Fontisians push on slendy is so wolfy I almost want to gouge my eyes out.

Come on peeps.

Alright got **** done I needed to at work and ready to go!! Need to do some catching up. Will have this tab open who all is around atm?

Votes from post 9 to post 352
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
2	dorian78	Slendy (19), SmartBomb (15)
2	TehBankertin	DocEspana (12), Riki (33)
1	cue5c	fontisian (32)
1	DocEspana	Achromatic (31)
1	MSU	bhuber2010 (13)
1	road	cue5c (42)
1	SmartBomb	TehBankertin (82)
4	not voting	dorian78 (8), MSU (3), RatchetOPB (26), road (25)

it wasn't really meant to be anything big

if it was then i probably would've posted something a bit more than "like idk" lol

i was just looking for anything that might help me read dorian better

as for the bios, i think by default people would describe how they play as town since when they're scum they're often trying to replicate their town play, so i don't agree that the bios are completely meaningless but yeah that's definitely not my primary issue with dorian

Not me.

I suppose I'll actually explain my two mafia reads quickly for fear that time constraints will catch up to me here shortly:

MSU

He has so few posts that I'll quote them here for the sake of ISO'ing him quickly.

I have no prior meta/history with any of you so this is largely based on prior experience and not based on any past data on MSU. Regardless, his entry here screams of being "present" - not that this is necessarily alignment indicative (a villager too would desire this) - they're super level 0 based reads that have no real bearing on the game and are really just "fluff" under the guise of content/appearing to be following the game in some meaningful manner.

Whilst a lot of my "case" is tone/experience based (meaning there is very little circumstantial/objective evidence (cause lol at having that after 3 posts), MSU's re-entry a number of hours later is based on reads that arent really going to ruffle many feathers (i.e. someone who puts in just enough work to kind of stay under the radar/doesnt butt too may heads with people, which in turn, would raise awareness about his own contributions to the thread).

He's kind of an easy guy to pick on early cause he hasnt really been able to contribute much but statistically speaking wolves are, by nature, more reserved (barring a few spammy ass wolves) so he's probably a good person to prod tonight while I am slaving away at work.

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I actually think my case on fontisian is more objective in nature (based on the first two pages) - its become apparent I wont be able to catch up fully because I am a slow ass reader but I'll post my feels on him quickly as well.

i could see it

one thing i noticed was that his second reads list included a read of me that was based on a post i made like 5 minutes before which gave me the impression that he was following the thread pretty closely but not commenting much which isn't great

Meh, I am going to run out of time, I am basically going to highlight portions of a few posts and hopefully that will generate some discussion, of which I will comment on later. Hopefully some peeps will chime in.

Damn was hoping you could convince mafia to concede so I can watch the WSOP tonight.

I could try...

First off I'll highlight the parts that I wont be commenting on for now (mostly to see what others think first (then I'll chime in from work if I get a break).

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This is probably the least genuine push I have ever seen on someone in all of mafia, just saying.

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The justification/sponge he used to move from slendy to dos is pretty bad. Pretty easy to sponge a town's case against another town (assuming they're both town). Slendy already called him out for this earlier (i'd probably go back and quote slendy's post but I have to leave now - it was an excellent observation fwiw).


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The bold posts all have something in common (IMO). Will revisit here soon. The posts I quoted are off pages 1-2, its possible his posting has since gotten better but I'll address that when I get caught up fully.

Might need to talk directly to MSU.

So you're saying Mr. Bhuber Swift should focus more on MSU than Fonti?

Haven't gotten to Bhuber yet. I started from the beginning because I was so damn tired in the morning. I hate my early scum read on smartbomb reading it all at once I think. If he is on Fonti to thats fine shes a bit weird, I'm not sure how correlated her forum vs video mafia games are.

Thank you.

A lot of posts can do. I do want to hear about this wolf hunting process.

Can you talk to me about what you mean by "intense"?

Digging the progression going on between riki/achromatic. Riki could definitely have been coaching a town or a wolf bro there if he is a wolf and I like that achromatic pointed it out.

I perform a siege against mafia. In a battle they must post a bunch of content the more they have to post the more likely they are to screw up. I also get reads through interaction mostly and hard rereads of tone.

That and I really want a gold star.

Loads of times on video mafia with my favorite being where I made everyone but 2 people mafia in the same chat and the mafia weren't allowed to vote on the town and the win condition for mafia was to make the two town vote on each other. The mafia had to kill each other at night. Was more for my amusement, I don't even remember who won.

When the pillar of town goes to sleep things do get odd.

haha read this right after I made the post to cs5 about msu being a wolf. Bhuber rocking a green jersey I think.

I saw my avatar and thought I caught up. Not quite lol.

I want to expand about fonti. I feel like fonti is playing kinda like she does as villager on video mafia but definitely different from her day 1 on forums which is the only forum experience we have together minus a turbo. I think she is probably more town but I'm unsure how she plays forum as anything outside day 1. If I didn't know fonti's video play I think I'd call her a wolf. The hesitation is real. I think I'm getting nervous.

Ah. I believe I literally gave slendy "a point in his favor," which is a pretty weak townread from me, and it was for replicating his town play, and thus your point 2. Point 1 is a generality to use when unfamiliar with someone. Experience with a person's playstyle (which I've already said that I know one game isn't much, but all I have to work with), trumps generalities like that.

For example, we have a couple of players on our site that say and do the dumbest, scummiest stuff all the time. They used to get lynched for it all the time. They were inevitably not mafia. So now when they do that stuff that most of us think is scummy, most of us know that it's a sign that they're more likely innocent, because their playstyle trumps the generality.

It's why a game like this is so tough: most of us have little to no experience with each others' playstyles.

I notice you avoided my question about whether you think that we're all so good that our scum play should be indistinguishable from our town play. Even if that's not the conclusion you were trying to get me to admit, the question still stands.

No, I said the gut response would be to view that person as town. The logical thing, which I said I would be doing, is waiting to see how the votes play out so I could try to make a more informed, less gut-based decision.

Watching the cue/fontisian interaction has been helpful in that regard. Cue's joking style is tough for me to parse, but it's very obvious that behind it is someone who very much knows what they're doing. fontisian's initial reason for the vote seems fairly thin to me, as some people will make jokes no matter their affiliation. Cue's response, while a lot less jokey, was to suddenly start asking a whole lot of questions to a whole bunch of people, many of which didn't seem that didn't seem that difficult to answer. As if she(?) was trying to suddenly look active. I don't think they're both scum, but if one is, I'm still trying to work out which I think it is.

I like bhuber's entrance, just as an initial impression.

Its worrisome how much I'm town reading you. You're not even my peek. Same train of thought and stuff. Kinda getting excited about this.

He. :P

And you noticed the shift in my tone, did you? Wow, as mafia I wasn't expecting anyone to pick up on that. You say I seem to know what I'm doing. Do you think looking active was my intent?

not masons got it.

Sorry- it's been one of those Mondays where nothing has allowed me to do more. Hence I plan on doing more indept reads of everyone when I get home tonight. It really just has been a bad RL Monday.

I promise to do better!

Seriously, I'll be back in about 3-4 hours - a boys work is never done.

Sarcasm, aside, I do think it was your intent, or at least part of it. But everyone has an incentive to look active when someone else starts grilling them, so I'm trying to decide if it says much about you. Was it your intent? Did you have any other goals with the questions?

See ya in a couple hours MSU!