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Old 06-27-2015, 12:36 AM   #3026
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

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i'm really self-conscious of myself (and of my team, i don't think that would be called being self-conscious though) as mafia
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he's been pretty self-conscious throughout this game (i called him out at one point for saying stuff like "i know you'll think i'm scummy for this" several times, when he made those types of posts ~zero times in his previous champs game) and if he were mafia with me he wouldn't make his strange treatment of a partner of his as blatant as that
I actually called him out for the self-conscious bits. I don't think that he ever leaves you out by accident if you're mafia.
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:37 AM   #3027
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

Damn, you got called out immediately.
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:45 AM   #3028
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Can you elaborate on this?
the part in brackets?

basically, something that happens a lot when i'm mafia is that i see a teammate post something, and i think that town is going to see what they posted as scummy (probably tmi bias since i have information that that person is mafia, since they're my teammate)

so i sometimes call them out so that i can do it before someone town does so i get the credit

a bunch of the time the town wouldn't have even noticed or called my teammate out so i just rekt my own team

iirc this happened in the game i linked, i had a teammate who afk'd for most of day 1, when he came back i thought his posting was terrible so i put him on my scumlist but a couple of the more vocal town thought his posting was decent and left him alone which caught me by complete surprise

basically, i end up bussing my teammates a lot out of tmi, it hasn't happened this game i think

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I actually called him out for the self-conscious bits. I don't think that he ever leaves you out by accident if you're mafia.
i mean he didn't make a town and mafia list

he made a "preferred lynch list", and a "less preferred lynch list". he didn't list his townreads. he didn't put me on either of those lists, but he mentioned me in a separate sentence at the end of his post that was something like "oh yeah, i'd also be ok with a riki lynch" iirc. which, given his play this game, i think he does ~never if i'm his teammate
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:48 AM   #3029
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

And you calling out Road Day 2 doesn't fall under overreacting because?
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:49 AM   #3030
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

Did you have any better scum games than this one?
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:50 AM   #3031
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

Also, were you under time constraints in that game and only able to catch up in bursts?
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:54 AM   #3032
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Did you seriously think Riki and I wouldn't notice that you popped out of the woodwork to call me scum the moment I said I was leaning towards you?
Frankly I dont really care.

You calling me scum and voting me vs me calling you scum and voting you achieves exactly the same outcome.

Except the part where if you're mafia, I get to vote back with 100% accuracy and the town probably has a better shot of winning.
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:56 AM   #3033
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And you calling out Road Day 2 doesn't fall under overreacting because?
i mean like the posts that you consider scummy from him started way back in day 1

i'm not saying that everytime i vote mafia it's because i'm mafia and i'm bussing them lol
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:56 AM   #3034
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

What the **** am I supposed to do here bhuber? I can't live with myself if I lose to you when you're not even trying and I can't stand the idea of being the losing vote. I don't understand what you're doing.
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:57 AM   #3035
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i mean like the posts that you consider scummy from him started way back in day 1

i'm not saying that everytime i vote mafia it's because i'm mafia and i'm bussing them lol
Ok.
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:58 AM   #3036
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Did you have any better scum games than this one?
probably not

i can link more games if you want though but i rarely roll scum and my play in general is probably noticeably different if you go back more than a few months
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:00 AM   #3037
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What the **** am I supposed to do here bhuber? I can't live with myself if I lose to you when you're not even trying and I can't stand the idea of being the losing vote. I don't understand what you're doing.
I am not trying any less than you. You're trying because you've been here since earlier in the day when I wasnt available?

Dont take some high road and act like you've been carrying people this entire game.

Please.

We have 49 hours. Chill. Out.
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:01 AM   #3038
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Also, were you under time constraints in that game and only able to catch up in bursts?
i was a bit more busy for that game than i was for this game, i had one or two exams near the beginning of the game but otherwise it should've been normal

if you're talking about the multiquotes, i think that was the last game that i used multiquotes while catching up
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:02 AM   #3039
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

i dislike where this game is heading
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:02 AM   #3040
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I am not trying any less than you. You're trying because you've been here since earlier in the day when I wasnt available?

Dont take some high road and act like you've been carrying people this entire game.

Please.

We have 49 hours. Chill. Out.
Your response to me was "lol." Seriously.
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:03 AM   #3041
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i was a bit more busy for that game than i was for this game, i had one or two exams near the beginning of the game but otherwise it should've been normal

if you're talking about the multiquotes, i think that was the last game that i used multiquotes while catching up
I saw the multiquotes without any definitive direction as a scum tell in that game. It's one that has absolutely not shown up here.
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:04 AM   #3042
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

I was lol'ing because there hadnt been a post in two hours and just as I was about to say hi, both of you had new posts in the thread.

Not because you called me scum.
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:05 AM   #3043
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Oh. Sorry.
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:05 AM   #3044
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

I'm going to sleep and calm down for a bit.
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:05 AM   #3045
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

bhuber

if you think the mafia is fonti, do you have reasons for not thinking it's me?

like, you might have talked about me in a total of one post so far in this game
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:14 AM   #3046
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

I do have reasons for thinking it is fonti AND reasons for not thinking its you.

Primarily because of your interactions with rachet. If you go back and look at his filter with you (which I doubt you will but if you want to try and see things from my perspective, sure), rachet spends a fairly considerable amount of time conversing with you. He also attacked you in a few of his earlier posts.

Interaction with mafia bro's is a fairly critical portion of the game, but most scum dont do it enough. They also dont usually take the time to do line by line quotes and address small portions of text with other scum brothers because they're usually too busy addressing/replying to town and/or trying to build cases against other town members to appear as if they're game solving.

I havent finished ratchets filter/ISO yet (its what I am currently reading). His interactions (on the first 10 pages) with road were very short/narrow/curt...etc.

Its not an infallible read (I havent honestly even filtered you yet as I am working with the more objective information at the moment, but I'll get to that shortly as well).

(I have iso'd fonti (last night while thread was closed) for what its worth).
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:15 AM   #3047
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

I havent gotten a chance to iso road yet either so there's that too. I'll get to that, probably some voting analysis (mostly just the first 2 days as I think those are the most useful)...and then re-read rachet/road again. Generally I think its almost easier to read spew from dead mafia than it is to try and deem who is the last mafia just based of the two remaining players posts - they're just too easily manipulated.
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:17 AM   #3048
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

fwiw i think the line by line stuff is just the way that ratchet argues with people

it's just that me and slendy later on in day 2 are the only people he really argued with for an extended number of posts in this game
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:17 AM   #3049
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

Although obviously I'll probably be reading both of your posts as well. A lot of what is talked about at must lynch is super manipulative in nature (even by town players because they're trying to covince others to vote elsewhere). Since that sort of posting can be mis-interpreted, I try to dwell on whats already been said since there is probably already enough information in the thread to make a logical/correct choice. It might be wrong in the end, but I think its slightly less prone to error then falling for emotional appealaments at lylo.
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:18 AM   #3050
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

Bhuber, why does scum!font hard bus road for two Days but not bus or save Ratchet, the scum that's actually going down?
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