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Old 06-25-2015, 06:00 PM   #2901
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

Aww, I was expecting something more twisted. More extravagant.

I'm a little disappointed banks
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Old 06-25-2015, 06:01 PM   #2902
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Old 06-25-2015, 06:14 PM   #2903
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Old 06-25-2015, 06:15 PM   #2904
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Aww, I was expecting something more twisted. More extravagant.

I'm a little disappointed banks
I can't present whats not there buddy. I have even less on slendy and riki.

I'm just going to make short posts on them.

I'm like 80% the last scum is fonti but I'm finishing up her day 3 stuff.

You can also bet your horses if I was scum my case on you would be MUCH better I don't mind manipulating.
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Old 06-25-2015, 06:19 PM   #2905
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

To be brief while I finish

Fontisian

Slendy: Is scum if he bused the **** out of his whole team starting day 1 because he thought he was going ot get lynched at 1 hour before EoD and openly campaigned for his lynched when there was 4 town up for lynch MSU/Him/cue/Dorian all at 3 votes.

Riki: This is kind of for slendy if you're here before EoD you keep saying ratchet talks to me and riki differently do you think it makes us different alignments? I mean he was on smartbomb with me and started a doc train then switched smartbomb I guess cause he saw me after being on dorian. So it could have been him saying Ratchet?

Thats about all I have on riki Except one post where he says he "Read ratchet's previous games and saw a similar posting style" IF RIKI IS IN FINAL THREE TOWN READ THIS FILTER OF RATCHET AND SEE IF YOU AGREE!!!!! ITS IMPORTANT AS ****. I didn't have time (aka was too lazy)

Making bhuber case was hard last night because it was all kinda reaching and not really conclusive and centered around him being afk.

His buddying with raod the day road died seems so odd if he knows its just him after?

Idk

FONTI I think is always wolf. Case coming in as soon as I can finish day 3 stuff.
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Old 06-25-2015, 06:27 PM   #2906
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

Slendy's not going to flip on me, Banks. You'd have been better off going for bhuber toDay and accepting defeat in lylo.
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Old 06-25-2015, 06:28 PM   #2907
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Slendy's not going to flip on me, Banks. You'd have been better off going for bhuber toDay and accepting defeat in lylo.
I'm dead today I'm not trying to lynch anyone else. I hope you get lynched in final 3.

You know for a fact I'd try harder than this as a wolf.
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Old 06-25-2015, 06:37 PM   #2908
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

BTW once I flip fonti having not realized I'm town is essentially her claiming scum. Obviously I've been wrong a lot this game so my word isn't law and I'm just VT but she has seen me play enough games that she should know better. ESPECIALLY after how I reacted to road/dorian lynches.

I'm miles outside my scum meta for someone who has seen me play a bad town game like fonti has.

Don't instant vote her but i would be shocked to found out shes town.
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Old 06-25-2015, 06:40 PM   #2909
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

To be fair it would be consistent with my play so far lol.
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Old 06-25-2015, 06:41 PM   #2910
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

You know how when you like watch an old home movie and you see yourself doing something cringy as a kid? Thats how I felt rereading day 1. It was gross. delayed my cases because I kept like reading it and being like "Banks you suck" lol.
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Old 06-25-2015, 06:41 PM   #2911
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

afk for like 10.
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Old 06-25-2015, 06:52 PM   #2912
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

Was thinking about it just now. I hope fonti gets lynched as either alignment. Her read on me and her play is so gross. Good luck girl!
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Old 06-25-2015, 07:01 PM   #2913
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Old 06-25-2015, 07:04 PM   #2914
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Riki: 1) This is kind of for slendy if you're here before EoD you keep saying ratchet talks to me and riki differently do you think it makes us different alignments? I mean he was on smartbomb with me and started a doc train then switched smartbomb I guess cause he saw me after being on dorian. 2) So it could have been him saying Ratchet?
1) My money's still on 'yes'.
2) Could've.
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Old 06-25-2015, 07:08 PM   #2915
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1) My money's still on 'yes'.
2) Could've.
Doesn't matter much we won't be here tomorrow i think its always fonti/riki/bhuber

You should probably post some reads for final 3 if you want to and don't think its too meta.

I'm going to cut my case short cause work is getting busy. I more care about setting people up for final 3.
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Old 06-25-2015, 07:19 PM   #2916
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Re: Vote Count

DOCKET #348041

The Honorable Judge TehBankertin Presiding

The Village vs Fontisian

Charges: 1 count of Felony Wolfing

The Prosecution begins with EoD1:

Fonti was remembered for screaming for a cue lynch the last hour. This is the vote count and time for when it begins when she switches over.


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3 dorian78 Slendy (21), TehBankertin (185), Riki (151)
3 Slendy cue5c (123), Achromatic (72), MSU (45)
2 cue5c DocEspana (25), road (59)
1 SmartBomb dorian78 (31)
1 bhuber2010 fontisian (78)
Fonti ties it up to 3 votes for 3 town and slendy who in this scenario is town.

Right before this I call fonti **** for voting on cue. I say its a bad vote because cue was obviously town. She tells me she "isn't blinking" despite only making the vote 11 minutes later. This strong comment about a case you just made that consisted of:

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cue

0_0

Then slendy comes into the thread and starts the ratchet wagon.

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Unvote

RatchetOPB


It takes ages for me to open every single post so I'm going to be brief about everything unless specifically otherwise requested.

Dorian's pings come from fencesitting moments and posts that seem 'awkward' in the way that he might be fabricating the train-of-thought as he's writing. However, it seems to me that this could very feasibly be playingstyle!indicative, not an alignment-tell. He does seem to try to bring up new points if he gets to be the first to mention them, and I can follow his narrative from a Town-perspective, even if the cautiousness and several fencesitting moments irk me.

Ratchet gets my new Vote as as I have been skimming the Thread I haven't yet seen a post that hasn't pinged me as possibly-coasting.
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Slendy you butt, vote for someone who's going to be lynched.
This is referring to Ratchet.

Next post:

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Can we lynch Cue please.
Then as I recall the other wolf was road:

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Not Doc. I like Doc. Also Road. Road is cool with me now.
This is in response to riki saying doc was green. Fonti defending her fake green check.

Now suddenly fonti okay with the slendy vote for town cred:

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My vote is useful. It is on Cue.

Slendy's stuff is ok.
This is the next vote count

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3 cue5c DocEspana (25), road (59), fontisian (84)
3 Slendy MSU (47), SmartBomb (47), RatchetOPB (65)
2 dorian78 TehBankertin (197), Riki (157)
1 SmartBomb dorian78 (31)
1 MSU bhuber2010 (36)

:00 good :01 bad
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Not like Ratchet could be voting for CUE or anything.
Coaching? probably. Defending as well hoping someone will say "someone should vote the counter wagon" or possibly setting up if ratchet dies cue dies next because ratchet won't cross over.

My response:

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If he voted for cue I'd consider it a scum claim.
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Your face is a scumclaim.
Should have probably seen this before but it makes sense for her to react like this no evidence at all on her case not like slendy who actually did work.

Then she responds to something Ratchet posted about why she didn't vote cue:
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What information would come from a Slendy lynch?


Smartbomb makes a post about voting ratchet over cue

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Ratchet v cue... Ratchet your play in the last hour hasn't been stellar and I'm probably voting for you at :50 barring something that I like

Slendy's getting on my townside and that bugs me because that's too many people on my town side right now
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^
Smartbomb gets it. Sort of.
Why is fonti saying smartbomb gets it if hes on the counter wagon to her wagon of cue???? How does that make any sense??

Next up she posts telling me smartbomb is town with absolute certainty DESPITE HIM JUST SAYING THAT HE WOULD VOTE THE COUNTER TO HER SCUM WAGON.

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Jesus Christ. Smartbomb is town.
Also throwing this in:

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T_T Lynch cue, damn it.
How is she gungho on cue lynch while thinking smartbomb is town for voting hte counter wagon which is made by a good case by slendy? This doesn't line up. She wants the town cred for ratchet dying but doesn't want to be on the wagon.



Lol this is her berating a teammate for not voting cue:

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SHOULD HAVE VOTED FOR CUE, RATCHET

EOD 1 case.

Onto day 2 and day 3.

Day 2:

At first I chalked this up to her not understanding how the meta works in these setups or how I play. I kinda thought she wouldn't post this as scum but immediately accusing someone else for the scum kill makes sense

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Hey Banks. Hey, did you think Cue was the seer? Is that why you hardcore defended him yesterDay and shot him last Night?
Then she tells us why cue died:

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Actually, this could have gotten Cue killed.
She is the interested in MSU's scum read on ratchet but throws a bit of doubt on it.

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It makes sense, but lack details. Give names of the likely scum in scum!Ratchet worlds.
She then does this weird thing about the wagons 10 hours before EoD on MSU

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This is still relevant, especially with Smartbomb's flip. If MSU is scum, where's the counterwagon? If he's town, where's the scum on him?
How a vote like this is relevant is beyond me EoD is where its at for info anything can happen 10 horus before EoD


I really feel bad but this is as far as I've been able to get at work.

Fonti's day 3 on road I am going to read and just comment on the fly with my last 45 minutes here.

Thus ends the abridged case on Fonti.
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Old 06-25-2015, 07:20 PM   #2917
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If you were to flip Town it WOULD actually be plausible for Fonti to be the final Scummer. The cue-tunnel was ballsy, fo sho, but OTOH how obvious and bad would've it looked if she switched to Bomb last minute? Well, not TERRIBLY bad, since Bomb wasn't a bad wagon per se, but if she correctly realized Ratchet will become resolved one way or another unless the Cop is Hit N1/N2, she might've (correctly) realized playing the indirect hard bus is much better for Town-cred.

Haven't had time to reread today since I've been doing some moving-related chores, but there's three things that come to mind as noteworthy:

1) EoD3 road only plead me and Riki to change wagons, NOT Fonti. dorian he clearly wouldn't plead to since he was the counterwagon.
2) Fonti's been able to hide behind an aggressive tunnel for most of the game -- while I *can* see her doing that as Town (if my impression of her playertype is correct), it's still plausible as Mafia too.
3) ...road's weird case on you, Banks, could have also come from Fontisiac, actually. Still makes the most sense for you to have asked for a 'distance-ing' attempt from him, but it's not impossible at all for Fonti to have outlined the case for road.

...also 4) the reads I called Ratchet out on were dorian/road/Fontisiac/bhuber. They all seemed arbitrary -- IIRC dorian and Fonti were the arbitrary 'Town-reads' on his list, while bhuber/road were the arbitrary 'nulls'. Would fit with Scum usually not putting their buddies under the same category at that stage of the game.
(You and riki also were arbitrary in a somewhat different way, but I didn't call him out on that back then.)
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Old 06-25-2015, 07:21 PM   #2919
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

I'm not happy with my play this game and I do apologize I could have played this day better town but I might be wrong and I can't be in final 3 I always die 0% chance I live so kinda needed to be sacrificed or 100% sure. I'm not 100% so killing a scummy town at final 5 is bad.

I do have to laugh at whoever is the last scum post game for not managing to having me killed before road because I did some scummy as ****! My day 1 was brutal.

Expanding on fonti for now.
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Old 06-25-2015, 07:23 PM   #2920
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Also 5) kind of left a bad taste in my mouth how Fonti didn't try to persuade me back onto the Banks-wagon EoD4.
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If you were to flip Town it WOULD actually be plausible for Fonti to be the final Scummer. The cue-tunnel was ballsy, fo sho, but OTOH how obvious and bad would've it looked if she switched to Bomb last minute? Well, not TERRIBLY bad, since Bomb wasn't a bad wagon per se, but if she correctly realized Ratchet will become resolved one way or another unless the Cop is Hit N1/N2, she might've (correctly) realized playing the indirect hard bus is much better for Town-cred.

Haven't had time to reread today since I've been doing some moving-related chores, but there's three things that come to mind as noteworthy:

1) EoD3 road only plead me and Riki to change wagons, NOT Fonti. dorian he clearly wouldn't plead to since he was the counterwagon.
2) Fonti's been able to hide behind an aggressive tunnel for most of the game -- while I *can* see her doing that as Town (if my impression of her playertype is correct), it's still plausible as Mafia too.
3) ...road's weird case on you, Banks, could have also come from Fontisiac, actually. Still makes the most sense for you to have asked for a 'distance-ing' attempt from him, but it's not impossible at all for Fonti to have outlined the case for road.

...also 4) the reads I called Ratchet out on were dorian/road/Fontisiac/bhuber. They all seemed arbitrary -- IIRC dorian and Fonti were the arbitrary 'Town-reads' on his list, while bhuber/road were the arbitrary 'nulls'. Would fit with Scum usually not putting their buddies under the same category at that stage of the game.
(You and riki also were arbitrary in a somewhat different way, but I didn't call him out on that back then.)
expand more on her read before you die please. Its important others see it from a townie who has been more right than me.
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Old 06-25-2015, 07:25 PM   #2922
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Also 5) kind of left a bad taste in my mouth how Fonti didn't try to persuade me back onto the Banks-wagon EoD4.
I thoguht dorian conceded. I truly truly did. I was so excited. I've never been more emotionally drained than I was seeing him flip villa. IT was my fault. I'm dying for it now, hopefully riki/bhuber/fonti figure it out tomorrow.
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

I'm going to expand on this now that its too late in the day for me to possibly live and doesn't look like a defense of myself.

FONTI should KNOW that the rhetoric I had at the end of day yesterday was NEVER me as scum talking knowing a town was dying. Just not how I work.
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Re: The 2015 Mafia Championship: Game 6

I also would never corner myself like I did yesterday and not have an exit plan. Fonti of course SHOULD know this as town. I gave her essentially the day and the bhuber case to reread me. Her inability to do this means she is the last scum 80% of the time.
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Old 06-25-2015, 07:28 PM   #2925
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1, 2 and 5 are the most relevant ones, 3 is almost ignorable as Riki could've also given that case to road (but it A: makes more sense coming from Fonti who is familiar with Banks and B: Riki's observation of almost-the-same-case applying to him makes him look better wrt that), 4 is interesting but remains inconclusive as OTOH Riki also was practically speaking placed under a different 'category' from the rest.
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