currently filling the timelady/UD box in my matrix of interactions.

just so you know

well, luckily for you you shall be happy

unless you're a wolf, in which case you should be sad that my lovely self is not in wolf chat with you

also, just a heads up, I'm gonna be in and out today (last day having a late Christmas with my family) and will be on a plane come EOD.

actually I had this idea recently and i think it's a super easy and useful thing to do

you just do a 12x12 matrix in Excel or whatever

and you fill it in at each post people interact. it makes it really easier to
1) observe the progression
2)notice the non-sensical ones
3)notice the subset of people avoiding each other

sorry if its standard, but i did not do that before

We're in dire need of a topic that isn't a type that a wolf can discuss freely.

Confirmedtroll's suggestion is fine and helpful, but roleneutral at the same time.
I'd be the one known as Alex from the danish community.

#53 is one of those insecure posts that I've seen from Smurf's wolfgame before. It could be caused by the fact he's in a new community, and he might feel outskilled.
I'm pretty sure he's out of his comfort zone at least. Anyway, I believe him to be villager at this point.

I also find UD's thought process in #35-36 villagery.

and since we're heads up, im usually running some hours before EOD, so i might arrive ITT at EOD at wolfy pop-ins times.

I'll try and set some alarms but I make no promises, it's already midnight :P

Plus this way I get to post a lot now, which is fun

I always mean to do things like this, but I forget...

Given the lineup, would you expect the wolves to avoid contact with each other?
I think this read is generally only applicable on rookie-wolves.
I'm well aware of you don't know the entire lineup, but I'd like you to answer based on the people you know.

hardcore/hoya w/w

No, it's not the only thing I have concluded from it.
I deduced that CPHoya reaction to that post was wolfy.

I'll repeat it.
Hardcore's post is not villagery, so either he has (voluntarily or not) fooled CPHoya, or he did not. If the latter is a wolf, he would have not give HardcoreUfo a village lean if the latter was also a wolf!

I actually should have explained this in my first post and I understand if you suspect me because of this.

I was always writing in a confident style in the 2 villager games I have played on this site.

I think CT can confirm this.

Villa I definitely think there's value regardless of the skill level of the wolves. I think it has more value with rookie wolves, but there's still something there with good wolves, as it will force them to take more definitive stances on each other, or at least they'll think that they'll have to.

The best wolves can do this quite naturally, but it generally takes two good wolves to have a believable w/w interaction.

TL how are your levels of WIM? If you could comment on a few others players just on what you've read so far before I go to bed it'd be fantastic. It doesn't have to be anything definitive, don't force anything, but just some thoughts on what you've read would be very helpful

Same for CT or anyone else who wants to :P

VillaPredator seems like a villager to me right now.

VD
#53 Aint insecure at all.
Its a very seriuos post, cause I find the Q very weird/wolfie. Perhaps U could pick it up if u need another topic to discuss ?

Why would I feel outskilled at this point ?
Im obv a little humble since this is my first 2+2 game, and in genereal i dont think i have the "here i am" attitude.

Yeah the main thing was that your thought process wasn't apparent until later. I saw it became apparent later which was part of you driving discussion.

Anyway, don't forget that what's true for you won't necessarily be true for others (villagers can have the weirdest thought processes sometimes). I see what you're saying but it's also true that Hardcore has made wolfing more difficult for him in this game if he is one

In my first village game on POG, I voted for myself at f5 whilst having another vote for me, thus risking being majjed for quite a long time.
I do not want to say what happened in my second villa game (MtG) since it's still going on, even thout I already died.
But you can look at my day1 and day2. I promise it's a fairly easy read.

Askingfor votes it's absolutelynot awolf tell from me.

And I haven't said "Meh, vote for me if you wish. That's OK".
I said "People should push and vote their suspects".
So if you suspect me, like captain binkles, you should vote for me and get reactions from me and from other people.

You are voting me because you interpreted that I was okay/resigned to be voted.

Spot the difference?

Villa checking in.

First off, I'll answer confirmedtroll.

I dont know who Villapred is, but I have a clue..

Been playing like 5 games with toga, bk and chrja.

On top of my head:
BK: Good at clearing himself and I feel like he is the player I have the best read on.
Toga: Skilled at making cases and pointing out stuff that I personally miss. Highly active as villa.
chrja: Has a lot of different aproaches to the game. Very good at mixing it up. Is usually hard to clear.

As for me: No idea in remaining unknown. The idea was If I randed wolf, you could not have any tells on me, but since I did not, it is more +ev for the danish player to know who I am: I have NEVER randed wolf. Now they know ;-)

Haven't read any 2+2 games, so my observations is strictly based on our danish forum.

walle confirmed lasval

Btw - one of the reasons i joined this was, to get a fresh start.
I have a desire to re-structure my ww game, so danish players:
If you can, I hope you will at least give me a chance before you say im wolf just becuase my attitude and style is a little diff. (u wont regret if u do)

Since Mcavoy is not here atm - would someobe else like to comment on #53 ?
Why would someone ever want to ask another person for new players ww level ?
Dont give me the obv "cause he wants a better read on u" answer

Ohhh Villapred is Alex...

Gotta get used to this english... takes a bit more time to read the thread than usual. No wonder...

I find all the danes villagery except chrja, but he usually starts late.

I am totally lost on rest :P

Is pretty common smurf?

If new players join and you know some of them have been playing together, would'nt you be interested in knowing how the new players act/react?

Is pretty simple to me.

But I've might missed something?

I think I've gotten plenty of reactions from not voting you now, actually

I'm not 100% here, but I think that rather than asking how good everyone was, he was actually asking about which specific skills each person had, so do you think you are really good at clearing yourself? or finding wolves? or finding villagers? Or as a wolf do you think your best skill is avoiding your own lynch, or lynching others, or something else, etc.

I will say you need to be wary with McAvoy, because he's a huge spazz and generally you should read him backwards (if he's being wolfy and annoying and confidently saying a bunch of random nonsense then he's probably a villager, if he's trying to fit in and make villagery sounding posts, then he's probably a wolf).

I'm not sure why he'd ask that, I assume he has his reasons though, he often likes to take newer players under his wing and mentor them a bit.

Hi

Thanks for the info, what do you think of their posts so far?

Also here's a picture

Im off to some workout, I'll check in later and read the thread again (and probally again after that) and hopefully come up with some usefully

Later.

I couldn't imagine playing ww in a second language. I'm very impressed by those who do (and that seems to be more than half the game here!)

In fact Hoya, McAvoy and Anarchist are the only North Americans in this game, wow.

confirmedtroll