion than him.