explain your logic behind why you think it makes more sense to resolve the former wagons before resolving the actual eod wagons

fwiw bhuber was one of the four wagons he mentioned, but not one of the ones he said he would focus on

is that similar to how coolkid played in game 3?

if you realized this wouldn't that make you want to make a conscious effort to pay more attention to his posts

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Votes	Lynch	Voters
4	road	dorian78 (15), Riki (62), Slendy (55), fontisian (17)
1	dorian78	DocEspana (12)
4	not voting	Achromatic (18), bhuber2010 (7), road (26), TehBankertin (16)

Right, thanks for the clarification.

Oh there is posting much happy

I'm at work going to read what I've missed.

all aboard eh?

It interesting. I didn't remember that from before. I will say this about road he was cop last game so potentially his game as cop/vt would be very different. However the apologetic nature is odd. I have been admittedly very lazy today. I kind of wanted to see where other people end up on spew analysis without the voices of myself and achro and you.

No brakes.

Could you quote a post that made you think Ratchet was the cop and explain why?

This phrasing is so weird.

Yeah its his day 1 when I asked him why he read my reads as good or not good and he expanded upon each of my reads after I prompted him.

Let me catchup I only have this page left to go.

To Expand if I remember right I asked him why he liked me for my reads when I felt his and mine weren't REALLY aligning that much and to expand on them.

In the expansion the way he commented on my cop check on riki was SUPER weird like a someone who didn't believe it at all. Like he was tossing it away as why is this person claiming cop.

Wait what.

You thought Ratchet knew your town peek on Riki was fake?

correct. I think we're having the same thought (that I've been thinking for a day now)

Not a good enough reason to refuse to consider Ratchet as a Lynch when they haven't breadcrumbed or softclaimed while under pressure in the slightest. Cops defend WAY differently if CFD'd the way Ratchet was CFD'd, and we both know that.

But you're right, Ratchet probably didn't believe your cop check on riki in the slightest.

If you've been thinking it for a day, what was the reason you didn't want to consider PlausiblyCop!Ratchet as the Lynch EoD1?

As in, what was the reason/post D1, not 24 hours ago.

A thought.

Someone getting nailed as hard as road is being nailed will change up their story and have 500 different reasons got everything if they are a wolf. Maybe not at first, but eventually a wolf will have to address the attacks and retroactively change their "internal logic " so that it fits each accusation and diffuses it best.

When someone is getting nailed like this, wolves defend themselves against specific arguments better than villagers. Villagers are logically consistent, but that means they do stuff they can't defend spectacularly (or they defend by saying "hey, refer back to what I said before. I did it for the same reason and it doesn't look as good in this post but it's the same reason.")

Around this time it is appropriate to look at all of roads responses to questions coming at him from 100 different angles and see if he always has a well reasoned logic for every move (wolf suspicious. No one knows and prepares for every analysis) or if he has a few consistent ideas and sometimes he looks a bit hamstrung by his own logic (which is villagerish at this level of play since at some point we will find ways to break the actual logic used. And that's okay. It's because no logic holds up to infinite analysis).

I thibk he is being a bit too perfect at defending himself but I wasn't looking at it with that analytical approach to avoid biasing myself early.

I think it was a great reason if I have a strong cop read on someone (He was my most likely with Riki as second) I will follow that because the cop is our most valuable asset. I agree upon days end without him claiming or anything he was WAY less likely to be cop in my books or he had nerves of steal. However when the move started. I wasn't ready for it when there was 3 people I had as WAY scummier than that.

Since I'm heading into work I'll be popping in to see what you guys find. But someone should do this for me, please. I'm gonna be way busy on my shift today. And quoting hundreds of posts is more your Forte anyway. I read once or twice and trust my general feel of the bigger picture and pattern recognition rather than the verbatim.

I think riki is mafia and thats why Ratchet didn't believe my check THATS what I've been thinking about for a day. The cop thing has been on my mind sense that post until end of day.

I obviously don't still think he's cop read my post

With Mafia!Riki realizing start of D2 that Ratchet was a turrrribly likely investigation-target, do you agree with me that if road flips Mafia, Riki giving the critical push to the road-wagon before MSU's claim would've been such a -EVplay for Mafia that a road/Riki -pair is implausible?

I definitely understand this point of view. As Mafia things tend to line up as planned so you're more apt to look good because you always know exactly whats going on. As town you're more apt to do what myself or Fonti (Who I think is town) did and be screaming for a town to die at EoD1.

I will look at it more specifically when I reread the time before the claim later.

I think its unlikely unless riki was going for the lone wolf strategy at that point. This wouldn't however line up with his day 1 strategy of saving his teammates though so find it more likely you're correct assuming scum!road.