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01-17-2013 , 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Toganim
slight villalean btw - this line of thinking was used as a villager on the danish forum (by him I think). Seems he is in a villa state of mind
Confirmed.
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01-17-2013 , 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
That was a double fail.
Vote: CPHoya
You're saying that you think Hardcore's post is wolfy. And you're not sure whether CPHoya is a wolf, or a villager that has fallen for Hardcore's post.

Then why do you vote CPHoya over Hardcore?
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01-17-2013 , 06:23 AM
I dont mind hoyas post. He's not wrong per se, and he may just have been focusing on something else then I/we focus on. I like predators posts except his intro about being ironic
This could turn out to be some danish dynamite villa game

villapredator, care to tell me who you are ?
same goes for walle
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01-17-2013 , 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by VillaPredator
You're saying that you think Hardcore's post is wolfy. And you're not sure whether CPHoya is a wolf, or a villager that has fallen for Hardcore's post.

Then why do you vote CPHoya over Hardcore?
Huh?
I wrote that Hardcore's post might be roleneutral or wolfy. I am yet unsure which of the two is this.
Since I do not think that post is villagery, I am suspicious of CPHoya's reaction.

I voted CPHoya to put him under pressure and try to make him elaborate.
HardcoreUFO has claimed to have gone to bed. Even if he is not, he won't respond to me right now.
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01-17-2013 , 06:29 AM
Even if he has not*
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01-17-2013 , 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Toganim
I dont mind hoyas post. He's not wrong per se, and he may just have been focusing on something else then I/we focus
I do not get this part, and would really appreciate if you could elaborate.
Especially on the italicized part.
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01-17-2013 , 06:35 AM
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I do not think that Hardcore's post is villagery, so I find Hoya suspicious for giving him an early village lean for it.
Or Hoya might just have fallen for it, as I said above.
That's what I mean by the w/w comment.

In fact,

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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
Huh?
I wrote that Hardcore's post might be roleneutral or wolfy. I am yet unsure which of the two is this.
Since I do not think that post is villagery, I am suspicious of CPHoya's reaction.
This is wierd- like wolfy wierd or brainfart villagery wierd. not sure wich yet.
First off, im not liking the read on hoya. The post may not have been villagery, but the part that hoya focused on was (or at least it's plausible that hoya would think that is was). If you feel that hoyas villalean was out of order, it still does not explain your w/w comment in the top qopte.
You do not find the post villagery : I can dig that, neither did I
You do not think that hoya can justify his post: I disagree but w/e

If you find a post wolfy, and someone else giving it villalean for no reason, you should consider it a possible w/w interaction. This is due to the below situations being ruled out:

If the original poster (ufo) was a villager and the second poster (hoya) was a wolf, then the wolf would try to incriminate the villager instead of giving him villaread.

I dont think you can justify ruling out w/w on that part.

Please explain if I misunderstand something
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01-17-2013 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
I do not get this part, and would really appreciate if you could elaborate.
Especially on the italicized part.
hoya is not wrong in what he is saying - he is just focusing on something else then we are. He's saying that he like ufo being geniune and future plans.

We say we do not like him talking about his wolfgame (among other stuff).

It's not like hoya is taking a wolfy thing and spinning it, he's just focusing on something else.

example:
I say: The hobbit is a great movie cuz its beautiful and have a great story

you say: liar, everyone knows the hobbit is a bad movie because its soooooooooooo long

we may not even disagree that its long or beautiful and have a great story- we just focus on different stuff
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01-17-2013 , 06:46 AM
@Toga and Villa
Allthough i like the villaleans you give me - I cant take the credit.
I do not think I was the one doing that thinking on our danish forum - but the thought process is interesting imo.

Because I still find it harder as wolf to point out villa'ish posts from ppl - than reverse.

Because of that I can not give CPHoya any wolf points.


Sidenote:
Really nice to be in a game with a lot of ppl I havent played with before. Takes a lot of the prejudices away - which for me is quite healthy
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01-17-2013 , 06:46 AM
My #31 is a fail, since quoted text is alway italicized. I meant to italicize the not wrong per se.

As for the rest.
CPHoya referred to a small part of Hardcore's post.
Even if that part alone could be considered villagery, it is simply wrong to give a village lean, albeit small, for part of the post if the rest of said post is not villagery!
So CPHoya either thinks the rest of Hardcore's post is villagery or at least not wolfy.

I am not completely ruling out a w/w, but I do not think it is, and would be really surprised if it turned out so.

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If the original poster (ufo) was a villager and the second poster (hoya) was a wolf, then the wolf would try to incriminate the villager instead of giving him villaread.
I give wolf leans to people whose posts do no make sense to me.
Have you never really seen a wolf giving an early village learn to a villager?
For example, if Hoya is a wolf and Hardcore is not, Hoya could try to get credit when/if Hardcore flips.
Or he could just be trying to appear villagery.
I am surpised at your surprise.
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01-17-2013 , 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Toganim
hoya is not wrong in what he is saying - he is just focusing on something else then we are. He's saying that he like ufo being geniune and future plans.

We say we do not like him talking about his wolfgame (among other stuff).

It's not like hoya is taking a wolfy thing and spinning it, he's just focusing on something else.

example:
I say: The hobbit is a great movie cuz its beautiful and have a great story

you say: liar, everyone knows the hobbit is a bad movie because its soooooooooooo long

we may not even disagree that its long or beautiful and have a great story- we just focus on different stuff
Toganim, if he liked a part of a post but disliked a different one (even if completely unrelated) he would have certainly commented on the disliked part.
He did not.

I am not saying that CPHoya is a wolf.
But I am suspicious of him and that is a good enough reason to vote him.
I'd also like to interact with HardcoreUfo, but he is probably not here.
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01-17-2013 , 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
I give wolf leans to people whose posts do no make sense to me.
Have you never really seen a wolf giving an early village learn to a villager?
For example, if Hoya is a wolf and Hardcore is not, Hoya could try to get credit when/if Hardcore flips.
Or he could just be trying to appear villagery.
I am surpised at your surprise.
I have seen wolf give villagelean to villagers loads of times. But not of the basic of a wolfy post (at least the rest of us find it wolfy).
There would be no credit if hardcore flips villager, and hoya is potentially locking himself into not being able to vote ufo.
I'm not surprised of your surprise at me being surprised
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01-17-2013 , 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
Toganim, if he liked a part of a post but disliked a different one (even if completely unrelated) he would have certainly commented on the disliked part.
He did not.

I am not saying that CPHoya is a wolf.
But I am suspicious of him and that is a good enough reason to vote him.
I'd also like to interact with HardcoreUfo, but he is probably not here.
I'd love comments from hoya and ufo on theese issues but we'll have to wait.

I have to admit that even if I was suspicious of him, i'd probably not vote him today.

We need a new subject untill ufo/hoya returns.
Can someone tell me if anar changed his way of playing? I remember him being mr spammy
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01-17-2013 , 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Toganim
I have seen wolf give villagelean to villagers loads of times. But not of the basic of a wolfy post (at least the rest of us find it wolfy).
Why would you think he would anticipate that we would find Hardcore's post wolfy?
It can get a lot of villa points from distraced citizens who open the thread later and start skimming.
Hell, even I am not sure that post is wolfy. I just think it's not villagery.

Let's play strawman. Suppose that what I wrote above is incorrect.
Wolves can also make "controversial" reads to claim massive village points
later. I know because defended a hygely suspected villager on my first WW game on pog.
When he flipped villager, I got so much village points from it I got shot by the neutral SK (I was a wolf).

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There would be no credit if hardcore flips villager, and hoya is potentially locking himself into not being able to vote ufo.
There would be no credit if Hardcore flips villager?
It depends from how the rest of this day goes, but if Hardcore gets mislynched and he tries to oppose it, he will get the village points.
If Hardcore does something stupid later, he can easily vote him.
I, for example, can easily unvote CPHoya if he comes here and will make some good points. Or, better, if he was villaging. Would it make me suspicious?
I do not think so.

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I'm not surprised of your surprise at me being surprised
I retract my previous surpise at your surprise.
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01-17-2013 , 07:16 AM
Standard opening
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01-17-2013 , 07:17 AM
TOGANIM!
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01-17-2013 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Toganim
I'd love comments from hoya and ufo on theese issues but we'll have to wait.

I have to admit that even if I was suspicious of him, i'd probably not vote him today.

We need a new subject untill ufo/hoya returns.
Can someone tell me if anar changed his way of playing? I remember him being mr spammy
I will likely take a break after this post since I do not want to reach 80 by midday, but there's never a downside in voting suspicious people, or even people whom you do not really suspect, but would like to react and give you info.
The unvote option is our friend.
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01-17-2013 , 07:27 AM
True, he could not anticipate it. From my POV it was a wolfy post, but I shouldn’t expect others to think it as well. I had to reread your comment on it, since I was actually pretty sure you found it wolfy as well. Apparently I misread that part.
I do not agree that people should get villagepoints for defending people, they should potentially get villapoints for their way of doing it. I’m pretty sure that most people will agree on this point.
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01-17-2013 , 07:31 AM
sup mac - do we have beef or are we cool?

10th post - got plenty left
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01-17-2013 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Toganim
We need a new subject untill ufo/hoya returns.
Can someone tell me if anar changed his way of playing? I remember him being mr spammy
He is no longer a spambot but he has morphed into a solid villager who draws nk's like crazy, he is also probably the second best person at reading me.


Tell me about your Danish friends, what skills does each excel at?
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01-17-2013 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Toganim
I do not agree that people should get villagepoints for defending people, they should potentially get villapoints for their way of doing it. I’m pretty sure that most people will agree on this point.
I agree.
But they often do, even though they shouldn't.

Out for real, unless I see something I can't resist answering again.
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01-17-2013 , 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Toganim
sup mac - do we have beef or are we cool?

10th post - got plenty left
I never have beefs with anyone, well maybe some people who don't put in effort but I can see that wont be the case
This game with you.

My phone is being annoying and I'm not going to correct it turning everything in haikus.
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01-17-2013 , 07:37 AM
And I have never played with Anarchist before.
I have played twice with binkles, once with HardcoreUFO, CPHoya and chrja.
confirmedtroll has probably a decent read on me since he was the mod in my very first game.
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01-17-2013 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by McAvoy
He is no longer a spambot but he has morphed into a solid villager who draws nk's like crazy, he is also probably the second best person at reading me.


Tell me about your Danish friends, what skills does each excel at?
Before Toga answeres this - Im really curious how you measure skills in ww
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01-17-2013 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by XXXsmurfXXX
Before Toga answeres this - Im really curious how you measure skills in ww
Usually by the size of your epenis
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