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Votes	Lynch	Voters
1	iraisetoomuch	Montecore (19)
4	not voting	iamnotawerewolf (0), iraisetoomuch (6), JMurder3 (3), sugabat (0)

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Can we just hurry up and maj IRTM so we can get to f3

ianaww can't really ever be a wolf with how d1/2 went down (with slighted/NL/suga ginning up a ianaww wagon as a counter to slighted/NL -- it makes even less sense to do that if NL is a villager)

Gun to my head I'd probably vote suga over JMurder tomorrow for now in italics, but I'd probably actually read the game

I caught something from the kids & was up a lot of the night throwing up. Not sure how quick I'm willing to make this decision & hope IANAWW weighs in soon & has actually read stuff.

Well it's a decision between me and IRTM, functionally

I'll be around all day, so feel free to ask me questions as required

Yup.

The 1st question is how suga/IRTM ended up on Crimson & what the plan was?

I've always discounted that scenario because it's a power bus move & I don't see those 2 power bussing Crimson/Slighted.

That's not really the question at all

The question is which of Monte and IRTM is a wolf

If you think I'm the kind of person that is willing to bus a teammate that was under essentially no pressure d1 in order to ensure that he gets lynched over (hopefully) v!ianaww, then I can really be a wolf with anyone

So trying to parse whether or not I can be a tammate with suga is putting the cart before the horse

Could I be a wolf that decided to bus Crimson for essentially no reason and induced my frozen wolfbro suga to follow me? I mean, sure, it's not expressly disallowed by the physical laws of the universe. I can pretty confidently say that I'd never do it, though

JMurder, can you walk through your complete NAs again?

I mean what IRTM's plan d1 was is obviously important. N1 - sub in with mushroom, swap out for leaf.

N2 - leaf Monte, live with regrets about not leafing Manasi. Get fireball.

N3 - save 60% fireball for today when I would put it in @ exactly 7 my time with hopefully more info.

What are your NAs?

Just making sure the percentages added up

So you got your fireball n2 after presumably angeling me

20% during the day yesterday, 40% last night, would have been 60 today?

That fits, at least

Yeah, it's dumb, but the truth.

I said as much yesterday, but

Ice Flower n0; exchanged it n1 (without using it, for fear of blocking a potential angel target) for a fire flower

Let that marinate until yesterday and blasted coder in the face with a 60% vig, which missed

Now I got {redacted item} last night, that may or may not be useful this evening

I guess part of my concern is that now that NL is a villa & my worldview is shook, your big NL push does seem a bit agenda driven.

However, you mentioned the wanting in it yourself, which is kind of a good look.

The main thing that I need is a walkthrough of the major decisions & the logic if the team really is Slighted/Crimson/IRTM/suga.

That & I need IANAWW because I need to vote with him today always.

JMurder, if I'm a wolf, I kill NL first, not slighted

And whether or not you vote with ianaww is irrelevant

If you vote for me, the village loses (assuming you're a villager) irrespective of what he does

Re: my "big NL push", there were good reasons for that

His entry post where he said Crimson was the wolfiest poster, the crickets thereafter when Crimson became a wagon, hitching his wagon to slighted d2 to try to kill presumed v!ianaww

I feel bad he flipped villager, but to claim I was the only person pushing him is a bit disingenuous

That's potentially valid. Even though Slighted would always die next & it would be a real bad look for you. If there were no fireballs at play, that would be a less compelling argument, but there are.

I mean, there's no way for you to know this, but

I would have had a 40% fireball that night

Potentially some other wolves had one too

So there's some chance that, after NL dies and makes it 5-3, you could just end the game that evening with the NK plus a few vigs

And even if you don't, we're essentially right back where we are right now if you concede slighted always dies the next day, which is likely but not guaranteed

If you're a villager. Not much point in me hero voting.

I don't think I ever claimed that? I subscribed to the same world view, & then you made a case about NL which was a good case for the most part & fit in with my stated world view.

Slighted also made a decent case that fit in with my secondary world view, making it sound like it was his original thought.

So I guess I'm giving some thought to whether I'm getting played.

If I was playing you, assuming you're a villager, I keep it up and kill the villager

There's no universe where I don't take the opportunity to get it to 4-3 at worst if it's possible

Especially if I've already obtained THREAD CRED by bussing a tammate d1

Cred is fleeting. What I need more than why it doesn't make sense for you to be a wolf is why it does make sense for IRTM be one, so much so that you're willing to lock your vote in, despite concerns about both suga & me.

Like shouldn't you have some concern about whether it's me & suga & we'll just hammer IRTM & end the game?

I'll admit I was mildly concerned about it, but after NL flipped villager I reread EOD2 and EOD3 and it just hit me that IRTM was a wolf

The coder NK really dialed it in, because now we know for sure there HAS to be at least one wolf voting Crimson d1

Plus IRTM's volume dropped off the last few days, and he voted NL d2, which I can't really ever get past because, as I said, the wolves needed to kill NL before slighted, because once slighted dies ianaww is LOADS more clear (assuming he is a villager, which I think he is) because two wolves are now confirmed to have been voting him EOD1

Imagine how yesterday goes if slighted is still alive, and presumably here posts, while ianaww one posts

And, truth be told, I wasn't concerned about suga until coder flipped

So that was a fortuitous kill in that respect, at least

There's also the fact that coder was hot to trot on killing suga, if you're looking for a reason for her (?) dying yesterday