His conclusion that i was scum. obv

Lol this seems opportunistic. What are the math behind this thought? From what I read there you think there are a bigger probability that bhuber are mafia than me.
You are just assuming in your conclusio nthat either of us flips mafia. Try to consider the fact that we could flip villagers. I know i will flip villager, and then what info have you gained?
I think bhuber wil lflip villager, and then what info have you gained?

I think this is the wrong way to look at it.

I mean, if i were to be lynched and flip scum, then you would say that riki couldnt be my partner, which means bhuber would be next for lynch. The the info gained with lynching me is no bigger than lynching bhuber, because he would be lynched anyway - from your train of thoughts.

I just dont see why it makes sense to not lynch who you find most scummy in this situation.

Anyways, this only makes sense of you to screw up intentionally if you were scum with bhuber, which I as of now dont find likely

I dont think this is true. I can try to find some posts from game 3

Also, Achro is not seer hunt clear.That's not the reason you should be townreading him.

I dont think scum!Riki would put in that much effort in analyzing my posts with the main purpose of suspecting bhuber/dorian. Because he knows I flip villager, and then the effort will be wasted, if the purpose was to get bhuber/dorian mislynched after me. So IF he could put in that effort, i think he would analyze other places.

This just seems like a villager assuming I'm scum.

Well in my mind he is close to be.
I'm way behind and a realistic view i wouldnt be able to do all the work i would like to do, therefore I need some kind of assumptions to ease my workload.
I would as of now, be willing to clear achro because of that AND the other things (him being villagery, analyzing a lot, doing a lot of work, toneread, vote d1)

I disagree. In this situation, you both should be thinking Day to Day about getting mislyches. Putting in a little extra effort for one should be worthwhile.

Why?

Cue spent most of Day 1 trying to figure out Achro's alignment and explicitly said he might be scum. I don't get how you can see that as a clear seer hunt clear when we've already discussed all of this.

This is not a very great list of suspicions haha.

Truer words have ever been spoken? I think not.

This is one of those things where I wish I could believe you came to this read without seeing that basically everyone else already townread me.

Nice!
I dont know what to make of this post. I'm considering what Scum!Banks can ever gain from reading me town in this spot. Keeping me in the game, having me as an easy mislynch later?

And yes, I dont think anyone would consider you an easy target, lol. I still think my points are true (which I will elaborate on later). Can you short explain your progression on your read on me this game?

I have had an odd feeling about this, but i fakepeeked you so wasnt able to ask you a lot during most of d1 and d2

Assuming Riki is scum I think his strategy should depend on how the last scum is being read. Day to day if he is in a PoE and long term if the last one is safe.
What does this mean?
Nothing, because Riki is villager.
However IF Riki should be scum, which i find unlikely, his scummate is probably in the danger.

Can you show these posts? I dont remember that when reading through, and it is the first time I have seen anyone stating that.

Well, I dont think it can be worse than most of your guys, as I for a fact know that you are wrong with the top suspect (being me ofc)
Try to assume I'm villager, maybe the whole game would look different. I think my perspective is very different because i read all of the analysis knowing the outcome/assumptions are wrong

Oh Im not the one who is voting for you. Im voting for the other guy. I actually have you about third from the bottom.

But you're more than welcome to give me reason to rearrange.

I will

I always keep an eye for the cop. The worst thing ever is to lynch the cop, the next worst thing is to lynch his peek.

Ah sry, just felt everyone where voting for me.
After having answered whatever question/post directed or about me, I wont prioritize defending myself. Even though you are not voting for me, im in your PoE. I think im in everyones PoE.
the best thing i can do is to make the other in the PoE the two scum.

Hmm. I think it is naturally. I mean, when i can live with people in wagons, i mean i dont have any kind of townread on them. As you quoted in the post above, i didnt have any real read on fonti, riki and ratchet. I later got a villagerread on fonti (which you quoted too) - therefore leaving ratchet and riki as acceptable (however not preferred) lynches. I cant see what you find weird there?

In the 2nd quote I actually asks what people think about resolving wagons, when the wolves resolved the third wagon? It is a situation I dont recall having been in before ,therefore finding it weird. It is not like I'm saying "we shouldnt lynch Ratchet". I think you are overthinking this.

I never states that Ratchet is clear. My arguments for wanting to focus on the 4 ppl is that they were ALL wagons early on but NONE of them ended up being wagons. Wouldnt you think this leaves at least 1 scum there?

last quote: lol tunnelling

Well you cant just have this without putting in the context.
I havent been a profile in this game, therefore not that much reason to talk about me. Ratchet was kind of anonymous up to my last post eod d1. On d2 a lot of other guys were asking him a lot - no reason for me to. I really dont think this is as suspicious as you think - i Feel like it just fits your worldview of me being scum

Btw

I think would also fail the "test" vs:

riki, slendy, doc, msu

and maybe some would say vs: fonti, achro too

I havent read spew on ratchet yet, but I would find it weird if you werent able to find more ppl he didnt really talk about.

I have a history with Banks therefore I was more focused on him than anyone else. I still am actually.
Also I havent looked at you as scummy. You have been neutral to me all the time, because you were one of the ones with highest postcount, so i never really felt like ISO'ing you.

If you look in game 3, i actually have it in the EXACT same way in regards to some of the other players (if i remember correct Yates and coolkid in particular - but also banks in middle stages after townreading him d1 though)

1) I didnt forget about ratchet. I jsut had limited time and therefore not focusing on him. I think I even write that in some post lol. also i dont remeber being online at the same time as Ratchet. I think you would a lot of ppl I dont really interact with/talk about in more than some few lines.

2) bhuber have been one of the ppl i actually spend most time reading. I had him as scum d1 but reading up on him during the early stages of d2 i changed my read on him to villagery. I assume i did argue for that.

3) Yes i forgot dorian. I dont think you can deduce anything from that - it is probably neutral for me, because I have a tendency to forget different things lol. Also i do think i remember having discussed dorian on d1/d2 and some of his thoughts.

Bull****. You first go "okay cue-flip resolves that thing [Ratchet]" then you LEAVE OUT THE MOST IMPORTANT D1-WAGON from your "pool of 4" -wagons.

What the hell, if you are Town?

Riki, Slendy and Doc are CLEARLY arbitrary.

Was this post just an excuse for you to try to make it seem like you'd have had sufficient interactions with Banks? That's the only name missing alongside Bhuber, so this is CLEARLY arbitrary.

Having bad reads doesnt equal being scum. I also changed my read on you completely on d2 after rereading you and actually realizing i probably missread you.

To clarify, THIS: seems like the bit where road has TMI-slipped with regards to Ratchet and the cue hit; pointing out that having cue alive would be extra incentive to lynch Ratchet, but since cue is gone that 'incentive' is gone because 'no real information to gain'.

Try to reread my post. Or, wait a cpl of seconds, then i will quote it and highlight why you are wrong

Already spared you the trouble.

Also going to afk for a moment -- like I said, unsure how much I can be around later, but I feel that the relevant questions (for me atleast) have already been asked.

My purpose of this post was to:

1) Ask what other ppl thought of resolving wagons, in this exact situation. Normally it would be standard but i think that cue (the last wagon and also the one saving Ratchet) being killed changes a lot.
2) Making sure that lynching Ratchet would actually serve a purpose

I dont see why this is weird at all. If we wont to infolynch (which is often the case d2), we shoould make sure to get some info. Point out where I try to assume cue lynch means ratchet is villager?