i don't disagree with looking at the earlier wagons, but resolving them before resolving ratchet seems so counter intuitive to me

i don't think you gave an opinion on him either you just asked what the case on him was (despite apparently having read eod, which is when the case was posted)

you also still didn't talk about him after a ton of stuff was posted about him during d2

like

why

BTW this is EOD 1 hour prior and the turn out is ****ty. We better hope that the team is in the PoE if its not we're going to lose.

banks did you post your case on dorian?

i really don't understand this line of thinking but w/e

road pls post

I mean that he kept asking the same questions and i honestly felt/feel that he didnt considered my thoughts. As i wrote im possible just misunderstanding something. Well i hope that - or Slendy is mafia. I would also think that if Slendy was villager and he honestly thought i was scum then he would try to bait some spew out of me instead of just looping around.

I know I could be tunneling, but it seems like none are really considerign him scum, therefore I hope that when i turn villager, ppl might question him a bit.

It is this post: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1129 .
It is not like im not willing to vote anyone else than Banks. I have also stated I dont feel as strongly about him being scum now as yesterday..

Im not much of a voter. I'd rather only vote once if possible, but that is just my style. Actually I would be open to vote for anyone if it can save myself, but id rather vote for someone i dont think is scum.

Well, you have to consider that i have been lacking activity. i might have missed some of the dynamic and some of the posts. i could also be super bad, but at least i give you guys the opportunity to read me correctly.

I dont think my bhuber villager case on d2 was thin. I have also wirtten today why i think his strategy today is so extremely villagery (seen from my perspective, where i know i am villager)

Im considering them as i dont have as strong a villagerread on them as achro, bhuber and you. That doesnt mean i think they are scum.
I have written that him possible shc + my read on him was enough to thin kof him as villager - therefore making workload smaller.

and im not gonna spend more time explaining myself when you (and slendy) apparantly will not understand my start of d2.


I dont have any good exlanations why this. i didnt think of this until someone highlighted it today (maybe you?)

banks what's your read on bhuber?

Sry have 2 tables left, so not the fastest answers
Dorian > Banks

I went over it in the night. Essentially his whole game has been a game of not looking for mafia and caring only about his own life.

I was making a case and realized I was literally just quoting his whole filter.

I can't believe he isn't getting more heat. I mean maybe I'm just super wrong. Maybe people are too complacent. Maybe people think I'm a wolf so they don't take what I have to say DESPITE people thinking I'm a wolf with dorian which is insane.

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Votes	Lynch	Voters
4	road	dorian78 (32), Riki (113), Slendy (85), fontisian (33)
2	dorian78	TehBankertin (139), road (61)
1	bhuber2010	DocEspana (29)
1	not voting	Achromatic (32)
1	Error	bhuber2010 (69)

i mean achro and fonti both also think you're mafia, but slendy is actually like rereading posts and stuff while they've for the most part just voted you and not done much else

so singling out slendy is strange

and basing your read on him off of that and not off of everything else that happened wrt him/ratchet on day 1 and day 2 is just weird

like, from my pov, it kind of looks like it could just be you in anti-spew

there's also a later post where cue says he lied about his villager read on achro

multiple people have said they don't think there was a clear peek/clear shc so it's just strange that you keep insisting achro is shc

uhh i'm gonna assume this was a typo

have you tried reading ratchet for spew/reading any of multiple posts where others read ratchet for spew?

if dorian is a wolf i don't think you'd be with him fwiw

i mean i would be interested in seeing your case on him (probably tomorrow i guess), specifically his d2/d3 stuff if you were quoting his entire filter

I agree with many of Slendy's points on you. I think the excuse that you thought Ratchet was cop is certainly possible, but also really one of the only reasons you could have used that would have made sense, and thus is incredibly convenient.

I think that I'm having a hard time envisioning anyone besides road as your teammate. bhuber was an easy pick until he pushed that huge case on you. That made sense to me on some level if he was your teammate, but Doc's thought process also makes a ton of sense to me, in which case he's not.

I think, given what I've seen of your personality, that you make this case on me as either affiliation. Like, mafia-you does it because it's what town-you would do, and because it's easier than many of the alternatives. I very much won't be able to resolve you in my head without more flips and a whole lot of rereading the thread.

I think that I've been trying to solve the game as best I can since the start of day 2. You and I have very, very different interpretations of what that means.

His passion today seemed real but I never saw a progression on me in the fullest. I didn't see him present his arguments clearly like slendy has done. I think that based on play alone this is where I have everyone in order.

MY full list atm.

Town In order
Doc
Slendy - presenting a case with clear cut arguments seems to care about the game.
Achro - reacted very well to the ratchet red check
Fonti - tone read but isn't doing much work I hated her post today about how she just wants to "sure up the auto circle" I don't think this makes her a wolf but I just hate posts like that.

Riki - Felt townie enough for me to green check, ratchet not being cop makes me think that riki being wolf might be why he thought I was not cop in his response.
Road - Has done some things I kind of assume town wouldn't do. His case on me his thinking I'm scum when I know it not to be true. He hits the bottom of the list because I could be playing like **** and he could be mafia for having bad logic on me.

Bhuber - His rl absence remind me of turnip in the previous game. He pushed on me and I wanted to let it play out and see where he went with it. I think doc's logic on him being scum with someone trying to buy a day.
Dorian - This man is not trying to find wolves which is literally the soul purpose for this game he is coasting to the fullest extent of the definition. He is being defended by his sites meta which I find weak.

I was frustrated on Slendy, because i felt he didnt read my posts. I found it scummy of him to continue doing that - but i have never tried to push slendy or likewise - and assuming you think this makes me scum, what is the point of doing this?

I dont remember having seen that. I have asked for it twice (at least). I know I SHOULD look for it myself but I havent prioritized that. If i were in a f3 with achro i would ofc look at it again. I dont even get why it is a big deal. being shc gives you a pass for like 2-3 days - not the whole game.

Y, it was a typo

I tried reading him - but after first 500 posts and I didnt find anything I dropped it and fell asleep yesterday..

I read Achros spewanalysis, yes.

this is also a typo right

I mean I could post something today but no one is here to read it.

I made that list and was writing the **** out.

I think I want to say something big. The team is fonti/dorian.

Bhuber did seem like he cared about what he was saying. I mean I made the list cause in my head thats how I was thinking but I'm not 100% thats what the case is.

Slendy obviously cares.

Achro's excitement on the ratchet thing was too good.

Riki's logic trains have been good and participation and questioning makes him hard for me to read scum.

Road yeah he could be scum I could be defending him stupidly for no reason but hell why did he react teh way he did with that case on me. I mean no matter what I am he says that he has a huge scum case on me starts posting it clearly wasn't reading the thread to see the cop claim and then is like "dang my case goes to waste but banks is still scum" its just so out there to me. I guess I won't have to worry about htis read but he feels town to me.

are you the type of player to ignore what the thread consensus is if you haven't checked to verify stuff on your own?

on second thought that's probably a worthless question to ask but meh

Yeah should read that scum wouldn't do.

Fonti why aren't you here?

Same question to achro :/

EoD is fun.

why is this game so hard dude

Show me one clear example of this from day 2 or 3. D2 I was totally trying to probe Ratchet, Achro, and MSU in my own way to get better reads on them. I didn't wind up ever having to make a case because of the claim. D3 I've totally pushed on road and bhuber and spent the rest of the day trying to put together scenarios of teams. Just because I'm not jumping down anyone's throat doesn't mean I'm not trying to find mafia.

Also, a note, cause I just realized it. bhuber never even acknowledged or responded to any of the points I made about his D1 and D2 posting. Yeah, he had a lot to catch up on, but I'd think that post would have been worth addressing.

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Votes	Lynch	Voters
4	road	dorian78 (33), Riki (119), Slendy (85), fontisian (33)
2	dorian78	TehBankertin (144), road (62)
1	bhuber2010	DocEspana (29)
1	not voting	Achromatic (32)
1	Error	bhuber2010 (69)