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It depends on the mindset of the scum. Some scum are counter intuitive, and they are the hardest to catch. It is hard, in the heat of a game, to be that way though. To leave yourself open to scrutiny in order to avoid scrutiny. From my perspective I think scum should play balls to the wall and do their best to seem town, but that takes a very high skill cap. ... And to be maybe a bit mean judging by the night kill which I found to be a poor choice I don't know if we're dealing with three amazing scum players who are capable of doing that.

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06-17-2015 , 09:10 PM

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There probably has to be Mafia in MSU/Achro. Regardless of whether one or two, it seems likelier that the rest of the team wasn't around EoD1.

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06-17-2015 , 09:11 PM

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Who do you think falls into this category?

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06-17-2015 , 09:11 PM

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Achromatic

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While I don't much care for MSU, why is it a must Slendy? Scum could in theory just not have been around. Why 'has to be'?

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06-17-2015 , 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TehBankertin

Who do you think falls into this category?

I don't have it narrowed down yet. Probably not you, what with your insane amount of content. If you're scum you're certainly clever. The problem, with no history to go off of, I don't know people's scum profile at a glance. Given the night kill though now that I think about it I'd list you as pretty green, so that gives me 3 people to work with.

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06-17-2015 , 09:14 PM

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Slendy

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Fair enough, I suppose it IS possible that the entire team was afk EoD1. Which would make it sad and hilarious that the whole fireworks-display was entirely Town-on-Town.

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06-17-2015 , 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Slendy

There probably has to be Mafia in MSU/Achro. Regardless of whether one or two, it seems likelier that the rest of the team wasn't around EoD1.

I might have missed it because tbh I've been working and trying to figure out this filters thing that is upsetting me but where are you on road/bhuber?

I can see this MSU/Achro world possibly.

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06-17-2015 , 09:16 PM

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Achromatic

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Why are so many people connecting me to MSU? Maybe it's just the fact that I know I am town, but I don't get it.

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06-17-2015 , 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Slendy

Fair enough, I suppose it IS possible that the entire team was afk EoD1. Which would make it sad and hilarious that the whole fireworks-display was entirely Town-on-Town.

This would require some scum taht REALLY hate being scum. Like to have no interest in EoD would be insane to me. I assume (sometimes falsely) scum try to always play to their peek. I don't think that this is a likely scenario. The team then is something like road/bhuber/doc/dorian combo which is a lot of scummy people but the whole team seems like its hard pressed to be there.

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06-17-2015 , 09:18 PM

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Road/bhuber I'd both consider slightly more likely Town but it's not by much -- this is one instance where MIA-mafiosi would make a lot of sense, atleast one but possibly even two. So all of the people who weren't around do deserve scrutiny -- still, liked the little bhuber provided when he was around, and thought I saw road have some of that "town-zeal" you thought you saw in those consecutive posts by Ratchet.

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06-17-2015 , 09:21 PM

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It would be insane, yes, but I suppose something like Doc/Dorian/bhuber would be forced into it due to real life.

Not sure if any other teams would be, actually. road's Danish so if he was the sole Scummioso able to be around he would be able to handle the late hours. Dorian's also somewhat iffy since no way of knowing whether he actually was viewing EoD1 like he earlier said he would be.

Gonna stop here since not super-relevant, probably.

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06-17-2015 , 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Achromatic

Why are so many people connecting me to MSU? Maybe it's just the fact that I know I am town, but I don't get it.

You guys have played a game together before you lined up on ratchet. You were one of the first people to pull the pressure off MSU and turn it onto slendy towards EoD to name a couple things off the top of my head.

I think however pulling teams together is dangerous and I'd rather stick to finding one scum first and then moving on from there.

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06-17-2015 , 09:24 PM

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You guys are assuming an afk scum team would have actually planned out the Day 1 end of day.

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06-17-2015 , 09:24 PM

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Yeah. I am going to go back and reread today later but your interactions with ratchet cna you sum up where he falls for you atm?

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06-17-2015 , 09:25 PM

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You guys are assuming an afk scum team would have actually planned out the Day 1 end of day.

I think talking about an afk scum team much further is probably counter productive because we have 0 confirmed scum and a whole lot of speculation.

If you got to pick one person to resolve today who would it be?

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06-17-2015 , 09:26 PM

#1391

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I'll add slendy to my list of green for his very dynamic reading of me today. He went from feeling a little buddy to expressing what I think is genuine paranoia of me.

So now I have six names to work with, whoo this is fun.

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06-17-2015 , 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Achromatic

Why are so many people connecting me to MSU? Maybe it's just the fact that I know I am town, but I don't get it.

Basically, of all the Votes and Voters EoD1, assuming Ratchet is Town, you two had the Votes that seem (separately, not together) the most plausibly Scum ones. To my eyes atleast. Assuming neither of Riki/fonti is deep wolfing us.

Personally I think that unless MSU was really paranoid about possibly getting Lynched himself, you two don't really make that much sense as Scum together unless Dorian's the third one.

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06-17-2015 , 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TehBankertin

I'm debating between road, MSU and Achromatic.

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06-17-2015 , 09:30 PM

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Banks:

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Based on a reaaaaaally quick skim at random parts of games, I'd say it's possible Mafia!Ratchet tries to appeal to emotion more than Town!Ratchet, who seems much 'cooler' (except when they're annoyed by someone being ignorant in their opinion). Probably Town here if the hypothesis is correct.

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Allllso yeah the more I think about it the more implausible it seems that Mafia!Ratchet would 1) tunnel on me--Achro and 2) be so woefully ignorant of the Seer Hunt Kill -aspect, unless the entire Scumteam shared the ignorance in which case the cue-hit was a brilliant stroke of luck for them, as it seems to ONLY make sense as a SHK.

Plus the responses have seemed consistent and the "attacking every point" -defense smells of Town!indignance.

The latter is more relevant, the first one mainly an interesting hypothesis.

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06-17-2015 , 09:30 PM

#1395

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This is what you sound like.

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06-17-2015 , 09:32 PM

#1396

Achromatic

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I did admit not exactly liking making color coded lists. I'm trying for you ever so slowly, banker!

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06-17-2015 , 09:33 PM

#1397

Slendy

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Originally Posted by fontisian

You guys are assuming an afk scum team would have actually planned out the Day 1 end of day.

Dorian/bhuber/Doc could've been forced into inactivity by real life. But I think that's pretty much the only such team.

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06-17-2015 , 09:35 PM

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Banks:

The latter is more relevant, the first one mainly an interesting hypothesis.

Kind of agree. Although faking that from ratchet's viewpoint isn't difficult if Ratchet is scum definitely is going to be in the lime light and getting your hands dirty calling a couple of others that might be SHK scum would be fine since you're already out there as scummy scum.

I do think more likely not scum unless Ratchet wasn't involved in the night kill.

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06-17-2015 , 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Achromatic

I did admit not exactly liking making color coded lists. I'm trying for you ever so slowly, banker!

I appreciate the effort. I understand it might not be your process but it helps in mine. If you need something from me let me know as well.

I like to see where everyone is it also sometimes can polarize scum.

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06-17-2015 , 09:37 PM

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I'm going to be doing for a bit.

I think the filter thing I'm kinda fcked on unless my last thing will not work. I'll make a post explaining how to do it so others can look at filters later.

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