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I realize NOW sun that you're probably just on a different time zone than me which would explain you posting at 8am and then disappearing. I guess that's you posting then going to sleep. To me, assuming we're both on the same timezone (I'm on server time) it looked like you had been around all day since 8am at thread open and not contributing at all except for 4 posts than said absolutely nothing

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08-07-2020 , 02:51 PM

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Sun Tzu

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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader

If Birdman does something I will concede I may be wrong and unvote.

He has 30 minutes from the time of this post to do it.

what was the thing you wanted him to do?

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08-07-2020 , 02:55 PM

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Sun Tzu

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Originally Posted by crackedquads

Sorry accidental post

I realize NOW sun that you're probably just on a different time zone than me which would explain you posting at 8am and then disappearing. I guess that's you posting then going to sleep. To me, assuming we're both on the same timezone (I'm on server time) it looked like you had been around all day since 8am at thread open and not contributing at all except for 4 posts than said absolutely nothing

I made 1 post when the thread opened at 5am my time. I'm not usually up that late but it's not that rare either. Then I went to sleep and when I got back a few hours later I was a little disappointed that the thread was still only on page 2 and nothing had happened. Then everyone started posting how different I was and how I wasn't contributing and stuff and I dealt with that for a bit but moved as quickly as possible onto more useful things.

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08-07-2020 , 02:55 PM

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So I've spent a lot of time thinking about xkf as the seer hunt peek and I'm starting to waver.

I've been operating under the assumption that wolves would never assume dmk peeked VR, hence did is wolf is next obvious choice. But I think my error is that I may be incorrectly assuming the wolves will have the same thought process and frankly I don't think the player group has any reason to come to that conclusion.

But if xkf is not the wolf, VR has got to be absolutely the worst vote as she immediately becomes the most likely peek from the wolves perspective.

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08-07-2020 , 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Outdrawed84

For me, in order of most likely to least, its:

1) dmk was killed as some sort of spk/reads were on the right track situation
2) cc = villager
3) VR = villager
4) xkf = wolf

the interesting thing is that 1 increases the likelihood that cc is villa, vr is villa, or xkf is wolf anyways, right?

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08-07-2020 , 02:59 PM

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like people that believe it was reason (1) should arrive at mostly the same conclusions as people who thin it was any of the other reasons as far as what are good wagons today, right?

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08-07-2020 , 03:00 PM

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Sun Tzu

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

yeah, exactly

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08-07-2020 , 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

I do not understand the cc villa thought. At all. If dmk was actually the seer and that was his peek I'd yell at him for days

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08-07-2020 , 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bsball8806

can you explain why you don't like an xkf vote? who would you like to see go, instead?

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lol I don't find this surprising

I personally thought XKF was pretty villagery yesterday and after seeing him wolf in his last wolf game I think it's unlikely he's one here. If he's the consensus fake of dmk's then I need to reevaluate, I'm going to iso dmk at some point and look for fakes. Half the argument against him today is also predicated on me being a wolf that he's trying to save which I know isn't true

I'd like UD/IR2M wagons, maybe sun

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08-07-2020 , 03:01 PM

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xkf thinks its exclusively (2), or at least I should say that is what he SHOULD think based on everything else he has done given he voted VR. But imo he is not really thinking like a villager lol which is why what he is doing isn't making much sense.

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08-07-2020 , 03:02 PM

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I'm going to give birdman some v points for stating that anything makes vr more likely to be a villager after doing everything he can to make vr look bad

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08-07-2020 , 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by crackedquads

set aside the fact that you know your role

did you read his posts? do you think he's being villagery, or do you think he's just wrong and a bit derpy?

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08-07-2020 , 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Right, I didn't understand that you were hours ahead of me. Now that absence makes more sense.

The post contribution/count comparison doesn't though. I 100% had posted more and contributed more in my ~10 mins vs those FOUR posts of yours I quoted that you made over six hours (plus the few you made after I voted for you)

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08-07-2020 , 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by crackedquads

you haven't contributed anything at all even at this point

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08-07-2020 , 03:07 PM

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the thing that is crazy to me is that if you are xkf, and you are a villager, then you *know* you aren't a peek so you would immediately have to give credence to the idea that either VR or CC is dmk's n0 villa peek. instead he comes in hot voting VR and trying to wagon her. It's like he never considered that it isn't going to be immediately clear to the village why dmk was killed. Like he never even thought about VR being a peek. Which is what you do if you are wolf xkf and killed dmk because you thought he had peeked you. It feels like he just got too anxious and made a mistake.

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08-07-2020 , 03:09 PM

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It's like the methinks the lady doth protest too much or whatever. He was already arguing SUPER hard that he wasn't a peek when people were still like "hmm it could be xkf = wolf or there are some other options we aren't sure" and he is already wagoning VR!

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08-07-2020 , 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bsball8806

set aside the fact that you know your role

did you read his posts? do you think he's being villagery, or do you think he's just wrong and a bit derpy?

I read every one of his posts yesterday but I've just skimmed over a lot of his screaming posts today. I'll take a closer look at them in a bit with your question in mind

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08-07-2020 , 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by crackedquads

UD is meh but there are def better

IR2M and sun tzu wagons are both pretty bad

i find it odd also that sun and xkf were both on you pretty hard yesterday for the "previous wolf game" thing but you're semi-clearing xkf but wanting to wagon sun. i'm sure you're going to say it's for other reasons but given your (lack of) general participation in this thread i'd like to know what those reasons are

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08-07-2020 , 03:10 PM

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for him to wagon VR in that spot and be a villager he should have been locking clearing CC itt instead of like hours into d2 me asking him about it and him going "hm yeah CC is probably clear"

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08-07-2020 , 03:10 PM

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he was't thinking about other potential peeks because last night he sent in an NK of dmk thinking dmk had peeked him wolf

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08-07-2020 , 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

I believe he said he hadn't looked for dmk's peeks so didn't know it might have been VR. Do you think he's lying/fake derping that?

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08-07-2020 , 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Birdman10687

i mean, if he's a villager, he probably didn't even read dmk's posts before coming in and voting VR - right?

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08-07-2020 , 03:12 PM

#1573

Sun Tzu

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Originally Posted by Xkf

and when i doubled down it always devolves into like weird language-y arguments that are so incredibly granular that the point becomes really just trying to win the argument or convince everyone else you'll argue anything to death so avoid engaging or else

this is a good description of what cq is still doing today

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08-07-2020 , 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by crackedquads

I believe he said he hadn't looked for dmk's peeks so didn't know it might have been VR. Do you think he's lying/fake derping that?

i don't know, I need to go back and read the beginning of the day again

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08-07-2020 , 03:15 PM

#1575

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Originally Posted by Xkf

I'm eating, I'm not seriously a wagon am I

I just clicked back a bunch of pages to go read beginning of d2 and this was the top post of the page I clicked to

kind of funny that he said this but then today said that people voting for him were voting "off wagon"

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