road leave your legacy

Riki/dorian is more plausible than riki/road; Mafia!riki bussing Mafia!road D2 (when riki had already sniffed out MSU as a possible Cop) is absurdly -EV since MSU was under no obligation to claim; the Phase could've well ended with road getting Lynched, then whenever MSU flips it's obvious his N1-peek was Mafia!Ratchet.

Like I already said, ROAD'S D2 CASE ON BANKS IS WRITTEN IN AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT LINGO from anything else he's presented in this game so far. I don't think that case was his own doing; he was given it by someone else, and that someone else is not dorian. If the case was all-road, we would've seen him try similar cases, or atleast use the same friggin' terminology, when discussing some OTHER players. So, like I already said, it's entirely plausible you told him to distance himself from you, while you try to keep an aura of 'objectivity' wrt road (and not end up going after him as the LHF he ended up being).

You still refuse to properly elaborate on WHY Ratchet/Riki were Cops IYO, when I've told you those reasons seem arbitrary to me -- sure, you're allowed to have "light" Cop-reads on people, but you used it to justify not going after Ratchet EoD1 when I FIRST asked you of it, so clearly you should be able to give me some groundbreaking, shut-Slendy's-mouth-for-good back up for this assumption.

No, road urged Ratchet to counterclaim. Everyone seems to have missed this.

I'll admit that I can see you giving claims to everyone, but there's also enough hypothetical scenarios where you either forget, aren't clear enough, or the game plan changes for other reasons that this can be dismissed.

How am I associative tunneling when I already said I see you as red separately from one another? Funnily enough this makes me think you are well aware of what I pointed out wrt road's "case" on you, as that's the only bit of "association" I've done wrt you two, yet you still feign ignorance and ask me to clarify the matter.

Compare dorian's tone to road's today. road is polishing everything he's saying, eminating an aura of frustration on people not reading his posts the way he wished they would read them.
dorian just says what's on his mind. It doesn't always look super-Pro-Town as he's not accustomed to this intensity of Scumhunting, but he clearly isn't polishing anything desperately. He COULD be Scum here, but if he is, he is keeping his cool admirably. And if he is, Doc is right that bhuber is the most plausible Buddy-oso.

Fair enough on cue -- where is the elaboration on Ratchet? Should be a piece of cake for you to shed some light on this thought process of yours. Yet you keep circling around and evading the matter.

Your interactions with Ratchet do seem quite good -- Ratchet OTOH only ever responded to you, continued a series of empty reads-list-clarification-questions, and inexplicably was still more confident of you than of Riki whom Ratchet legitimately DID interact with a-plenty.

I will provide it tomorrow you're clearly not dying today road is getting lynched.

Were you reading something that made you run across that bit of info?

what was the point you made? i don't remember

Judging by this last page I'm seeing I need to attention-whore a bit more:

Road

I've been pretty sure of this all day, if it turns out to be wrong I have a lot of re-reading to do.

complacency

So who wrote it? Did I write it on myself?

quick comparison

these are two cases road made on d1 of game 3:

I thought ratchet was cop for that one post That is is. 100% thats the truth. Believe it or don't I don't ****ing care. I play off the info I see in front of me. It was a mistake that I made on day 1. It cost of the cop those are things I'm aware of and I feel pretty ****ing bad about.

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Votes	Lynch	Voters
5	road	dorian78 (34), Riki (121), Slendy (87), fontisian (33), Achromatic (33)
2	dorian78	TehBankertin (148), road (62)
1	bhuber2010	DocEspana (29)
1	Error	bhuber2010 (69)

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I was thinking about the case I made on bhuber, since I was describing it in my reply to you. It was before he returned, and based on his early interactions with Ratchet and thoughts on the cue flip.


1758 It's a bunch of minorly scummy things that added up to moderately scummy in my book. Avoiding opinions on Ratchet, casting suspicion on other people when he could have cast suspicion on Ratchet, having TMI about cue's kill, etc... And one interaction with road that came up while digging.

maybe me and riki talk too much.

Road you're going to die.

Interesting that you'd have to ask me about this when you agreed with me less than a day ago.

The case on you, Banks, by road came from one of you/bhuber/Riki, in that order of likelihood. road failed to make it fluid, didn't utilize similar habits of analysis towards any other fellow players and struggled with the language barrier because he was forcing himself to write it.

And before you ask again, you weren't pleased with your teammates buddying you so much D1. road taking distance from you in that manner was more effective than you going after him, due to the impression we have of you two as Players.

Road is going to flip ____ fill in the blank. This makes _____ scum for reason ______.

I don't care if my teammates buddy me when I'm scum I play like a mother hen or an abusive step father. I either protect my flock with my life or I abuse them for my own benefit.

I just want to bump this. No one mentioned it, but from my POV I think this looks like TMI..

Well you can consider it on later days at least

bhuber not coming back to the thread is kind of bad

i don't think it's tmi

it's just hyperbole to get his point across

When I flip villager I think you should clear bhuber. His strategy does not make any kind of sense as scum. I know i went through this before but i just cant see it.

Not hyperbole, actually. Since road was the only one to do that (well bhuber was also afk, I now realize), and I'm assuming quite heavily that he's gonna flip red here, then that means literally every other Townie WAS interested in the Ratchet-wagon (and the Scummer/s who was/were able to feign a Pro-Town attitude wrt this)

meh

booooo

boooooooooooooooooooooo

dorian

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Votes	Lynch	Voters
5	road	dorian78 (35), Riki (123), Slendy (89), fontisian (33), Achromatic (33)
3	dorian78	TehBankertin (152), road (65), bhuber2010 (71)
1	bhuber2010	DocEspana (29)

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