Okay I admit I didn't expect to turn you on by voting for you.

This first sentence makes no sense if you're town.

The second sentence is OK, but I haven't seen much of it from you, but it's still early.

i'd be inclined to assume that many players here are capable of doing a great many things as scum (this would seem a good reason for your respective sites to nominate you among other things). and that from the perspective of everyone else, i would suit the same assumption. so that i have been vaguely supported twice now (by Junkhead and Achromatic) does surprise me.

i also readily assume you're all capable of buddying me.

Just realize how odd this sounds...

Clarification: When someone says "his/her posts are odd" I want to know what specific posts otherwise it seems like a scum throwaway "Player A is pinging me" just to throw people off the scent.

I like to know what about the posts are pinging someone.

How does it make sense as scum?

Okay, read the entire game.

Things that stand out to me:

I like JJJ.

I like Junkhead save his cop claim to save a townie post, but am willing to give him that one.

I dislike Tortilla Grande or whatever his name is because his sidelining grants next to no insight on what he's actually thinking. It allows him to poke and prod where he feels he needs to without actually committing to much of anything.

I dislike almost everything Sapo has posted. Vote Sapo
For someone who doesn't want the thread filled with Cop filler (or is it simply just the "number noise"), he has done an awful lot of posting about cop theory and not much else. Now we have a vote on bcb who

out of the gate I would call as most likely to be Village Idiot.

I'll be back after I grab food and then should be around all day.

His start wasn't good IMO. These posts here are just bad advice for the cop.

I don't like this post and vote about Alpha's post. It was right after Saposhiente voted Alpha and appears to be an easy follow the leader vote that a wolf could make.

This post just makes no sense this early in a game when we have no meta on the other players.

This post contradicts his earlier vote on Alpha.

He starts to get a bit better after that, but I still get a wolfy vibe from him.

How have I been buddying up to you?

Giving you a town read isn't really buddying you up, there's no manipulative intent there, town players give other town players town reads too, that's how you POE.

Look I know you guys all want to advance and I get it. But keeping guilty results and even a townie result on someone as he's about to get lynched will cost us the game. If you save a townie, we get two confirmed town out of it. Mafia will kill the cop, leaving us with the confirmed town (Hopefully he has more then one result at that time, revealing this with another copped townie is smart play). Will stop a mislynch, and will revert attention unto someone else who's likely scum. If it happens day tow, and you only have that person copped as I see you're point, but as the cop I'd step forward day 3, stop a lynch, and reveal two townies in a ****ing heartbeat, stop being selfish ****s who want to catch scum. Town doesn't win with a selfish cop.

Also, lilrascal, you mention some of my other posts feel off to you. Maybe you're just not understanding where i'm coming from, care to see me what it is exactly you don't like about my posts so I can respond adequately?

i'd like to ask for anyone's perspectives of the 3-vote train which has quickly mounted for Bcb. i was the first vote, and the two that came soon after perturbed me a bit. my own relevance to the matter serves as a source of bias though (given that i initiated the suspicion myself). the other voters were saposhiente and MSU:

I was thinking of a possible FPS play by a scum here, but after thinking it through more, it doesn't make sense in either role.

I can see doing it with players that you have meta on, and that can elicit certain reactions.

But, I don't see the reason to do this at all in this particular game.

FPS = Fancy Play Syndrome

i don't necessarily think you were buddying me, and it should be stated that you substantiated your read less vaguely than others have. i merely acknowledged that i think you're capable of doing so in what is sure to be a game filled with talented players.

it would be illogical of me to default to the assumption that i am being buddied when i am lent support, yes.

See my post above yours.

lilrascal wishes I was that easy to catch as scum.

I'm here for my scum game, not my town game.

Also it's not meta, I explained the read more in depth later on, it takes time to fully come out in words sometimes. But that analysis wasn't helped and felt like a distraction, scum do to try and fine our cop. How is meta involved in that read?

i am going to have to have this tab open throughout the game. y'all use wack abbreviations. :P

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?..._Abbreviations

Saposhiente's vote is the more interesting IMO.

Sapo was second on the Alpha wagon that went to 3 votes and then moved to be second on the Bcb wagon.

you may have read lilrascal's post incorrectly, as i think i did on the first attempt. the post he was referencing as meta-relevant was below his assertion of meta-relevancy. not above. that's how the post was meant to be read.

lilrascal can correct me if this is untrue.

Here's some of my META for you all, Leading or following has nothing to do with my alignment. I'm prone to do both, will take the lead if I feel strongly about a scum read of if we are about to no lynch at my forum where they can happen (I believe no lynching is dumb as **** early on, flips help you find mafia, and they are necessary early on to bring about game worthy content) You can look at that person's interactions if scum.

On day one at my forum, i'd rather follow a random shot in the dark then have a no lynch.

As far as scummy behavior I might have been doing, following is the only thing I see as potentially scummy from my posts, however it simply isn't that easy.

I'll BRB guys, gonna get something to eat.

i agree with anyone who would oppose an early no lynch. i would generally prefer y'all lynch me before you lynch nobody at all. the flip post-lynch serves as the single most vital source of information whether it reads town or mafia. a Day 1 no lynch perpetuates insubstantial Day 1 accusations and renders Day 2 essentially Day 1B. no way.

I wouldn't call Alpha's post "analysis", it was more of a mathematical post. And calling it scummy without having meta on Alpha isn't really a read IMO. I don't know Alpha's style to make a read on it.

I did find the whole cop discussion to be more of a distraction, but there's not a lot to go on right now.

You are correct.

I actually agree with you on Sapo's post. For day 1, it seems like just joining a train for the funz.

I gave my reasons for my vote on BCB.

I reiterate that it's not the best topic but it's better than not talking, and it can be useful as long as people don't get too distracted by e.g. numbers. I talked about it because that was our topic at the time.
I have comment about my bcb vote but JJJ seems to want other people to look at it so I'll shut up for now.

if you have comments to make about anything, especially your Bcb vote, then you should absolutely make them. i definitely don't want to stifle your ability to explain yourself. everyone else will still be able to analyze your content however they might with or without your commentary.

indeed if you think it might help your case then why wait?