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05-12-2015 , 05:43 PM
LOL, Kami.
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05-12-2015 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by soah
because I'd rather lynch wolves than villagers

is this an unreasonable concept for you??
Nope, perfectly reasonable. This was the response/convo I wanted when I first asked what I felt was a reasonable question (and not an attack).

(Yes, I mentioned auto-lynch. I was giving you context for why I was asking at all. It was clearly needed, in retrospect, but I must have failed in explaining.)
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05-12-2015 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by spruce
LOL, Kami.
What is so funny
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05-12-2015 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by No Lynches
i wish i wasn't playing in three games at once. it takes up all my free time

but without further ado

spruce:

bit o fluff to start, dislikes riki telling him to not post 'weirdly'
not a lot of game discussion early on
has a good analysis post on whats going on
i get the impression that spruce watches and jokes but secretly has everyones intimate details written down along with everything they've ever said
alright i'm not going to bother- i read everything dude is town

enough said

like, just reading him on tone alone he's very solid, but hes clearly watching and paying attention and demonstrates that with his reads and alaysis

its easy to see his processes, he's a bit out there yeah, but i think he's probably town

solid town lean
you played with him in baldur's gate right? how does it compare
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05-12-2015 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by nolemonplease
Does everyone have asher as an evil read? Anyone here read him as good?
I decided that I have enough doubt about him that I'd prefer to push Gnawazan.

That's not to say that I actually read him as good. At least at this juncture.

And I'd also sorta prefer Gnawazan just because he's not ****ing here and hasn't done anything all game day not related to Phoenicks. At least if ash is a villager we'll potentially have an opportunity to figure it out in the next day or so.
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05-12-2015 , 05:47 PM
same question to spruce about no lynches
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05-12-2015 , 05:48 PM
I think Gnaw is townie tbh, I think his post was reasonable he just needs more.
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05-12-2015 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ashersky
Nope, perfectly reasonable. This was the response/convo I wanted when I first asked what I felt was a reasonable question (and not an attack).

(Yes, I mentioned auto-lynch. I was giving you context for why I was asking at all. It was clearly needed, in retrospect, but I must have failed in explaining.)
Okay I apologize for the misunderstanding.

I read the question as a rhetorical device. Still don't really see how it was productive, though.
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05-12-2015 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Kawamii
What is so funny
Your response in #537:

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05-12-2015 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Kawamii
I'm not going to make fake lists about my thoughts when in reality I don't have any.
My votes are an indication of my thoughts on who I find the least good because I really don't find anyone suspicious.
I'm not going to manipulate words and take them out of context to make a case out of nothing.

It's only day one and I see no point in overanalyzing nothing viable.
You don't need to do paragraphs-long walls, but like a sentence or two of explanation with votes would be nice at least.
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05-12-2015 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Phoenicks
Then I guess my big question about your reads list is: why asher and spruce? Their interactions don't look anything to me like scum vs. scum, but there is the manipulative element of scum vs. town.

No way, I think, would Spruce push the 'Soah is buddying' line quite so hard if they were both scum. Do you think they are?
well the first reason is that they're both there individually, i don't really try to look too deeply into interactions on d1 or before the first mafia flip

also i haven't actually seen that much of spruce pushing that line, unless that happened today and i haven't read it yet. i did think that spruce voting ashersky while kind of townreading him was weird and might indicate scum/town if spruce is scum (obviously means nothing if spruce is town) but yea i didn't really look into that much either
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05-12-2015 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Riki
well the first reason is that they're both there individually, i don't really try to look too deeply into interactions on d1 or before the first mafia flip

also i haven't actually seen that much of spruce pushing that line, unless that happened today and i haven't read it yet. i did think that spruce voting ashersky while kind of townreading him was weird and might indicate scum/town if spruce is scum (obviously means nothing if spruce is town) but yea i didn't really look into that much either

Replace "soah" with "asher" in my post because that's what I really meant, apologies.
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05-12-2015 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Lissa2
You don't need to do paragraphs-long walls, but like a sentence or two of explanation with votes would be nice at least.
I'll be sure to in the future
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05-12-2015 , 05:55 PM
Just retread Gnaw...there is really not much there. At all. What was the odd thing about pming the mod and not posting?
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05-12-2015 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ashersky
Just retread Gnaw...there is really not much there. At all. What was the odd thing about pming the mod and not posting?
He didn't understand that this was not a majority-lynch game.
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05-12-2015 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Phoenicks
Replace "soah" with "asher" in my post because that's what I really meant, apologies.
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well i don't actually remember spruce pushing that line either so uh
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05-12-2015 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by soah
He didn't understand that this was not a majority-lynch game.
A fair mistake if he didn't read the OPs...which isn't great, but whatever.

Not posting since seems like sour grapes from scum.
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05-12-2015 , 06:01 PM
Votes from post 8 to post 567
Night in 1:59:56

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VotesLynchVoters
2 Phoenicks Jrdrylie (33), Gnawazan (19)
2 Mashiii No Lynches (59), spruce (70)
2 Gnawazan soah (69), Riki (60)
2 Jrdrylie Lissa2 (29), nolemonplease (47)
1 spruce Mashiii (17)
1 ashersky notquitethere (13)
1 soah ashersky (41)
1 Lissa2 Kawamii (42)
1 unvote Phoenicks (50)
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05-12-2015 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by spruce
Day 1 cases where the Scum team hasn't actually conferred is even more problematic than regular Day 1 cases, which are usually more a shot in the dark than subsequent days. I'm not saying they're not there or can't be valid, just that the major wagons thus far have been on a weak case basis, if that.
why would you make association cases on day 1 in the first place
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05-12-2015 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ashersky
A fair mistake if he didn't read the OPs...which isn't great, but whatever.

Not posting since seems like sour grapes from scum.
The answer was posted in the thread a long time ago so I'm assuming his absence is for other reasons, but who knows.

I don't know what to make of it so I'm just ignoring it and focusing on his gameplay from while he was playing.
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05-12-2015 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Riki
same question to spruce about no lynches
Hey, I could always be wrong, but I made up my mind about No Lynches in the first posts of the game and I've seen nothing to dissuade me from that.

Someone brought up earlier that one of the advantages and, I don't know, even purposes of the championship series has been to avoid meta-reads on players from other games. It it really matters, you ask anyone on my home site and they'll always say, "spruce? Who knows", which kind of surprises me a bit 'cause I've always thought myself a pretty easy read.

In the baldur game (my only other game here - to get a pre-game feel of things), it was immediately noted (by wolves, btw) that my posting style seemed more serious than my lighthearted posts in the what, championship sign-up or check-in thread. Here, I'm said to be all fluff and nothing else, where that simply has not been true. I just like to enjoy a game that's a game and try to make it fun for others - championship or no. Do we really take ourselves so seriously?
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05-12-2015 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ashersky
The line you quote from yourself is the EXACT instance of buddying.

Let me rephrase: "OMG I can't believe anyone things Lissa is scum she's so awesome I love her NOOOOO I must save herrrrrrrr!"

That's buddying. I wasn't accusing you if doing it--that was self-evident. I was asking you WHY you did it.

And you have yet to provide an answer.
lolz

In all seriousness, this feels like a pretty exaggerated paraphrase to me. It's also kind of a loaded question.
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05-12-2015 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Riki
why would you make association cases on day 1 in the first place
It's helpful to figure out that one of your suspects can't actually be a wolf with any of your other suspects.

And, more generally, it helps you to realize that you're doing something very wrong if you can't get any set from your suspect pool to fit together as a coherent team.
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05-12-2015 , 06:06 PM
Has gnaw really not posted since that thing about whether there were majority lynches? I thought he had, like last night. I guess I should check.
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05-12-2015 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by spruce
Hey, I could always be wrong, but I made up my mind about No Lynches in the first posts of the game and I've seen nothing to dissuade me from that.

Someone brought up earlier that one of the advantages and, I don't know, even purposes of the championship series has been to avoid meta-reads on players from other games. It it really matters, you ask anyone on my home site and they'll always say, "spruce? Who knows", which kind of surprises me a bit 'cause I've always thought myself a pretty easy read.

In the baldur game (my only other game here - to get a pre-game feel of things), it was immediately noted (by wolves, btw) that my posting style seemed more serious than my lighthearted posts in the what, championship sign-up or check-in thread. Here, I'm said to be all fluff and nothing else, where that simply has not been true. I just like to enjoy a game that's a game and try to make it fun for others - championship or no. Do we really take ourselves so seriously?
I believe in you spruce senpai
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