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08-13-2020 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
I can't believe that we have had a four day argument about something and dustin, birdman, and I are in complete agreement!!??!!

Did I fall into a parallel universe while I wasn't looking?
Probably good sign that you need to change sides when you are in same boat with these two.
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08-13-2020 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Willi
Probably good sign that you need to change sides when you are in same boat with these two.
lol

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08-13-2020 , 02:29 PM
dmk keeps saying it was "I'll quit if I get lynched" when it was "I'll quit if I'm a wolf"

pretty sure he's a wolf
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08-13-2020 , 02:36 PM
but to join dmk on the devil's advocacy, if xander is a villager, he's not quitting and if he's a wolf, he's not quitting

so quitting has nothing to do with it and the question is only what roles he does or doesn't make that post as, but that's true for every post
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08-13-2020 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
the reason i do not think it should be allowed is that, as no one has responded to, what if someone actually did actually quit over something they brought up in a game? like how do we know xander wasn't serious?
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Originally Posted by dmk
people post that kind of stuff all the time. "i never do XXX as a wolf, how can you not see i'm a villager?!" and my response is always just "sounds like a leak, start posting that as a wolf". same applies here imo. i think it's all just stupid in the first place.

but again, i know i'm outnumbered here and i don't really have a reason to fight it. it just feels wrong to me for some reason. this isn't like books saying "how does wolfchat even work these days" and stuff like that.
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Originally Posted by dmk
to me, if xander was a wolf and then quit pog, then ok. sounds like the problem is solved. he's not going to make those types of posts anymore because he won't be here to make them. would he actually quit pog though? probably not. so why can't he post that as a wolf as a lie? i don't see a problem w/ that. but that's because if he's going to actually quit because he gets lynched as a wolf, then i dont' really care. and if he's just using it to try to stay alive, i also don't really care
Quoting these parts here to respond to and the discussion is likely running it's course-- but part of the issue is improperly framing this and people should again go back to what benneh said. But it isn't about the emotional manipulation or whether or not it is clearing.
And it isn't even about whether the posts could be made by a wolf. I'll still argue that Xander is never a wolf making those posts but people can disagree. I want to see evidence though.
The issue is about forcing other players to have to wonder about whether or that's something he can say as a wolf. And for sure we do this all the time in ww. We ask ourselves "does Billy make that vote at 00 as a wolf or make that post in this spot? Or "does Mrs JonnyD do all that spreadsheet work in HP as a wolf? But those are based on in-game context.
We should not be asked to question whether people take real life threats that they make seriously or not. It opens way too many cans of worms for ww. We'd be forced to start having to think "oh...so and so's threats are worthless but when VR she's she'll eat a steak she's super serious". That's a different game than we've ever played.
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08-13-2020 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
dmk keeps saying it was "I'll quit if I get lynched" when it was "I'll quit if I'm a wolf"

pretty sure he's a wolf
Yeah he's wolfing here. He's a better villager than this.
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08-13-2020 , 02:53 PM
in-game vs out-of-game is an important distinction

another one is how things affect people

if xander is a villager there, and I clear him, I'm never going to feel good about the game

if xander is a wolf there and people clear him, his teammates and maybe also some villagers may never feel good about the game

if I make a correct or incorrect call on whether someone busses or self-votes or says they'll flip several tables, that's never going to make me feel like the game was ruined
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08-13-2020 , 03:43 PM
Well I'm certainly not a wolf so I'm gonna have to go for the other wagon here dmk
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08-13-2020 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
Well I'm certainly not a wolf so I'm gonna have to go for the other wagon here dmk
I will retire from POG if Xander is a wolf here.
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08-13-2020 , 07:12 PM
nice knowing you Willi

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
NIGHT
Do not post.
I'm in a Bojangles parking lot but I'll have a write-up in a bit.
Xander is dead. We can talk about it all postgame and that's what we're going to have to do because I don't want it discussed during the game.

The Indian Wolf ranges from Southwest Asia to the Indian subcontinent. It is considered a subspecies of Gray wolf but typically has smaller packs and is less vocal than other varieties. Villagers have reduced its population down to between 2,000 to 3,000 individuals, and it is considered endangered. Separating the Indian Wolf into a separate species has been proposed by mammologists, although this is not universally accepted.
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08-13-2020 , 07:26 PM
You were Indian wolf. Not going to retire from Pediatric Oncology Group over that.
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08-13-2020 , 07:38 PM
also you said "Xander" and I am xander biscuits
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08-14-2020 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
But is it harder for you to not post 150+ times a day? That makes me want to quit.
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08-14-2020 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
i think we can all agree that the best way to solve this is all go sign up for my light hearted politics game
I'm in but just so you all know if I get lunched I'm never playing another game again
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08-14-2020 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by xander biscuits
also you said "Xander" and I am xander biscuits
just ooc, how is a xander biscuit different from a chocolate chip biscuit or an oatmeal biscuit? Is it an especially good biscuit?
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08-14-2020 , 03:39 AM
Back in the late 90s when getting my first email address xander was taken. XanderLastName was taken, xander_LastName was taken. It was suggesting LastName_xander_BirthYear. No thank you. Also what would be available for the next thing I signed up for? Surely couldn't guarantee getting the same thing everywhere.

So I decided on xander biscuits. Has no meaning and it's only purpose is to be something guaranteed to be available anywhere I want to sign up for anything.
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