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Old 06-16-2015, 03:37 PM   #776
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

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WHO IS GOING TO BE HERE FOR END OF DAY AKA 3.5-4.5 hours from now?!?!?!?!?!

This sort of thing is important to know!
People who don't suck and will be here at EoD:
1) TehBankertin
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:40 PM   #777
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Smartbomb - I do however think that smartbomb could be scum based upon the points of him pointing out he hates people "being right" which you wouldn't know if someone was right unless it was exactly on yourself. I feel like scum say this a lot its kind of a new scum catcher but he I think is being honest that his scum game is below average.
Didn't Smartbomb say the "being right" thing about Dorian's read of him?

I'll be around until the deadline.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:40 PM   #778
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People who don't suck and will be here at EoD:
1) TehBankertin
2)cue5c (on a van and sometimes there are rough patches with internet, but I'll try.)
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:41 PM   #779
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Fine as in think he is town.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:43 PM   #780
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is that what "being right" means?

pretty weird thing to say
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:43 PM   #781
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i should be here for at least the last 2 hours before deadline
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:45 PM   #782
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I think so fonti. I don't think all three my scum reads are wolves But I think there is 2 scum in there a lot.

I am off to work. BE around in 30.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:49 PM   #783
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##vote: Slendy

Final answer let's do it.

Also I'll be around for deadline.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:49 PM   #784
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MSU: bhuber2010 (16), RatchetOPB (49), Riki (101), SmartBomb (37), TehBankertin (161)

Jeez, how did I not notice this earlier? We've got three strong town (Banks, Riki, Smartbomb) and a lean town (RatchetOPB) on one lynch. I'm going to pick between bhuber and MSU.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:54 PM   #785
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##vote: Slendy

Final answer let's do it.

Also I'll be around for deadline.
Slendy

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Old 06-16-2015, 03:55 PM   #786
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So I have a method of town detection that I like to employ. It's not... wholly accurate but I like to think of it as my first layer of thought process to start to piece together the game. Scum will, a decent amount of time, trip it false positive and town sometimes do a false negative but it's a starting point.

I was isolating posts looking for these small things and I kept finding them until I got to Slendy, where I didn't find any real genuine game solving from him. He said stuff, did things, but I couldn't really feel his town presence. So I think we should kill him and see how he bleeds.
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Old 06-16-2015, 03:59 PM   #787
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I prefer something a bit more up my alley, if you don't mind.

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Old 06-16-2015, 04:01 PM   #788
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4 MSU bhuber2010 (16), TehBankertin (173), SmartBomb (37), RatchetOPB (50)
2 cue5c fontisian (60), DocEspana (25)
2 SmartBomb dorian78 (23), Riki (131)
1 dorian78 Slendy (19)
1 bhuber2010 MSU (32)
1 Slendy cue5c (108)
1 not voting road (47)
1 Error Achromatic (47)
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Old 06-16-2015, 04:02 PM   #789
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Up, be on in a few.
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Old 06-16-2015, 04:02 PM   #790
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Slendy

I broke the counter it seems.
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Old 06-16-2015, 04:11 PM   #791
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MSU: bhuber2010 (16), RatchetOPB (49), Riki (101), SmartBomb (37), TehBankertin (161)

Jeez, how did I not notice this earlier? We've got three strong town (Banks, Riki, Smartbomb) and a lean town (RatchetOPB) on one lynch. I'm going to pick between bhuber and MSU.
Having read absolutely nothing of fontisian up until I left off yesterday, I just wanted to point out how this is a very superficial way of justifying a vote.

(i.e. using 3 town "leans" to plausibly justify a vote on two people. If banks, riki, and smart are all villagers, and are simply wrong, about MSU/bhuber, its a super easy way for a mafia to justify landing is his vote on a townie).

Its just so gross.
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Old 06-16-2015, 04:13 PM   #792
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Didn't Smartbomb say the "being right" thing about Dorian's read of him?

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is that what "being right" means?

pretty weird thing to say
I think he first used it in reference to me "being right" about his opening post being a null. He said he didn't like it when people were right and nothing else, but he seems happy with me being right once I've done something else that gave him a townread. He later says that everything I've said is right, which is weird. I mean, I know I certainly hadn't put strong reads out there at that point, but saying I'm right is a weird way of agreeing with me.

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Like, he's [Riki's] been both right and strong the entire game and I really like that, generally I don't like people who are right but his... tone, while doing so, I guess, doesn't read scum to me. I think he's the towniest guy in the game so far, might even go over Banks.
He says the same thing about Riki later, even more emphatically, but it's unclear what Riki's been right about. Also everything? If so, even weirder.

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Dorian - I actually really hated his push towards smartbomb. I think it was over explained and too wordy. I feel like he isn't having an impact in the game.
Smartbomb - I do however think that smartbomb could be scum based upon the points of him pointing out he hates people "being right" which you wouldn't know if someone was right unless it was exactly on yourself. I feel like scum say this a lot its kind of a new scum catcher but he I think is being honest that his scum game is below average.
Banks thinks I'm too wordy? That's an achievement right there. So do you think I'm bussing SmartBomb, then?
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Old 06-16-2015, 04:13 PM   #793
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

Okay i'm in the thread now, and i will be up to eod, a bit on/off.
I've read most of the posts, skimming some of the long posts, as i was reading from mobile when time was fine to it.

@Banks> Ye, eod is not perfect for my timezone, however i have changed my schedule a bit, so i can participate in a long stretch up to eod - the tradeoff was not being online (in a online-to-write kind of way) since i last posted.

I can see someone wants me to interact, so I will ofc prefer that. From my pov it seems like all the cases on ppl so far are not very convincing, but im going to evaluate when reading more in depth.
Since last posting i have fonti as villager, but while reading up i forgot why. gotta look back. Think it was something with her stream of thoughts.
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Old 06-16-2015, 04:13 PM   #794
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Its basically takes absolutely 0 of what I have posted/MSU has posted and justifies a vote based on where three towns have their vote - its a 0 accountability vote (as we like to call them on 2+2).

I realize I wont have enough time today to likely catch up AND cover everything I want to so I'll probably start by ISO'ing MSU quickly since he has a lot of votes now and its unlikely I'll be here for EOD.
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Old 06-16-2015, 04:13 PM   #795
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Having read absolutely nothing of fontisian up until I left off yesterday, I just wanted to point out how this is a very superficial way of justifying a vote.

(i.e. using 3 town "leans" to plausibly justify a vote on two people. If banks, riki, and smart are all villagers, and are simply wrong, about MSU/bhuber, its a super easy way for a mafia to justify landing is his vote on a townie).

Its just so gross.
How likely do you think you're wrong about MSU?
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Old 06-16-2015, 04:14 PM   #796
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Having read absolutely nothing of fontisian up until I left off yesterday, I just wanted to point out how this is a very superficial way of justifying a vote.

(i.e. using 3 town "leans" to plausibly justify a vote on two people. If banks, riki, and smart are all villagers, and are simply wrong, about MSU/bhuber, its a super easy way for a mafia to justify landing is his vote on a townie).

Its just so gross.
Yeah, I get how you would want to disparage voting analysis when it looks bad for you.

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Old 06-16-2015, 04:16 PM   #797
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How likely do you think you're wrong about MSU?
Literally 0 idea aorn, I constructed my post about him based on first instinct off his first 3 (yes 3) posts. He has 32 now.

First instinct is just that. 32 posts is slightly more objective so it goes without saying I'd like to look at the whole picture quickly.
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Old 06-16-2015, 04:16 PM   #798
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Its basically takes absolutely 0 of what I have posted/MSU has posted and justifies a vote based on where three towns have their vote - its a 0 accountability vote (as we like to call them on 2+2).

I realize I wont have enough time today to likely catch up AND cover everything I want to so I'll probably start by ISO'ing MSU quickly since he has a lot of votes now and its unlikely I'll be here for EOD.
Psshh.

I believe that there is zero chance that five townies are voting on a town, and I am acting on my strong townreads. You're really trying to claim that's "0 accountability"?
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Old 06-16-2015, 04:16 PM   #799
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I actually thought it was quite the fair point by bhuber. Reacting voting like that is even more gross tbh.
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Old 06-16-2015, 04:17 PM   #800
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His point is terrible. Vote analysis is an vital part of my play, and dismissing it out of hand is disgusting.
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