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Old 06-15-2015, 11:54 PM   #551
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

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other than his cue read
probably that I moved road off my scum list.
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Old 06-15-2015, 11:54 PM   #552
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Out to lunch.

Some things you might wanna know:

cue5c I slightly like, like a centimetre away from null due to gut read. IDK why everyone's reading him scum

I still haven't got a read on fontisan after 35 posts and that's concerning. Like, any sort of read. Town or scum.

I do like dorian in case it wasn't obvious for the record

I still don't like MSU, the reads on Achro and Doc don't actually state why they're town, bhuber's a very simple read, what happened to Riki...? Just the third vote thing that flipped him from one of your townreads to scumreads? An easy standby? Like I've heard of this and I know people believe in it but it's such a weak reason for someone who you were calling town before

Doc irritates me because I have a feeling I'm not going to be able to catch him this game due to timezones and he hasn't said anything of substance yet.

road I've made my points and is like cue except a centimetre on the other side, pending reread of third game

MSU now that he's back and I still don't like him
I stated why on Archo - did you miss it?

On Doc, I wrote it, then decided to look for a post, saw that Banksy was getting angsty, responded to angsty, and now saw that you are getting angsty.

Sigh.
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Old 06-15-2015, 11:55 PM   #553
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

leaving work be back on in 20-30
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Old 06-15-2015, 11:55 PM   #554
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reread of third game
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Old 06-15-2015, 11:57 PM   #555
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On Doc - you know how you read something that someone posts and you get a town vibe that you can't describe? He comes on, says what he believes in, mocks the people for going meta on the "I'm glad I'm a villager" posts. Yeah - those were strong posts to me because he stated what I was feeling about it.

Yeah, that is how I feel about doc.

You know how I feel that Riki hasn't really stated a reason for his vote except pressure and then really couldn't fully explain it? That is why I gave him a scum vibe.

Riki

I'm off to bed and will revisit you all in the morning.
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Old 06-15-2015, 11:58 PM   #556
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This is the post on road that I like that cue made earlier. I agreed with it. I can't remember who asked tbh.
which part did you agree with?
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Old 06-15-2015, 11:58 PM   #557
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Why does a town sounding post=town to you? Unless Villalist is like.... villain and list together. In which case I'd probably agree. Then again, I don't really understand Dorian's play or thoughts on good play. I tend to make my mafia play incredibly different from my town play so that it's obvious and when I flip my reads are useless. And then Dorian mentioned someone viewed him as town so the most logical response would be to view that person as town, too? This early? I find people on completely different wavelengths than me tend to be town, especially early on when mafia can slip left and right with no one picking it up until late game.

So: road
Banks, what part of this post do you agree with?

We've got :
1. A bad argument against Road.
2. A nothing read on Dorian.
3. A joke about his scumplay.
4. A complete misunderstanding or misrepresentation of what Dorian wrote (he said the natural thing would be to townread someone townreading him, but that he wasn't.)

Riki: I'm basically only with Banks on townreading you and Achro (and even that's just an dissociative read).
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:00 AM   #558
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You know how I feel that Riki hasn't really stated a reason for his vote except pressure and then really couldn't fully explain it? That is why I gave him a scum vibe.
i mean that is literally why i voted you
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:02 AM   #559
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the only other thing i had i repeated to you in my explanation

i think i explained that part well although that was pretty thin and not my primary reason anyway

so i'm not sure i get your problem with me past the 3rd vote part
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:05 AM   #560
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Riki, what would I have to bribe you with to get you to vote for cue with me.?

Like, it's ridiculous that a lot of people null read him and agreed with my pressure and yet here I am, voting alone.
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:05 AM   #561
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Riki: I'm basically only with Banks on townreading you and Achro (and even that's just an dissociative read).
do you have a read of msu?
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:07 AM   #562
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yea i could vote cue

i want to look at his posts again though first

i'll probably do it after looking at msu's last game
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:08 AM   #563
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i agreed with pretty much all of your post above btw except maybe 1)
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:10 AM   #564
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do you have a read of msu?
I do not.

What's your issue with point 1?
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:13 AM   #565
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there was a guy in game 4 who was pretty obsessed about someone voting and putting another guy at L-1
Which was a whole misunderstanding thing about there not being a majority lynch. He became an easy target because of miscommunication and being MIA, at least one of the mafia voted for him for awful reasons, and then I had a scum read on them all game. Pretty sure they made a 3rd vote on him close to end of day 1 for awful reasons.

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i'm kind of curious, why is being the third vote on a wagon such a big deal on your site? like is it actually that big of a deal that that would be the biggest reason for you to lynch someone at this point in the game, and not something else like content related

also, at the bolded, i thought you thought i was town for doing that?

i'd probably be ok with voting like any of msu/doc/cue if the day ended now

i have kind of gone back a bit on my read of you, i don't think anyone really agrees with me so i might have just been making too much out of something small
Well, it's not as big a deal as I'm making it out to be. But I feel a bit like I'm floundering with all the rest of my toys (roles) taken away, and it's one of the few things I have left. It's also (obviously) more informative after the flip than before. Sure, it's easily manipulated, but it works sometimes (see above), which is all you can really ever say about most scumtells.

The bolded part - my brain says it's a town thing to do, but having never been through anything quite like it before in any game, it's a harrowing experience, and I'm having to make sure I don't let my dislike of that color things.
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:19 AM   #566
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msu

is there a reason you didn't make anything out of being the "3rd voter" in your previous game but you do in this game?

like there is literally a point in day 1 of your game where JJJ asks you for your opinion on a wagon that got three votes very quickly and you just respond with "yeah i agree that guy is kind of suspicious" and move on
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:19 AM   #567
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This is the post on road that I like that cue made earlier. I agreed with it. I can't remember who asked tbh.
fonti already beat me to it, but I also don't see what in there seems so town-like. The vote for road seems only half-explained at best. road was townreading me, and cue was also townreading me at least a little, so what did road do that was so suspicious to Cue? I honestly chalked at least half of that post up to just being part of the jokey persona that Cue started with.

And with that, I'm off to bed. Here's hoping I don't have another 300 posts to catch up on in the morning.
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:22 AM   #568
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I do not.

What's your issue with point 1?
well actually i'm not sure it falls under your first point but his first sentence is probably like the only part of his post i agreed with

i said something similar to road, i think that dorian's slendy read is a -ev read to make as mafia but i don't think the fact that he made it makes him town, let alone like top of villalist villagery as road called it
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:23 AM   #569
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Which was a whole misunderstanding thing about there not being a majority lynch. He became an easy target because of miscommunication and being MIA, at least one of the mafia voted for him for awful reasons, and then I had a scum read on them all game. Pretty sure they made a 3rd vote on him close to end of day 1 for awful reasons.
i pushed that lynch pretty hard so let's not talk about it

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The bolded part - my brain says it's a town thing to do, but having never been through anything quite like it before in any game, it's a harrowing experience, and I'm having to make sure I don't let my dislike of that color things.
you should listen to your brain imo
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:24 AM   #570
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msu

is there a reason you didn't make anything out of being the "3rd voter" in your previous game but you do in this game?

like there is literally a point in day 1 of your game where JJJ asks you for your opinion on a wagon that got three votes very quickly and you just respond with "yeah i agree that guy is kind of suspicious" and move on
uhh disregard this

didn't see that you were the third vote
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:26 AM   #571
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> insert *gasp third vote!?!?* here
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:29 AM   #572
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so msu's regular day 1 site meta is to no lynch usually

probably something useful to know
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:31 AM   #573
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well actually i'm not sure it falls under your first point but his first sentence is probably like the only part of his post i agreed with

i said something similar to road, i think that dorian's slendy read is a -ev read to make as mafia but i don't think the fact that he made it makes him town, let alone like top of villalist villagery as road called it
Huh. I saw it as cue going after a non-native speaker for a wording issue.
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:34 AM   #574
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You and I have different playstyles. But thank you for pointing it out. I am not here to impress you, truly.

You put all your stuff out there in an effort to gain trust. You play fast and loose.

I am more calm and calculated with 20+ hours left.

But I kill Riki. I didn't like his vote, and I didn't like his explanation he just gave above for it. What are you pressuring me for? we have 20+ hours.
It is so easy to make the posts you're making as a scum. You need pressure no matter how far from lynch we are. I understand different playstyles but I think I have a different style to everyone here based on post count alone I'm chatting and interactive. I go hard when I need to it doesn't seem like you're doing that.

Your using this to try to kill wolves and pressure people:



When you should be using this:

I think scum tend to go with option a to option b.
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Old 06-16-2015, 12:38 AM   #575
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upside, night shift is starting to slow down and I can begin actually reading the thread.

downside... >500 posts. This will be fun.
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