I have 3 questions for you - i dont know if they are possible to answer though, but it is my focus atm:

Why can't you be scum? Have you done anything you wouldnt do as scum?
Why can't you be scum with dorian?
Why can't you be scum with Slendy?

Try answer the last two with focus on person not use 1 as the reason

Are there any interactions, any patterns or likewise that makes it highly unlikely?

ye im around for approx 1 hour
Then i start the pokergrind and will be like semi-online meaning i can follow the thread and join with short comments/answers/questions

1) As scum I would have told my team n1 to ALWAYS claim cop if they are red checked there is no down side. n1 would have been me preparing everyone's cop claims out so that the knew what to do. ESPECIALLY ratchet who I would assume gets red checked about 40%+ time.

2) Dorian I was trying to get votes on day 1 with riki. I also was on him the next day and kept being told "Banks just cause there was no votes on him EoD doesn't mean that he is mafia" I was pushing this day 2.

3) This is the most likely one considering I didn't really join the Slendy train EoD 1. I also haven't interacted with him that much on day 2. I know that I'm not a wolf.

Lets read through dorian's filter starting day 1. Make a post once you come to the first one where you feel like Dorian has found a wolf he wants to lynch and quote it in spoilers. So we can't copy each other.

How does that sound?

f5 do you accept road?

Well I hope you are scum because then you probably spewed me villager by answer from 1. Well in so far the thingy-theorem holds up (or he prolly learned it from someone else, but he tought it to me) - meaning scum wouldnt lie unless they have to.

I dont really think the d1 push on dorian was that strong. I mean, you could have pushed him harder if you were sure. Softpushes on d1 doesnt clear anyone. I'm gonna look at d2 progression and see how much you pushed him

Read my thing please.

Well, fine, but if it takes more than 10-15 minutes i drop it, because im more curious about your d2 as of now. how do you post spoilers?

And easiest way to filter? by putting everyone else on ignorelist right?

just highlight whatever it is then hit the "SP" thing under the advancedoptions.

Search thread the type in the name of whoever you want to filter.

If it takes more than 10-15 minutes what does that say about dorian? :P

I'm off to find mine.

The first post of dorians that is anything game solvey. He makes a huge post about how smartbomb is mafia. Tell me if anyone thinks he REALLY believes this is the case.

Sry forgot we had to stop after the first post. Actually the second quoted post is prolly not "really want to lynch"

Hmm I felt that his read on Smartbomb was kind of genuine and he believed it. But I find it weird that he just a few pages earlier writes that he does not like making strong reads on d1 and the puff, he finds this case on Smartbomb.

At the time he wrote it I felt it was kind of construted, but I believed him when he said it was his style.

However when reading this d1 I think you and him are more likely scumteam. You didnt interact that much and you ended up sponging his SmartBomb vote (i mean, you did have him as scumread yourself, but it just fits the world of you two being scum with Ratchet)

Glad you kept going. Reading his posts do they sound like someone who is trying to figure out peoples alignments or describe someone as town because of something. Lots of defending and making excuses.

My full case will be tomorrow.

I invite everyone to perform the exercise me and road just did.

Do the same for others in the game and see who does what. Read cue/MSU/smart's filter docs see how long it takes them to think someone is scummy and push on them.

Cool so help me bus him today then.

I'm going to bed. Please read what me and road did. Thanks!

But I must admit I would normally consider these two posts as being villagery.
1) Maybe this is like a lol-read, but would scum write this about his own choice? It would be a little bit sick to do. It is mostly the choice of words. "brilliant"

2) I think thinking of MSU maybe claiming as scum/VT is roleneutral, but writing a post about is probably villagery, as the scum would be more afraid of people speculating about the reason for thinking those thoughts.. idk

It is a bit thin but i just thought of it when ISO'ing him

I might do that. If you follow this through I have some thoughts about your alignment, however will not post them yet. gn

Yes, but it was intentionally subtle -- the 'wow such Town' at the last minute on Achro, while the Votes were still 3-3-3-3, was it. Repeated it D2, then abandoned the strategy due to cold feet and MSU's claim.

Road
Dorian
bhuber
riki
Big gaping chasm
Banky
Small valley
Everyone else (if there is a wolf in here, you will literally win because of a flawless performance day 1)

This is some of Banks' post on d2. I tried to focus on his explanation that he pushed dorian on d2.

It is important to note that he started voting me on d2, then votes msu twice and then voted dorian before the MSU-claim.

I dont think this is a very strong push/pressure if any - and i cant see why this excludes them as being scum/scum.

Anyways, gotta go. please hit me up with any questions and i hopefully will be able to answer shortly (depending on how many tables i have running).

What is this ?

Wonder if this means I should change my vote. I almost feel like I feel most comfortable with dorian because I came to him purely on instinct, not from watching you all make your cases (road has a stronger wolf case by a bit). I like instinct.

I also feel like bhuber tells us the most at death. By a wide margin. If he goes red then it basically clears riki. And (iirc) totally implicates road. And if he is green in think everyone has already figured out that riki road and dorian only work in certain combos which probably clears one of them.

Of course I actually am NOT giving banker a pass. But he is a ton more innocent appearing than the others. But he shouldn't be lumped in eith those who played day 1 pure villager. He didn't. He just didn't get smeared by ratchet association. Which is a big deal, but iany evetything. Please don't get tunnel vision.

Strongly contemplating bhuber. I love his play today (saying it again) but he tells so much more strategically tHan anyone else does and he is definitely not a *bad* target. Even if the case for others is better.