I'm having trouble quoting the Banks post to respond, so let's try this.
First off, I did make several points against Cue:
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That's unfortunate.
You're not doing anything. You fluff, and post jokes, and coast off of people liking you on a personal level. I get it, and if you hadn't made that scumtell, I probably would have never voted you toDay, but come on man.
The DosEspana thing is the only bit of logic you've actually given, and instead of actually following up on it, you stated trying to flatter Achro. I'm not even sure if your road vote is real or a joke. Even when you expressed suspicion of me and I gave you a chance you a chance to substantiate it, you did nothing.
I find that good players will drop hints as the best ways to correctly scumread them. You've done so here:
You believe that avoiding attention the main fights and not taking the blame for town lynches is a good way to play mafia. This is also exactly what you're doing.
Sorry Cue. I like you, but I'm going to lynch you.
Bhuber: Have you considered explain /why/ you think MSU is a "wolf."
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Riki, what would I have to bribe you with to get you to vote for cue with me.?
Like, it's ridiculous that a lot of people null read him and agreed with my pressure and yet here I am, voting alone.
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I think cue switching on Slendy shot the moon for scumminess.
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Ok. We're back to lynching Cue.
They were wrong, sure, but they felt right at the time.
I wasn't fond of the Slendy lynch, as well, because Cue was on it just after calling Slendy a bad lynch, so when Slendy voted someone with no votes instead of moving to save himself and lynching Cue, it pissed me off.
For the Smartbomb stuff, I thought he was town since the beginning of the Day, and saw where he was coming from when he said Ratchet was being increasingly scummy. His bit about too many people being on his townside also spoke to me, because I was very concerned with the townreads I had and whether I could really trust them when people are playing at this level.
I also thought Ratchet was always dying by the end there, with the votes at 5-4. I didn't see the Cue thing coming, and I admit that I should have switched my vote to Ratchet to ensure that the lynch went through.
I would have never played it that way as scum. Ratchet dying with 5 townies voting and me and my teammate on other wagons is a nightmare scenario. I'd always either try to save Ratchet (and go hard enough that no one would believe we were teammates) or hard bus him.
There's some other minor stuff Banks misinterpreted (I was calling Slendy's /posts/ good, I also asked Smartbomb and basically everyone in addition to Ratchet to vote cue with me, the question to Ratchet was picking apart something specific he'd said, town can be wrong and I'm not going to scumread them for being wrong once in my eyes(duh), etc.).
Uh, other stuff? When I came out against Banks Day 2, I did it in a way that is pretty scum on the sites I play, but I felt it was necessary to put him on his backfoot. Banks is an incredibly scary wolf and I knew I had to do something unexpected to get a useful reaction.
The post he quoted as me saying why cue died is the one where he townread me for no reason, and I thought it could have been seen as a peek, so that makes no sense.
I don't get why talking to MSU when he was on the road wagon with me Day 2 is scummy. I mean, I was trying to figure him out. If I were mafia by that point, I probably would have known he was the cop and would have backed off, I think?
He also criticized my wagon analysis, even though, again, it was correct, so Banks can suck it.
I can't address Slendy's point one, because I have no idea what Road was doing. I'll add that I led the Road wagon Day 2 in my defense, just after the pressure on Ratchet died down, so that'd be really weird to do as mafia.
2 isn't really true. I only aggressively tunneled for Day 1 on Cue. Then, I realized that I was pretty far off and toned it down a lot, to see if I could play a bit better. I only really picked it up again because tunneling hard on Banks is the only way to ever lynch him in my experience.
As for 3, I don't give cases to my teammates. That's stupid.
I can't address 4, except that I was pretty townread day 1 for no reason (again), so Ratchet may have just not wanted to make any waves there.
As for 5, I wasn't there. I've been at work every eod expect the first one, and I've never been able to keep up on my phone, even when people were hardly posting yesterDay. I couldn't have made a case.
I think that covers everything. The biggest point in my favor, imo, is that I contributed (directly or indirectly) to both scum lynches without going for a lot of credit on it. When the towncircle was made, I still fought it a bit, because I was paranoid, even though that towncircle would have suited scum!me perfectly. If I'm scum, I've played a ****ty game.