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11-26-2011 , 04:32 PM
its really stupid that systolic is trying to make a case on me for my voting records

when i havent been able to be around for the end of day.
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11-26-2011 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AKSpartan
At the very least, Willi's defense of himself has been consisent with past games in which he's been villager. When Willi gets heat, he gets really worked up, like the village has questioned his honor. He has also self-voted himself in the past. It's possible he plays the same as a wolf, but I think it's hard for a new player like Willi to merge their range like that.
i agree with this read on willi
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11-26-2011 , 04:38 PM
Votes as of post 3277
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VotesLynchVoters
3 Aksdal AKSpartan (17), EADGBE (12), XXsooted (4)
3 Willi Aksdal (27), DB305 (19), Systolic (48)
1 Nofear3838 Tappokone (6)
1 TheNothing VarianceMinefield (24)
5 not voting McAvoy (0), Noah (7), Nofear3838 (9), TheNothing (1), Willi (13)
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11-26-2011 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Systolic
Another thing to point out that the only time willi has posted its been to argue with people who have called him wolfy

He hasnt posted any reads of his own volition
This, while certainly not a great thing for the village, is also consistent with Willi's villager game.
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11-26-2011 , 04:43 PM
nofear

much better lynch then aksdal or willi
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11-26-2011 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
its really stupid that systolic is trying to make a case on me for my voting records

when i havent been able to be around for the end of day.
Thats all well and good and I am willing to consider the days you werent around as role neutral

The other days voting records are still wolfy
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11-26-2011 , 04:45 PM
My point is that unless you have missed every single eod, your voting record regardless of the day has been wolfy
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11-26-2011 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AKSpartan
At the very least, Willi's defense of himself has been consisent with past games in which he's been villager. When Willi gets heat, he gets really worked up, like the village has questioned his honor. He has also self-voted himself in the past. It's possible he plays the same as a wolf, but I think it's hard for a new player like Willi to merge their range like that.
I tried yesterday to impress upon him that he should not take the commentary as a personal attack. It's not. That said, if I am pushed to f3, do I want a team mate with me with a history of rolling over when the heat is on? If I were a wolf I would make the pressure unbearable for him. But that'd just me.
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11-26-2011 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Willi
Actually i changed my mind. As a new and emotional player it is pretty hard to deal with all the pressure and this is too much for me atm. I have some school stuff to do this weekend and all this stuff would take too much time and I do not see much chance to avoid lynch this time.

I already explain that read stuff in this post: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2712. As I mentioned then seems that everything with voting goes wrong for me in this game, so mislynch is very logical end to this game for me. I do not blame that later if you vote me, because voting history seems pretty bad and if you want you can blame me for loosing the game.

Also atm I would trust most Gad last list, because IMHO he is good player overall and as a seer he had little different look to things because he was villager with biggest info so I see great chance that his list is the best.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=3087
Willi you just have to remember that it's never anything personal, everyone in this game has to be picked over with a fine tooth comb if the village is going to find every last wolf. Very few people will ever make it to the end of a game of werewolf alive. It's just the nature of the game. What you should strive to work on is sharing more reads and posting more lists, even if you don't feel very strongly about your reads so people can evaluate you better later on in the game. Keep playing the game though, I enjoy playing with you.
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11-26-2011 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Systolic
My point is that unless you have missed every single eod, your voting record regardless of the day has been wolfy
meh i disagree

i hope you have been reading my posts as well and reasons

all of my votes have had reasoning behind them
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11-26-2011 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DB305
I tried yesterday to impress upon him that he should not take the commentary as a personal attack. It's not. That said, if I am pushed to f3, do I want a team mate with me with a history of rolling over when the heat is on? If I were a wolf I would make the pressure unbearable for him. But that'd just me.
I mean, there's little question that it's virtually impossible to clear Willi.
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11-26-2011 , 04:48 PM
also i really dont hold much stock in voting record

its just important to see if the vote made sense for the person

not if they hit a wolf
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11-26-2011 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Systolic
I love how I have gotten just about zero commentary on my analysis
sorry i dont play much on saturdays and im leaving soon. usually play more on sundays.

i agree willi needs to die at some point, but id just rather lynch aksdal first.

i kind of dont care much about voting records honestly, wolf bussing when theres a little heat has become pretty standard. i think people with the worst voting records are more often villas than wolfs. people with the best records are often wolfs.
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11-26-2011 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
also i really dont hold much stock in voting record

its just important to see if the vote made sense for the person

not if they hit a wolf
nice xpost

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11-26-2011 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by EADGBE
sorry i dont play much on saturdays and im leaving soon. usually play more on sundays.

i agree willi needs to die at some point, but id just rather lynch aksdal first.

i kind of dont care much about voting records honestly, wolf bussing when theres a little heat has become pretty standard. i think people with the worst voting records are more often villas than wolfs. people with the best records are often wolfs.
I dunno

My voting record is pretty good
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11-26-2011 , 05:06 PM
so is sun tzus

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11-26-2011 , 05:08 PM
sytolic,

I'm too lazy to read any posts on this page but lets talk about VMF and aksdal.

I need to re read Willi and nofear tomoorrow because they are still my two biggest villa leans. I'll make it well known tomorrow why I believe so.

aksdal brings up a good point about vmf and wolfing.


I didn't want to mention this before but to anyone with a brain, it should have been LOL obvious that Gadarene was the seer on d2. He has no history of reading me, and I was coming at him for no reason on d1 and all of a sudden he has me as a villager on d2.

It screamed seer.
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11-26-2011 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
nofear

much better lynch then aksdal or willi
Curious why you think so. Other than starting the timi wagon on d1, no one has much of a case against me?
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11-26-2011 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Nofear3838
Curious why you think so. Other than starting the timi wagon on d1, no one has much of a case against me?
all of your posts with lol came off as very wolfy to me

also a lot of it is process of elimination

i think a lot of people have done a good job at clearing themselves on tone and work.

i think you and thenothing are the ideal wagons for tonight

there is only 2 wolves left right?
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11-26-2011 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
all of your posts with lol came off as very wolfy to me

also a lot of it is process of elimination

i think a lot of people have done a good job at clearing themselves on tone and work.

i think you and thenothing are the ideal wagons for tonight

there is only 2 wolves left right?
What posts in particular? It's kinda hard to defend myself when all I keep getting is "meh, you seem wolfy." Thats the exact same reason I voted for timi on d1 and everyone is saying thats a "bs" and not good enough excuse, according to people here. I've got no way to try and defend myself if I don't know exactly what I'm defending.
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11-26-2011 , 05:29 PM
well you shouldnt be ddefending yourself nofear

you should be acting like a villager and trying to finsd the last wolves

you only popped in to see why i voted you

and you dont seem to really care about solving this

just surviving.
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11-26-2011 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
well you shouldnt be ddefending yourself nofear

you should be acting like a villager and trying to finsd the last wolves

you only popped in to see why i voted you

and you dont seem to really care about solving this

just surviving.
I'm sorry that trying to find out reasons of why people are voting isn't trying figuring out the game. I mean, looking for inconsistency from reasonings today, from past days, is not trying to figure out the game? If you're clearing someone/voting someone for a bull**** reason, you can be damn sure I'm gonna ask why and call them out on it, like I have earlier, today.
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11-26-2011 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Nofear3838
I'm sorry that trying to find out reasons of why people are voting isn't trying figuring out the game. I mean, looking for inconsistency from reasonings today, from past days, is not trying to figure out the game? If you're clearing someone/voting someone for a bull**** reason, you can be damn sure I'm gonna ask why and call them out on it, like I have earlier, today.
ive been very consistent in thinking u are wolf from day one

so dont focus on that
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11-26-2011 , 05:46 PM
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A retrospective look at d1 voting.

VotesLynchVoters
5 AKSpartan timistere (32), Gadarene (50), McAvoy (19), Tappokone (11), Willi (59)
5 HiFi Anarchist (448), Noah (58), Sun Tzu (107), Systolic (133), TheNothing (39)
5 timistere Aksdal (39), DB305 (29), Nofear3838 (62), The Moocher (85), VarianceMinefield (72)
1 shanks XXsooted (3)
1 Supine AKSpartan (21)
1 VarianceMinefield 27allin (24)
1 XXsooted shanks (23)
2 not voting HiFi (25), Supine (3)

Green means they're SHC or one of my villa leans, orange is my potential wolves. My wagon was very villagery - I have my doubts about Willi being a wolf and think tappokone is pretty villagery.

HiFi's had one wolf for sure, maybe more? But why would more than one wolf be on HiFi's wagon here?

Timistere's wagon had to have at LEAST one wolf IMO, between Aksdal and Nofear.
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11-26-2011 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
well you shouldnt be ddefending yourself nofear

you should be acting like a villager and trying to finsd the last wolves

you only popped in to see why i voted you

and you dont seem to really care about solving this

just surviving.
Your forgetting that not all people are naturally talented at hunting wolves and clearing villagers. ww can be a daunting game, especially when given 500 posts on d1 and a bunch of stuff by annarchist and systolic, then me and anarchist etc....


I honestly think you people tunnel too much. You see one post by a person and you ignore the 50 other villagery posts they made. I honestly can't see how Nofear can ever be a wolf.

But I don't judge people by one bad vote at eod, or one bad post, I look at the totalilty of their play, their motives and their ability level to show reason and factor in the possibility of them doing certain things as a wolf or villager.
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