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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
the reason i do not think it should be allowed is that, as no one has responded to, what if someone actually did actually quit over something they brought up in a game? like how do we know xander wasn't serious?
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people post that kind of stuff all the time. "i never do XXX as a wolf, how can you not see i'm a villager?!" and my response is always just "sounds like a leak, start posting that as a wolf". same applies here imo. i think it's all just stupid in the first place.
but again, i know i'm outnumbered here and i don't really have a reason to fight it. it just feels wrong to me for some reason. this isn't like books saying "how does wolfchat even work these days" and stuff like that.
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to me, if xander was a wolf and then quit pog, then ok. sounds like the problem is solved. he's not going to make those types of posts anymore because he won't be here to make them. would he actually quit pog though? probably not. so why can't he post that as a wolf as a lie? i don't see a problem w/ that. but that's because if he's going to actually quit because he gets lynched as a wolf, then i dont' really care. and if he's just using it to try to stay alive, i also don't really care
Quoting these parts here to respond to and the discussion is likely running it's course-- but part of the issue is improperly framing this and people should again go back to what benneh said. But it isn't about the emotional manipulation or whether or not it is clearing.
And it isn't even about whether the posts
could be made by a wolf. I'll still argue that Xander is never a wolf making those posts but people can disagree. I want to see evidence though.
The issue is about forcing other players to have to wonder about whether or that's something he can say as a wolf. And for sure we do this all the time in ww. We ask ourselves "does Billy make that vote at 00 as a wolf or make that post in this spot? Or "does Mrs JonnyD do all that spreadsheet work in HP as a wolf? But those are based on in-game context.
We should not be asked to question whether people take real life threats that they make seriously or not. It opens way too many cans of worms for ww. We'd be forced to start having to think "oh...so and so's threats are worthless but when VR she's she'll eat a steak she's super serious". That's a different game than we've ever played.