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11-15-2012 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNothing
poop. missed 14k while on the phone.

2 day pass for first person to give me 14 karats


There are ~14 there
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11-15-2012 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Boo Radley
you're going back on ignore when I get home br0. you're saying I reacted badly to something I brought up myself?
No, and I think you're being deliberately obtuse now.

Outed Wolf was right about the fact that it was weird for you to even talk about being second wagon, and from there posts like sarcastically saying "oh like I wouldn't be the next target, lol" show a paranoia that would be villagery for some but not for you.

Like...there are villagery points to your game so far (threatening to use the ignore button like a bitch is not among them), so I'm mixed, but you seem to be collapsing for no apparent reason here.
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11-15-2012 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Outed Wolf
this is such a worthless tinfoil
i can tell that the impending soul read is making you nervous
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11-15-2012 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Eurotrash
why specifically would the woalves be handicapped with a troall role?

the entire point of a troall/jesteresque role is to cause confusion by forcing a villager to act woalfy
I gave the wolves a borderline troll role in Mystery 2 specifically to let them level the village with it
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11-15-2012 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
There are ~14 there
Gad wins
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11-15-2012 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ashington
Not sensitive. It just doesn't make a lot of sense. Actually, it makes no sense at all.



I mean wat? You took what is probably the least controversial post I have ever made in my entire ww career and are (pretending to be?) incredulous that more people are not voting me based on it. That is not a good look for you.

I'm not ready to call you a wolf for it just yet, as it is in your range and you are known to push people early on to see how they will respond, but I want to make sure this gets noticed just in case some tard shats me or I get mislynched yet again.
Iím trying to keep an open mind about Ash since lots of people think heís a wolf (or did at the point in the thread I was at when first writing this), but honestly I still think heís a villa. Bolded is particularly villagery.

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Originally Posted by captain binkles
Boo! It's been too long man

Ashington

CT and Boo seem like villagers, BAIDS seems like a wolf, Sando seems a little salty
This vote in particular is bad. Other ppl were voting him when his role was less obvious, binkles sticks the vote on right after he gets super villagery (imo).

Some more ash villa stuff;

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Originally Posted by Ashington
You're wolfy because two of your three early wolf leans are villagers. Maybe all three. The rest of your posts are just the same conversational stuff you usually display. IOW, I base my assessment of you strictly on your alleged reads and not tone. Tone reading you is impossible anyway for the most part.
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Originally Posted by Ashington
As a wolf he's much more "in your face" and sarcastic, especially when pressured. His villager game is more like what I've seen itt so far, making reads without a thought for how they might be perceived by others. But even more than that, his questioning of my village lean on him based on the one game we wolfed together I believe comes from a pure heart. I'm probably never voting him.
When questioned, he provides immediate, thorough explanations of his thoughts. This guy believes what he is posting.

Also this:

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Originally Posted by captain binkles
Rofl it's probably bad that I think Ashington changing his location is wolfy right
Is very wtf. Itís not something that makes you think someone is a wolf Ė itís something that makes you more suspicious of someone who you already have as a wolf lean, who you then start to conspiracytheory about. Add the rofl at the beginning and from what I can tell, Ashington is near lock wolf in Binklesí mind.

Binkles was repping a level of certainty here that I can't possibly believe he actually felt. Yes, he changed his story shortly thereafter, but it's still somewhat telling imo.

He realized Ash got super villagery right after that and changed his vote - first to baids, which was fine, but then quickly switched off and ended up leaving his vote on another villager before peacing for the night. Not a good look.
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11-15-2012 , 05:33 PM
xxsooted

for not posting

this is maybe the 3rd or 4th game in a row iv done this and it is getting old, especially because he frequently does this as a villager
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11-15-2012 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Hold'em 07
if his role was "bold in purple text: rig the game for [insert two players here]" and something bad will happen to them, it's a one time thing. that's his power. this is a theme where the potential for troll roles is a possibility and shark/kruze seemingly being unphased by cdl's post makes me think he had a troll role and is a useless wolf now
maybe the power only works while cdl remains alive, it could be a perma-roleblock until he gets killed

i mean, probably not, but maybe. lets just get him out of woalfchat and not shoot our full day seer by mistake.
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11-15-2012 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene


There are ~14 there
I count 20 if you don't include the deformed one 2nd from the left having two extra karats growing out of it
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11-15-2012 , 05:34 PM
hmm, yeah hard to determine if that role might be based on some kind of theme, bc idk if this game really has a theme:

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Originally Posted by looshle
"The invention of basketball was not an accident. It was developed to meet a need. Those boys simply would not play 'Drop the Handkerchief.' "
-James Naismith

i mean, does that mean anything?

anyway, if that post has anything to do with CDL's roal, it's obv Donaghy (as was pointed out), which would make him a wolf or maybe neutral (jester?). and yeah, i'm not sure how likely it is that the WILves would be hamstrung with a role that basically had to suicide like that, but not impossible.

of course the other explanation is that CDL just derped, hard to believe a top-9 player doing that tho, amirite?
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11-15-2012 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryant Reeves
i don't know who the hell he is (think i've played with him, but not 100% sure on that)

i know who they are, and that was the point of the inclusion on that list
how does knowing the player matter as to whether or not they'd be a good shat? presumably you included nutshat and xxsooted because they're UTR poasters, specifically zero-poasters (which is ~role neutral to begin with).


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wasn't being totally serious with that list, but part of seriously believes that their utility to us if villa is outweighed by their potential harm if wolf

kinda like how i binked Kruze n1 of a recent game. i figured "even if i'm wrong, so what?"

if you weren't being serious with the list, why even poast it?

and why now defend your choice to exclude tchaz?
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11-15-2012 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryant Reeves
of course the other explanation is that CDL just derped, hard to believe a top-9 player doing that tho, amirite?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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11-15-2012 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
No, and I think you're being deliberately obtuse now.

Outed Wolf was right about the fact that it was weird for you to even talk about being second wagon, and from there posts like sarcastically saying "oh like I wouldn't be the next target, lol" show a paranoia that would be villagery for some but not for you.

Like...there are villagery points to your game so far (threatening to use the ignore button like a bitch is not among them), so I'm mixed, but you seem to be collapsing for no apparent reason here.
yeah.I'm collapsing.
maybe vagos should shoot me
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11-15-2012 , 05:36 PM
Some random posts that I felt were worth noting:

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Originally Posted by Montecore
Got semi-caught up on my phone walking into work

binkles voting me was surprising (because he usually reads me correctly) so it would feel good (and a little lazy) to call him a wolf, but I'm not prepared to do that yet. d1 is d1 and thin reads are thin reads; his tone also feels different this game, but that could be an artifact of him being the lost wolf that game. I've never done it, but I'd imagine you'd want to soften your reads in general early on, because it would kind of suck to hard read half your team as a wolf early in the thread and then have to figure out reasons to flip once/if you get found

it feels just as lazy to call zdye a villager for defending me, but that's what I'm going to do.

tweedy feels villagery too for reasons I already explained

people voting dwetzel for changing his entrance when he said he was going to in the signup thread either have poor memories or an agenda

going to try to get caught up in the next half hour or so
This is pretty loose, and I donít have much experience with monte, but self-criticism itp is villagery. He does it again in his reads list, also villagery imo. Continues villagery tone throughout

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Originally Posted by BAIDS
bonkles why do u want me to die
Wolfy pop-in/lurking response Ö responds only to post about himself, nothing at all else game-related. Comes back in soonafter to defend his wolf game, criticize shark about not know about his wolf game ... still no game related content other than RT maybe wolf. Wolf lean

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Originally Posted by TheNothing
feel like what I'm supposed to do is vote for CDL
but that also feels kinda copoutish

blah

wiper had worst entrance

I'll be back later
Ftr wiperís entrance was either role-neutral or villagery for wiper imo. Very reminiscent of last game

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Originally Posted by Shark Sandwich
One thing though: has anyone ever seen a BOLD PURPLE ITA before?
yes, avada kedavra imo, modded by CDL. Which makes it more likely a fake action than a real action. Actually I was surprised that people were/are ever considering that it was real when it produced no obvious effect, and since looshle has obviously been around to process it if it needed to. Has there ever been an obvious in-thread use power that produced subtle, out-of-thread results?
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11-15-2012 , 05:37 PM
A few of BJís posts that suck out to me:

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Originally Posted by BJLTNYK
thru 4 pages

villagers
kruze
sando
lkj

wolves
accobra
tweedy sweet novel bro
pretty terrible lists imo

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Originally Posted by BJLTNYK
thru 6 of the pages

topics of discussion

captain binkles
CDL peeked wolf

villa
binkles
duckburg

unknown
CDL
Not sure if serious

In a vacuum Iíd say these are extremely wolfy, for some reason I donít want to call him a wolf for it though. Possibly the obvious double-placement of CDL, makes me feel like Iím getting trolled by a villager who doesnít care at all what people say about his lists. Anyway Iím going to ignore this read for now, I feel like lots of other people will read him correctly, and I shall heroically sponge them.
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11-15-2012 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryant Reeves
hmm, yeah hard to determine if that role might be based on some kind of theme, bc idk if this game really has a theme:



i mean, does that mean anything?

anyway, if that post has anything to do with CDL's roal, it's obv Donaghy (as was pointed out), which would make him a wolf or maybe neutral (jester?). and yeah, i'm not sure how likely it is that the WILves would be hamstrung with a role that basically had to suicide like that, but not impossible.

of course the other explanation is that CDL just derped, hard to believe a top-9 player doing that tho, amirite?
that role is not auto-death, it's possible to dig your way out of that.

unfortunately for him, CDL is a srs biz mechanics wizard who would, in my estimation, never do that. I mean the dude ran some harry potter games and we're supposed to believe he'd monkey around with purple text?

NO
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11-15-2012 , 05:37 PM
Wtf @ this exchange:

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Originally Posted by TheNothing
also, it looks like everyone has tweedy as wolfy. i thought his super serious game-solvey self was villager. i must be missing something or else this is gonna be another one of those games where my reads are gonna be totally opposite so i should just flip my lists.
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Originally Posted by Shark Sandwich
lol wat

Seems like everyone thinks he's a villager afaict
The obvious inference would be that shark agrees with everyone Ė that ash is a villager. How can he possibly crticize her comment for being unnecessary if he personally thinks that ash is a wolf? >>>>

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Originally Posted by Shark Sandwich
Ashington
The second time Shark did something offputting:

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Originally Posted by zdye724
<long colored post>
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Originally Posted by Shark Sandwich
lol hey there zdye

zdye
I had just been thinking that zdyeís colored post was by far the most villagery thing heíd done. Shark appears to think the opposite.

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Originally Posted by Shark Sandwich
So, Ashington.

I'm thinking he's not getting lynched today because of volume alone, but compared to the Buffy game, where he was tunneling and trolling me and Gad relentlessly, he seems much less willing to come at me or anyone else.

I'll lay off him for now because he's poasting loads of content, but I wanted to put it out there
Also, this. Super weird comparison. Ashington in Buffy was indeed doing exactly what shark pointed out Ė relentless tunneling of both Gad and Shark on d2. But hereís the thing, he was tunneling Gad because Gad was leading in votes on d1 and didnít get lynched, and Shark because Shark was defending Gad, saying wolves could have saved him even as a villager to make people say things exactly like what Ash was saying right then. Ashís suspicion was mechanics-based, not some mega-tone read that he couldnít let go of. Itís a completely different scenario.

Secondly, that was d2, this is d1. D1 reads are typically going to be much weaker than those made after the first EoD/night cycle. Not to mention early d1, where absolutely nothing at all game-related has happened, other than ppl poasting and making light reads. Itís absurd that Sando could expect anything comparable to d2 in Buffy from Ash itt at this time in the game.

Basically Sando is repeatedly making posts that make no sense to me. Definite wolf lean
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11-15-2012 , 05:38 PM
euro asking Bryant the same questions I wanted to ask scares me
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11-15-2012 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Forsythio
yes, avada kedavra imo, modded by CDL. Which makes it more likely a fake action than a real action. Actually I was surprised that people were/are ever considering that it was real when it produced no obvious effect, and since looshle has obviously been around to process it if it needed to. Has there ever been an obvious in-thread use power that produced subtle, out-of-thread results?
off the top of my head, it could cause them to lose voting power for the rest of the game
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11-15-2012 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Boo Radley
yeah.I'm collapsing.
maybe vagos should shoot me
I wasn't advocating that. Been pretty clear that I've gone from seeing you as a clear villager to not knowing what you are.

You generally reserve your collapses for your wolf games after all.
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11-15-2012 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
I gave the wolves a borderline troll role in Mystery 2 specifically to let them level the village with it
that seems like a ****ty thing to do since the woalves have a difficult enough time trying to appear villagery to begin with and moar often than not acting like a ****** is ghana get you gat

briefly what were the role specifics?
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11-15-2012 , 05:39 PM
I have a slight villa lean on BAIDS now
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11-15-2012 , 05:39 PM
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The obvious inference would be that shark agrees with everyone – that ash is a villager. How can he possibly crticize her comment for being unnecessary if he personally thinks that ash is a wolf? >>>>
lol, this can be ignored. For some reason, thought that TN had been talking about Ash, not tweedy
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11-15-2012 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
I gave the wolves a borderline troll role in Mystery 2 specifically to let them level the village with it
ok well i'm gonna go out on a limb here and speculate that noob mod looshle here didn't do that, and if i'm wrong, i'm wrong

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Originally Posted by Eurotrash
how does knowing the player matter as to whether or not they'd be a good shat? presumably you included nutshat and xxsooted because they're UTR poasters, specifically zero-poasters (which is ~role neutral to begin with).
i thought i just explained this?

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if you weren't being serious with the list, why even poast it?
why not?

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and why now defend your choice to exclude tchaz?
i'm not defending it, i'm explaining it bc you asked specifically.
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11-15-2012 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryant Reeves
anyway, if that post has anything to do with CDL's roal, it's obv Donaghy (as was pointed out)
A command to rig the games could easily be David Stern.
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