Holy hell. Ate dinner and then was out cold. Solid nap.

I've got a ton to catch up on, can someone run a vote count?

ok sorry to be so fired up and somewaht douchey if youre villa. but its really the first game I had the true WIM, even if I most likely played like aids as they say

I'm a VC newb, never set it up and don't have any of the software on my laptop. But I don't think any votes have been cast since this:

so vyk is in atlantic city or just sniping?

So we seriously only have 3/8 votes cast with a little over an hour to EoD?

I don't really doubt this at all fwiw, you've clearly brought the effort this game.

It's just important to remember that WIM is role neutral.

Yep, pretty much. I really hope DarO plays and that tchaz INTERACTS (plz no eye bleeding walls of text in the 1 hour before EOD).

I think your case on accobra for SK is pretty good, RT, I'm just really hesitant because I think he flips wolf a very small % of the time.

Wow, I don't think many players do that (or maybe my not doing that is why I suck lol). Consider me shocked.

Because BJ barely posted until then? He made a few posts coming at you right near EoD the night before but he probably had 30 posts all game before that.

I've been saying the SK's kill make no sense to me for a while.

Unless he and BJ worked that out AND the SK had the awesome timing needed to spring their plan (by killing one of them), I think the odds are almost 0 of AK flipping wolf.

That said, I still think he's our likeliest neutral, though admittedly he's backed up the fact that he plays an odd game in previous games too with links so I'm less sure than i was.

so the SK kiilled:
forsythio d2 //consensus villa
montecore d3 //clear villa
gad d4 //into something?
kruze d5 //thread asked to kill him
hardcoreUFO d6 //most activer villa work
BJL d7 //UTR?

any more idea based on that?

i would hate that there is something mechanical that we are missing in this spot before casting this decisive vote

I have nfi what the time zone I'm being shown represents - the point is the comparative times. ct is correct that he made a case on effen about 3 hours before vyk showed up in the thread on d4. Vagos is incorrect.

first vote on Effen:

ct replies immediately at 2:13 and 2:15

Vagos first posts itt at 03:10 PM

at 4.43 vyk appears itt

I checked into this as best I could. It's not the first person to post each day, it's not the person to post at a certain time, etc. etc.

I could be missing it but I can't find any common thread.

votes days:
day 1: slighted 15 /daro 7 kind of throwaway
day 2: binkles outed
day 3: xx sooted /vmf
day 4: effen/kruze/loosekanen/TN
day 5: TN outed
day 6: silman outed

this is where we have to look at for villagers, expert on "wagonomics"

Not really, the Gad/Kruze combo is the toughest one to make sense of for me. I'm not sure neutral Vyk would day vig Gad in that spot after tunneling him relentlessly unless he really was just genuinely optimistic that he would flip wolf. I think Vyk said earlier that if he was a neutral, he'd push to get Gad lynched rather than vig him, but lynching Gad is hardly an easy task.

at some point i check if it was the higher poster from the day before, but it didnt work haha (checked that after gads kill)

Dude, what am I incorrect about? All I did was genuinely inquire as to when CT started pushing Effen and he told me it was that day and I said ok.

I'm not a fan of the way Vagos is spinning stuff against CT and then retracting with saying well that doesn't really matter the important thing is...

Back from dinner, have very little to add except that I feel less good about accobra than I did a few hours ago, but I'm not changing.

There's a decent chance he's a neutral, but there's roughly zero chance he's a wolf based on voting record (not that there weren't fairly ample bussing opportunities, but it's hard to go 5/5 doing that), and I at least am going for the highest (wolf%+neutral%) available. Unless you can show me that a particular person is thunderingly more likely to be a neutral than anyone else, and I don't think you can, it's hard to maximize total baddie equity by lynching someone who basically can't be a wolf.

you rang?

60-70% of what I've written i the last 26 hours is noise. That makes me pretty happy - becuase I've written a ****-ton in that time - and 30-40% of it has relevant content.

wat @ the bolded?

Ya....you gonna play? You said an hour or two ago "I'm gonna catch up and be useful." Are you caught up? Will you be useful?

I said that wrt his posting, that most of it was noise (I ballparked the %, it wasn't scientific).

It does appear like tchaz is just making busy work for himself though, rather than speculate on who the wolfy players are and why.

What I was thinking of holding back, but the hell with it:

There's no chance he's getting lynched today and I'm fine with that, but I'd better get it out there: unless vyk can start to elucidate reasons for his reads (and, Atlantic City or not, there's a long weekend ahead), it's reasonable to assume that he's getting those "reads" as part of a SK/neutral role that gets peeks each night. Failing to off me in the subthread and taking out Boo instead is one tipoff (not that I'm not grateful, of course), and if he's right about accobra as a wolf, it's time to start looking askance. Don't even think another minute about this post today because it doesn't matter, but ponder it over the weekend. He really needs to be voting accobra today, he's had a strong read for a while now, there's a good chance to lynch someone he says is never a villager. If he doesn't, he outs himself.

There's still no chance he's a wolf because he never outs the wolf vig, though.