I am gone from this thread and potentially the game in 2 hours.

Any final requests from the Pizzaman?

Remember, Capps, I'm not even looking at Turnip and I'm offering zero opinions on the matter unless you vote for Iso.

I dont like the turnip wagon for the sole reason that he has claimed fake peek on yates.

Scenario a, he is seer, scum have to deal with him and it clears him and yates, which sounds amazing right now. If they dont we win.

scenario b, he isnt the seer, and likely scum candidate. Scum either find the actual seer or he wins the game for us, who checks alltheway turnip in the process. If seer dies beforehand turnip will be high lynch candidate. But this is not the time for him.

Hahaha. Of course you wouldn't take a submissive stance on the offensive against me, because you don't want anything from me. In those posts I quoted you were trying to get something out of somebody.

You want me to peek him with my magical non-peeking powers and my never surviving the night powers? I could do that.

Is this all the fighting you're going to give me "looks like you don't see it the way i do... oh well!" Come on now have some WIM fight for yourself here man.

Why am I not a wolf for not seeing things your way? Can you show me the holes in capps case? I'm still trying to catch up or I would filter you myself.

This process reads as villagery.

Turnip just said "I am not manipulating people because when I talk to you capps, the guy I am voting for, I am not being manipulative."

I mean. Come on.

shawty we be all the wayyy turnip

Basing your vote on someone putting a peek in the thread is probably not the best EV.

Do you believe that turnip has done have been villagery? This is the question you should be asking.

I think lots of people have left peeks in the thread thats really awesome it provides great cover for the real seer. I wouldn't want to be a wolf this game because thats a lot to sort through.

Pizza, if you want me to vote Stardust Crusades, tell me why that vote is better than the Turnip vote.

I dont base my vote on it, iso has been scummier and my vote is on him for a reason.

Doesnt change the fact that it is +ev to leave turnip alive right now.

duh, I still think turnip is the best 2nd wagon. I will also accept a Hibiki wagon.

I appreciate what you're saying. I think both have a likelyhood of being wolves higher than almost anyone in the thread. ISO left seer cover as well and its on me which I know to be factually true and I'm still advocating for his lynch because his game content has been poor.

Why hibiki of all people?

@Banks

Hibiki to be discussed at length day 2. Keep it to two mains.

I know there are three wolves, village doesn't need to get fancy, we will confuse ourselves.

My previous game highlight was when my wolf buddy was getting a wagon on him of 4 votes and no one else really had any, I pushed my other wolf buddy hard, and then the two of us rode out the next couple of rounds easily.

Even if you catch a wolf, do not make it hard for village to read for the other wolf.

Please note the fancy footwork that can be involved if more than one wolf is being voted for heavily.

People considered you town before the peek, while the same thing cant be said about yates. Yates peek is questionable, your peek can be fabricated much easier, there is a difference between the two.

If you're going to tunnel vision on me and read into my intentions, I can't do much about how you perceive me. I would hope my gameplay will speak for itself because I'm trying to catch scum, but I realize I'm not going to be a major player in a thread of this size at the onset. And you say that I was just hanging out killing time, but to me, interacting with others in the thread is how I develop a lot of my reads, so it looks like we just fundamentally disagree on that point.

Just because you don't see things my way doesn't make you a wolf. I like your energy level and I currently feel like you're on the up and up.

The holes in capps' case are that he's interpreting my tone incorrectly and there's no way for me to really defend against it. He's reading intentions into my posts that just aren't there, sort of similar to what you're doing, but with capps I think it's because he's trying to keep me on the defensive.

Hey that's what im best at

IsoSTARDUST

MARRY
DGZ
Coolkid
Pizza

Bang
Yates
q_q
road
Adaham

People I need more from:
Soneji, I need you to show more effort you seemed good when in the thread but you slanked hard as a wolf with me in BG so it makes me VERY worried when you don't post a lot.
Hibiki (he is in my kill list because what I have I hate),
capps (kinda dependent on turnip in my mind capps can be clear if turnip is scum if he is not then i think capps is likely scum I just agree with him here.)

KILL
Iso
Turnip
Hibiki

Hibiki hasn't done **** all he has no WIM he isn't being talked about and that is like stereotypical slankfestival wolves.

They might be equal in strength, due to:


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I can see how Turnip could be Iso's partner, if Iso flips wolf.

Look at the progression:

NOTE: Dgz Confuse rei is voting for IsoSTARDUST but the vote counter didn't pick it up, he did revote and it counts now.

Note where Turnip is voting, and where Iso is voting.
Turnip also seems to be disinterested in voting for Iso.

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This which I was about to post.

There is more in-thread evidence that Iso is a wolf and a higher degree of accuracy in my mind.

If Iso lynches and flips wolf, Turnip can go next.

If Turnip is lynched and flips wolf, Iso might look better than he should, and it can be very confusing for village.

The order of operations matter even if you are lynching two wolves- one wolf always gets away.

Get the wolf that is most likely to be a wolf first, so those doubts aren't festering after the less likely wolf dies and flips wolf.

I trust you guys to know what I mean about the confusion involved.

You guys are individually very intelligent, but we as a group barely function intelligently.

We have to move as a team.

If I'm the captain of team village for Day One, my play has been called.

We don't run a pass play, we run to get that one yard we need, with our running back who kicks so much ass, he'll get us five easily.

We don't drop the ball and miss out on first down.

Trust your pizzaman. Pizza delivers.

Why not soneji then? Hibiki has at least some posts of value. Soneji has barely appeared

that's my question

I was giving an alternative to turnip for you. Saying we could make it Hibiki/ISO instead.

Not suggesting three wagons at all I'm aware of fancy plays and ****.

I know that last post was long, please read it and my case on Iso, @ ALL VILLAGERS

Case on iso: [LINK]