Originally Posted by bhuber2010

Also, you guys should read road's wall of text about me now that I found it in ISO. If I was road mafia bro, I doubt he'd go through the hassle of justifying a SUPER thin villager read of me in this way. Like he basically finds the most ******ly thin spots and calls them villagery (because he has TMI of my role).

Originally Posted by bhuber2010

also @doc, perhaps you need to reconsider whatever strategic value you think you see in lynching me (cause LDO I know there is none but its my job to help you see that).

1) not sure what/if any/logical deductions you can get from my flip either way (like I am trying to see things from your POV).

- it appears to me that you think riki will somehow be cleared from me flipping mafia (which he wouldn't really be cause he is hardly even pushing me...if you give people that much credit when they're hardly pushing people, thats probably a mistake to begin with).

2) not sure what you get by me flipping town other than a wasted lynch (i guess your logic is that if we're going to mislynch, it may as well be me since not much is lost).

3) I think you/and pretty much everyone are heavily, heavily discounting plausible wolf teams based on d1 interactions (i.e. ive seen many people (not you in particular) bring up that riki/dorian cant be mafia based on their interactions).

Given, I actually havent gone back and read them myself but from a general strategic POV, discounting possible wolf teams based on d1 interactions is generally really terrible/awful/horrible way to play. d1 is like literally the easiest day to interact with your mafia bros. Its like the exact easiest day to bus/say all sorts of nasty **** to one another/vote eachother,etc. The village has like 13 possible lynches, it goes without say that you can probably say just about anything to a wolf bro and the village will end up going another route/lynching someone else entirely.

(plus riki voting dorian (and banks too)) really means absolutely nothing if dorian were to flip scum because it was in a way where dorian was literally in no danger of being lynched (cause his wagon got no traction)...not saying riki is scum or anything (i havent even really filtered his posts yet) - just saying its strategically poor to elminate mafia combos based on d1 in general.

Originally Posted by bhuber2010

I do have reasons for thinking it is fonti AND reasons for not thinking its you.

Primarily because of your interactions with rachet. If you go back and look at his filter with you (which I doubt you will but if you want to try and see things from my perspective, sure), rachet spends a fairly considerable amount of time conversing with you. He also attacked you in a few of his earlier posts.

Interaction with mafia bro's is a fairly critical portion of the game, but most scum dont do it enough. They also dont usually take the time to do line by line quotes and address small portions of text with other scum brothers because they're usually too busy addressing/replying to town and/or trying to build cases against other town members to appear as if they're game solving.

I havent finished ratchets filter/ISO yet (its what I am currently reading). His interactions (on the first 10 pages) with road were very short/narrow/curt...etc.

Its not an infallible read (I havent honestly even filtered you yet as I am working with the more objective information at the moment, but I'll get to that shortly as well).

(I have iso'd fonti (last night while thread was closed) for what its worth).

Originally Posted by Riki

fonti

you said you townread smartbomb because of his op or something like that right?

Originally Posted by Riki

at some points early on you said you didn't like banks because you disagreed with his reads, and then you said you had a light town read on road after 3 posts, one of which was him casting light suspicion on slendy, and you said you townread him for that post and for basically having the same read as you, even though you reached that read in a different way (afaict)

a bit later smartbomb makes a reads post that disagrees with like at least 2.5 of your reads and you don't say anything about it


well i haven't read far enough to see your next post about smartbomb so i don't have a real conclusion to this post

but yeah the above seems kind of strange to me, especially if you didn't have other reasons for townreading smartbomb

Originally Posted by Riki

can you explain what you mean by the bolded

Originally Posted by Riki

why did you think it was genuine?

Originally Posted by Riki

fonti

what is your stance on bussing as mafia

like do you tend to bus a lot or defend your teammates a lot

Originally Posted by fontisian

Bhuber, why does scum!font hard bus road for two Days but not bus or save Ratchet, the scum that's actually going down?

Originally Posted by fontisian

Second, Bhuber, I want you to answer this for reasons. Please do that.

Originally Posted by Riki

list of things that bhuber hasn't elaborated on yet:
- why he thought banks was the lynch when he entered the thread on day 3
- his stuff with the peeks
- his townread of road on day 3

Originally Posted by bhuber2010

There is literally no point in asking this question/or me answering it.

You both bussed road (well one of you did).

Neither of you voted ratchet.

So your point, whatever it is, is moot.

Originally Posted by bhuber2010

- i liked his case on banks

Originally Posted by bhuber2010

@riki, i have literally no idea where you're going with the whole logic parallel

you didnt really explain anything whatsoever other than to underline some sentences