It does, thanks.

I'm amused by the way that vyk gets no heat at all for offing the wolf angel instead of the guy who just hero-shot a "lolobvious villager" (who was nowhere near lolobvious, but whatever).

This.

And this.

And probably wall of text incoming - assuming I don't censor myself

why? high drafted poggers don't understand the difference between a role-block and and angel and never claim when they are about to get mislynched as villa PRs.

even vyk had a neutral lean on himself

tchaz, I thought you played really, really well and did a great job clearing yourself with uber-villagery thought processes on Saturday

Er, village angel, I'm too embarrassed to delete/change it though so whatever.

HardcoreUFO - let start by saying two things.

Firstly, you were one of the few villagers who actually were trying to win the game, rather than troll the rest of us, amuse themselves, hang-out with their ww buddies or whatever else went on. I enjoyed playing with you.

Secondly, you did absolutely all time elite flavour for your Brazilian politics game - and more fool the residents of POG if they don't check out and love some of the brilliant music, film and literature you drew their attention to.

However, ....

One problem with this is: the person he told DWetz to shoot wasn't a wolf.

It seems to me you also managed to cram two other mistakes into these 18 words (i) it's completely untrue that the neutrals needed us to shoot a wolf - we didn't shoot a wolf & they nearly won anyway, and (ii) if he was a neutral we couldn't trust him - the neutrals were trying to kill villagers exclusively (until they killed BJL) with their day-vigs, there's no reason to believe that a neutral vyk wouldn't have had DWetz vig a villa and move on unscathed the next day with just a passing "**** acc he was wolfy anyway"


No - that wasn't what my point was. My post here is just quickly pointing at just a couple of the places in the game where you and vyk went badly wrong. You, I guess, admitted such on some points, although not particularly loud or clearly. vyk .. not so much.

It's fine vyk pointing out in postgame that somewhere he named a bunch of wolves. In fact what he did was tunnel gad for two days and then say "**** gad" after he was revealed a villager. At that point acting the "I'm the villa captain - y'all do what I say" has no credibility in a vacuum - which is where someone like me is wrt his meta with Hold'Em etc. As it happens, DWetz is right - getting rid of Hold'Em ([and .. well .. a list of others I've cut]) was a big plus for the village because that enabled us to actually try to win the game. Summary: you (ie you & he) don't get to say "trust me" and have complete credibility, and refusing to explain why reduces what credibility you have.

In fact we nearly lost anyway. Reasons include:

One. darO makes 1 post more than one line long in a 36hour day - in which he straight out lies about having wolfed with RT, so completely undermining the credibility of anything he says in that post - and dumps a lazy vote. But he probably does this in part because of listening to vyk.

Two, vyk also (and prior ot darO) dumps a lazy vote, wants to play Black-Ops with Vagos for 2 hours, tells us that at this stage there are no reasons - it's all his tone-deaf reads - and ****s off to a birthday party and the the pits at AC.

And you know what? Imo what vyk did is absolutely fine. ww a just a game. vyk has irl stuff to do. He was bored of playing. That really is ok. All of it.

But please don't pretend that his word is The Truth when he plays like that.



By the time we got to f8 it was imperative to have neutral leans. Arguably the day before as well.

Thanks gad. Easier to have villager-y thought processes as a villager imo. I enjoyed many things about the game, but some others not so much.

Warning: if I play again I'm likely to try to get some hints from you (or other experienced people) about the mechanics of 2+2-ww - how to assemble the material for a MQ in a reasonably quickly & stuff like that (that took me inordinate amounts of time this game)!

Sure thing. Hit me up on PM whenever you want; I definitely hope you stick around, and I think you're a valuable addition to the ww community. (I might not be able to help much with the MQ aspect of things, because they've never been my forte as a player, but I could certainly give you some mechanical tips on them.)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/46...ction-1199541/

cliffs: gargle my balls

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THAT GAME but this is basically the attitude I am taking going forward. I am going to play my game, have fun or not, and if people don't like it, gargle my balls imo.

Cba to check, but I assume that's RT wolfing with you? If so you didn't you call him out on saying he'd never wolfed? Back on you

oh wait .. was that the game with 4 wolf teams of 9 ppl and one villa? .. lol .. either you can deduce how RT wolfs in a more or less normal mish-mash from that (unlikely, but w/e) - when you have to call him out for telling untruths, or you can't - in which case you shouldn't claim you can and give the caveat of loleretta . but yeah - wp

imo wiper has by far the most value from these games - from what I've read. i'm going to try to wiper it up if I play again