Slendy is such a spammer.

lets mix it up and have some fun. Hit me with a list. I want to know where you're at. I'm asking for a friend.

So I read the mega thread for this and saw dorian's windy as **** confirmation post. I kinda want to revisit my read on him because I thinking he is the most likely scum until literally just now. Maybe thats just how he talks.

Don't you dare try to combopost your way to Post-leader, Doggy.

My 3 X 3

Town:

Slendy - I just like how he defended himself yesterday. He hadn't been posting and really did a bang up job of coming in and laying out a really good argument, something he continues to do today with Ratchet. His argument swayed me to not only take my vote off him, but go against what was my gut (saying Bomb...which was wrong...) and listen to him.

Achro - Not sure where the mistrust is coming from. I don't see it at all. He is still doing a solid town job for me. I played with him last time and he was very aggressive towards me (we had...words...over a player I was hammering on but more on that later) but I finally understood his style just a day late because I was night killed. Still pings town to me.

Banksy - I haven't seen anything today but I can appreciate his agressive style, especially EOD. Not sure where his defense of Ratchet came but it was so Town. AKA, I have never seen Scum be that defiant. Maybe I am being tricked and if so, I'll bow down to his mastery. But for now? I am unconvinced that he's that good. Town.

Mafia:

Ratchet - I believe you are mafia and should be our main target at EOD. I stopped overthinking things and re-read what Slendy said yesterday. Still convinced.

Dorian - I think there is mafia on the Smartbomb train and since I can eliminate Cue and I already gave my feelings on Banksy, we have Ratchet (see above), Riki, and Dorian. Then I asked him to do a 3 X 3 - he really didn't do what I asked, just posting reads, almost as he was going down the list and just listing people off in separate posts.

Then he posted:
He would shoot Ratchet, most hesitant about him, and I got no read about Ratchet. Out of all of them, he didn't list the one I think is the scummiest. So....I think he hasn't figured that one out. Could be honest, but I am feeling it is scum.

Road: This is my weakest of the three and the one I struggled with the most but I have to put three in. Road could be switched out with several but I hate the Cue vote. I hate that he stuck to Cue. The Cue votes bother me that towards the end, Cue wasn't getting voted. It was Bomb or Ratchet. So we had three players stay on Cue. Fonti I will excuse for the moment (but just for the moment) and Doc I feel just wansn't on...I dunno. Again, WEAKEST of the three right now but I am forced to choose 3.

To Disney World - I am sending Slendy. Enjoy yourself!
Bang Bang - Ratchet.

@Dorian - I need you to just send one and just shoot one.

Please and thank you!

@Riki - can you do a 3 X 3 for me?

Did we come up with a consensus for who cue's peek was?

Lol what do you think about the EoD?

No I haven't done the reread on it yet. I'm worried by the way people are talking that its a bit ambiguous which sucks but I'll do a full dive from home.

What do you think about the EoD?

I'm going to spend some time doing something that I wanted to do yesterday. I'll be doing it on the side while staying in the thread.

MSU my 3x3 atm:

Kill Doc, bhuber, ratchet. No order or preference (also hope you and road are standing behind them)
Save: Riki, fonti, achro. This is in preference order.

Bhuber when did you say your activity is picking up?

Awwww - standing behind them when you kill them so the bullet hits us as well or standing behind our own 3 X 3.

cue didnt leave a peek - and definitely not an explicit one - I fairly heavily scrutinized his posts so I would surmise he was killed based on feels (he talked about the cop on numerous occasions and also alluded to the fact that he might die early in the game).

tomorrow afternoon around right now (4-5pm est)

tonights my last night of work so once I wake up tomorrow ill be here for the rest of the phase/game day - whatever y'all call it

I look forward to it.

Can you talk to me about hte wagon formations EoD? Have you had a chance to snag a reread?

Thanks for the Ratchet-vote, MSU.

So now that you tell me you're so swayed by my arguments that me-Ratchet occupy the opposite ends of the green-red spectrum for you, mind telling me how this progression of yours from the last minutes is NOT opportunistic?

Also please tell me what is this post a response to?

Well, I think that's pretty unfair to be honest. I often will point out scumtells, even when I don't personally think it's that discussion worthy. I find then when scum tells pile up, they become more concrete scum reads, and I think establishing what I find scummy and what I do not find scummy is pretty important for what to expect from me this game.
I think if you would look over previous games of mine, you would find it is definitely a playstlyle thing.
It was more that I found their logic made sense. Whether I particularly agreed with the finer points or not, I liked the way they argued their points and I could see it as genuine. Nothing great for a townread, but I have stressed they were only really slight after all.
For that to be correct, I would have to play differently as Town, no? Again, if you would look back through previous Town games of mine, which I am happy to link here, you would find that it is a playstyle thing.
To be fair, I don't particularly have the chance a lot of the time. Like, there are points I've discussed here, like with Doc, where the discussion fettered out because we were at the end of it. Often though, after making the initial point, the first response is what I'm interested in the most, rather than taking up the thread on a relatively small point.
I don't think that's fair either. Posting for the sake of posting, to me, is posts that have no substance. I'd say observations and opinions are substance enough.
A big part of this is that I spent a good portion of last day phase catching up. When you have 100-200 posts to read up on, even when posting frequently on what I see, I'm going to make one or two large posts that go through the motions discussing what has happened. Aside from that, I don't really have anything to say on this point.
Well then we define pressure differently. I define a pressure vote as a vote intended to see a reaction from a player, to put a little pressure on them. This is done through jokes, randomly, or even disguised as an argument, early on Day 1. Again, you will see this reflected in the community meta of OPB. In effect, I consider an RVS vote to be pressure, and that is what I was getting at by describing it as such.
I'm pretty sure I have said twice now that if I agree on something, chances are I wont respond to it unless I see the need to do so. So no, I was content with your elaboration and saw no further need to push it.
This isn't a point I can defend against then. I can hardly argue what you interpreted it as, after all. All I can say is that this is simply how I post. I post this way regardless of alignment, or at least I try to anyway.
Maybe, but I was arguing whether it really applied to me at all. I don't see how I conveying that I was insulted in anyway, which was your point there.
Disagreed heavily. I think there is far more to consider for the lynch as Town. Mafia are generally content with the mislynch, they'll want a non-vanilla or negative role, but the mislynch is the most important bit. For town, it's the information this lynch gives out, more than the end result itself even. That's how I see it, at least.
Generally speaking, yes. But looking at Cue's play, what did his lynch give us information wise? Very little, because I found his play very hard to interpret. I also had a nagging feeling he was on my scum list for his playstyle.
Partly. I think he dealt with the end of day quite poorly, and I don't think i did particularly great there because, admittedly, I struggled to follow all the developments and defend myself in the tiny window I had. I found I was more posting the first ideas coming into my head than having a chance to roll them about in there for a bit. I don't like doing that. I like to take my time, and not be rushed.
Because I was never willing to vote for self-preservation for the sake of purely saving myself at the expense of town. Even I offered more information as a lynch than cue, and I believe I offered very little given how relaxed I played for a good part of the day. I never claimed I should look great either, I do think it is a point in my favour though.

Yeah like you later concluded the possibility is very real that no definite peek should be assumed as it's a very real possibility that cue just seemed like a Cop.

My brain tells me that Achro is Town, though my Heart feels some fear.

I don't find the Bomb-wagon condemnable per se, I even considered switching myself, but if Ratchet were to flip red it would be mighty interesting.

Font took a backseat but something I don't remember what exactly made me consider that a slight Towntell.

MSU is the only one who really seemed opportunistic/most fitting of Scum-behaviour, excluding Ratchet who we need to learn how to read. MSU/Ratchet prooobably not knowingly co-aligned, that would've been quite a sneaky/ballsy bus by MSU if that were the case.

You still seem Town but that is not based on the EoD.

I find it quite plausible most of the Scummers simply weren't online.

Dorian/MSU(/Ratchet) most likely Scummers from a purely Wagonomics-PoV. Liked Dorian today, though.

Why bhuber?

This is scummy. For starters, why are you discussed End of Day already - we have all day to discuss and reflect on arguments made, and yet you seem happy to funnel the Day without any apparent interest in what I have to say in defense. Not like you've offered anything for me to actually defend myself against, though. The reasoning comes across as quite lazy as well - "I just went back and did my u-turn because I found out I agreed" is awfully convenient for you. Especially when you first claimed that my posts "didn't feel wolfy", then you decided, when it looked like I may actually be lynched, I offered the most information, and now today that's suddenly gone to "I think you're Mafia and you should be our lynch". When we're not even 12 hours into the day yet.

Sorry, MSU, but real life is real life, and yes, my thoughts on Ratchet came last because he's by far the one I'm most conflicted about.

Ratchet: Both of us pointed out yesterday that we'd hardly interacted with each other, and it's because we generally agreed with each other. Ratchet was doing exactly what I wanted to be doing and wasn't doing well. Slendy thinks it's a playstyle used more often by scum, and maybe that's true on this forum, but it's not true where I come from, at least in the early game. If it's day 3 and you're still doing it, that's a problem. I was happy to call him town, cause he'd done nothing scummy.

When push came to shove, though, Ratchet's responses under pressure were a very mixed bag. He definitely seems to have a personality that doesn't respond well under fast pressure. He tried to deflect the lynch by asking for more detail on why he was worth voting and trying to get lynch choices/reads from other people. As Banks put it

Both tactics are great when there's plenty of time, but when there's so little time left, they do sound like "how can I save myself?"

Today, he's posted a thorough argument on Achromatic, and I've already said I agree with many of the points. Most of his points rely on Slendy being mafia to make the case for Achromatic, though, and I don't like that. So I'm not sure that the points make Achromatic that scummy, and if they do, they do so for different reasons than he's pointed out.

I'm hugely conflicted here, because I can now see Ratchet easily as either affiliation. In the end, he was my third pick to shoot because he's now in the bottom half of my list, and his flip gives a ton of info about the voting yesterday. My forum has gone back and forth over the years about whether lynching the second place person from day 1 on day 2 is good or not, and it's still a tough decision.

I've always read bhuber as pretty town. He just hasn't posted enough for me to want to change it. I don't know if I'd say top town - that list wasn't meant to be in any kind of order. In fact...

Save Slendy, Shoot Doc. I hate picking someone to shoot who real life has kept away as much as it has, but there were a lot more people supporting/pushing on him than on road, and the small scumread on him has been the one I've had the longest.

I think his play has been scummy so far. I synced with him early but it could have been a buddy attempt as I was easily the most vocal player when he arrived. His interest in EoD was minimal but he was working so I'm kinda holding off on that. I want to see how he reacts when he is able to be around.

You seem to be in self defense mode. This is the first solvey post I've felt you've really made today. Can we have more of this and less of the wall of text fights with slendy where you attack every point.

road