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11-21-2012 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
I am soul-reading ash=wade seer
Ct= Lebron neutral day vig
Vyk= bosh neutral RB or maybe angel

Come at me
im a villager
if silman is the last wolf ash is a neutral, and i cant be a neutral.
if silman isnt the last wolf, i dont think there are three neutrals.
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11-21-2012 , 07:36 PM
Why can you and ash not be teammate again?
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11-21-2012 , 07:37 PM
Problem with that is wade is a dead villager

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=9704
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11-21-2012 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Tanner
That does make the entire LW theory a lot less likely imo. Back to neutrals with hilarious and awful kills.
Gun to your head, how many wolves do you think are left after Silman?

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Originally Posted by confirmedtroll
haha

show your work or something
Not much work to go with it right now tbh, I want to give you another look though. I'm just annoyed that if there's 2 wolves left AND some kind of SK or neutral team, the village is basically screwed.

Your only villagery contribution in this game is that you pushed vanilla Effen for one day, right?
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11-21-2012 , 07:38 PM
also, so far with the vigs won during the events we have had:

ash shoots moni
dwetzel shoots holdem
vyk shoots boo
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11-21-2012 , 07:39 PM
DarO raises a rather good point. I'll shut up now for a bit.
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11-21-2012 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Vagos
Gun to your head, how many wolves do you think are left after Silman?
1 wolf, 1 neutral (I realize you didn't ask for that part, but it's where I'm at).
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11-21-2012 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by confirmedtroll
also, so far with the vigs won during the events we have had:

ash shoots moni
dwetzel shoots holdem
vyk shoots boo
I shot CDL d1.

And saying that Vyk shot Boo with a vig is not really the case lol.
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11-21-2012 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Tanner
1 wolf, 1 neutral (I realize you didn't ask for that part, but it's where I'm at).
So give me your top 3 wolf leans. Forget about neutral(s) for a second and just tell me who the wolfiest players still alive are.
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11-21-2012 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Vagos
Gun to your head, how many wolves do you think are left after Silman?



Not much work to go with it right now tbh, I want to give you another look though. I'm just annoyed that if there's 2 wolves left AND some kind of SK or neutral team, the village is basically screwed.

Your only villagery contribution in this game is that you pushed vanilla Effen for one day, right?
im mad at this. im giving much of my time for this game. ive been trying to solve the game really hard for the past days. ive been re reading the thread so much. no i didnt find all the wolves. i dont have perfect info yo

every wolf in this game has been outed mechanically
forsythio DAY VIGGED
euro PEEKED
binikles PEEKED
okse NK
vmf DAY EVENT RESOLUTION
tn PEEKED
silman PEEKED

so gimme someone who has done a more substansial villagery contribution please
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11-21-2012 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by confirmedtroll
also, so far with the vigs won during the events we have had:
vagos shoots CDL
ash shoots moni
dwetzel shoots holdem
vyk put the final ML vote on boo over Dwetzel who he had commited himself to kill
fmp
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11-21-2012 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by confirmedtroll
im mad at this. im giving much of my time for this game. ive been trying to solve the game really hard for the past days. ive been re reading the thread so much. no i didnt find all the wolves. i dont have perfect info yo

every wolf in this game has been outed mechanically
forsythio DAY VIGGED
euro PEEKED
binikles PEEKED
okse NK
vmf DAY EVENT RESOLUTION
tn PEEKED
silman PEEKED

so gimme someone who has done a more substansial villagery contribution please
I was just asking, because, when you grilled me yesterday you asked what I had done in the game, and I actually provided what I think is a decent resume given the mechanics you just described.

When I asked for your villager resume, you basically replied something like "I pushed Effen until he was lynched." The very fact you were scrutinizing my game so hard yesterday while admittedly having not much to point to yourself is either not being fair, or wolfy.

Like, you don't see DarO or tchaz or BJL giving me s*** do you? There's a reason for that. The way you came at me didn't have a villagery progression at all, either.

I'm considering everything right now. No need to be upset if you're a villager. Isn't that what you told me?
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11-21-2012 , 07:48 PM
the funnier part is actually that boo probably never angeled ash.

waiting for the post game to see if its true
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11-21-2012 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Vagos
So give me your top 3 wolf leans. Forget about neutral(s) for a second and just tell me who the wolfiest players still alive are.
Only one real "Wolf" lean: BJ

I have a few "Skeptical face, likely-non-villa, will know when XXXX flips" but that could almost be anyone. I want to resolve DWetzel for the reasons I mentioned in the subthread but Vyk tone read him villa in there.

CT hasn't struck me as overly wolfy but his whole "LW" stuff seems a little fishier now that Boo fliped idiot (but villager).

Vyk and Ash could be non-villas for obvious reasons but I don't see either of them being that way.

You see where this is going. I think we have the wolf team in bad shape but I'm really not sure about the other team (which, again, I realized you asked me to ignore but I don't think I can at this stage)
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11-21-2012 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Vagos
I was just asking, because, when you grilled me yesterday you asked what I had done in the game, and I actually provided what I think is a decent resume given the mechanics you just described.

When I asked for your villager resume, you basically replied something like "I pushed Effen until he was lynched." The very fact you were scrutinizing my game so hard yesterday while admittedly having not much to point to yourself is either not being fair, or wolfy.

Like, you don't see DarO or tchaz or BJL giving me s*** do you? There's a reason for that. The way you came at me didn't have a villagery progression at all, either.

I'm considering everything right now. No need to be upset if you're a villager. Isn't that what you told me?
indeed. im a bit upset, but if youre villa i obv understand your pov

my mindset for looking at you was also that with utr/trolls dropping like flies and all flipping villagers, there has to be a deep cover wolf around us. i just scrutinized the ones that were reasonably cleared by the thread to see if that clearness held after further examination.

i think that in DarO/tchaz/BJL, the one who looks the worse mechanically is darO for the reasons you exposed yesterday with BR. tchaz and BJL are trolling the thread in their own way
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11-21-2012 , 07:54 PM
**** I totally forgot tchaz was even in the game. Add him to the possible wolf list.
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11-21-2012 , 08:10 PM
k lets see if i can actaully stay here and not get distracted by games on tv/sports betting between now and EOD

im going to re-read accobra and hopefully quote some things

judging by the thread ill also try and re-read tanner/dwetz/tchaz

lets finish this ****
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11-21-2012 , 08:30 PM
lolBJAIDS

btw:
Ashington 610
Boo Radley 573
Hold'em 07 567
Bryant Reeves 567
vyk07 559
Gadarene 541
confirmedtroll 534
loosekanen 493
KruZe 434
Vagos 414
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11-21-2012 , 08:43 PM
ok so wow...accobras d1 is just about the biggest howlfest of all time


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Originally Posted by accobra_kid
All right... clearly nothing exciting is gonna happen tonight.

My head hurts, so I'm going to do a little digging and then I'm heading to bed. I'll report back with my findings tomorrow. Hopefully there will be less than 1,000 new posts to digest between now and then.

Bryant Reeves has no place in a mish-mash, he needs to be sent back to his cattle ranch in Oklahoma.
this is his 2nd post.

1) joke votes early especially from newer players are generally wolf
2) talking about the size of the thread is generally wolfy

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Originally Posted by accobra_kid
Hold'em 07 received a number of votes early last night.

I haven't played that many games, so a turbo where he and I wolfed together is still very fresh in my memory. It was both his and my second time as wolves, and it was a disaster. Krayz pinpointed our exact wolf team 60 posts in. We caused one mislynch on n1, but other than that, it was a clean sweep for the village.

I started by looking at his non-fluff early posts in that game:







If he's a wolf in this game, I thought I might be able to draw some comparisons to his entrance here. I struggled to do so, likely because:
1) it was a turbo, not much content
2) if he's a wolf here, he likely has learned from any past mistakes
3) tweedybirdd did the same thing for a regular speed game (Pirates), it is a more recent game and likely much more reliable

If there are similarities between that game and this one, they didn't exactly jump off the page to me. With the lack of anything incriminating and the highly likely possibility that he's a villager here, I'll move on for now.
hard defends wolfy villager holdem

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Originally Posted by accobra_kid
I had voted for Bryant Reeves, a joke vote really.
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Originally Posted by okse54
it was a joke vote or it was because you thought it was hurp
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Originally Posted by accobra_kid
Both, really. No doubt he has been a thorn in my side in some previous games, hopefully this one is different.

He voted for me last night, twice if I recall correctly. Retaliating with a spite vote doesn't accomplish anything at this point. The game has only just begun, I don't have a read on him just yet so I can't claim his vote is wolfy and come at him.
explains his joke vote with okse. seems like a really standard d1 exchange between two wolves.

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Originally Posted by accobra_kid
I read over Silman. He has a herky-jerky, convoluted way of writing up his posts, but the content hidden behind the words is pretty good and he touches on a number of solid points. Is he always like this? In particular, I liked this post:



The only posts I didn't like was his initial entrance to the thread. Immediately upon arriving, he soft defends Bryant Reeves and strikes up a low-content conversation with him.













That exchange gave me a bit of a skeptical face, as almost everyone else has effectively ignored Bryant Reeves and his shtick since the game started.

Overall, villager lean.
hour before eod he re-reads now outed wolf silman. villager lean.

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Originally Posted by accobra_kid
okse54 has made only 17 posts that were very brief, low content, and concentrated a couple of very short time periods. Check them out.

I've seen him do very good villager work before, and when he does, he typically puts in much more effort than he has today. I'm tempted to give him a pass until tomorrow, but if it's another low effort day I will reconsider.
quotes some votes on okse...wants to give him a pass

cliffs:
joke vote on bryant reeves
discusses the vote with okse
hard defends a wolfy villager holdem
randomly re-reads silman and concludes villager
also wants to give a pass to okse

this is only d1 and really looks terrible. i've been soft pushing him all game mainly because ive been too lazy to go back and make a case. if killing silman doesnt end it he needs to be next.
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11-21-2012 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by accobra_kid
monikrazy suggested lynching xxsooted last night due to his lack of participation.

LKJ, Forsythio, tweedybirdd and Gadarene were all quick to suggest against it.

tchaz then makes an end-of-day appearance.

Montecore questions him on it, later votes him
Gad pipes up that he thinks he is wolfy, votes him
tweedybirdd votes tchaz shortly thereafter, later switches off
okse54 votes him out of the blue
TheNothing does too

I have a question for those who voted for tchaz, particularly tweedybirdd and Gadarene. How can you suggest giving a pass to xxsooted for his participation yesterday, then only minutes later, say the exact opposite for tchaz. That is very inconsistent, especially at the last second when Slighted was a far runaway wagon. Please explain to me how these situations are any different.
first post of d2...discusses unknown affiliation wagon tchaz development

wants further input from tweedy and gad

doesnt want more info from montecore, okse, and thenothing...this just seems like too big a coincidence. wants something to be discussed but doesnt want to throw his wolf bros into the fire having to discuss why they did something.
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11-21-2012 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by accobra_kid
okse54 has already done more work today than he did yesterday after he got called out on it.
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Originally Posted by okse54
i was at work for most of yesterday
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Originally Posted by accobra_kid
Cool. Glad to have you back, I got a real good vibe from you when we villaged together in RO3K.
ooooook

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Originally Posted by captain binkles
accobra iirc sooted didn't post at all and tchaz didn't make many posts but those few he did were prototypically wolfy, and him being around means he has a chance to claim for those that care about that sort of thing
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Originally Posted by okse54
xxsooted had zero posts

tchaz had a few

there is a big difference between an AFK and an UTR
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Originally Posted by accobra_kid
These are good points, thanks.

tchaz


THIS THING JUST WRITES ITSELF

IM STILL READING BUT ACCOBRA LOCK WOLF IF SILMAN ISNT THE LAST
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11-21-2012 , 08:55 PM
I can tell from participation that you've got a strong grasp on the pulse of this game right now.

BJLTNYK posts by day:
d4 = 4
d5 = 3
d6 = 4
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11-21-2012 , 08:59 PM
Do you really need me to go back to your day one and two and point out all the incorrect reads you made?

Or should I say, the incorrect reads that you made without even reading the thread?

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Originally Posted by accobra_kid
I am your top wolf lean!? Can you point me towards where you made a case against me? I don't recall us even having interacted at all this game.
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Originally Posted by BJLTNYK
didnt "make a case"...didnt like some post early d1...im grasping at straws today need reads on over half the thread still...tons o time left
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11-21-2012 , 09:01 PM
When Vyk gets back he needs to look at that accobra MQ and see what he thinks given it was his MTR that told DW to shoot accobra last night. Vyk needs to let us know if any of that was a substantial part of his thinking as well.
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11-21-2012 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by accobra_kid
I can tell from participation that you've got a strong grasp on the pulse of this game right now.

BJLTNYK posts by day:
d4 = 4
d5 = 3
d6 = 4
ive been skimming when thread is closed and before positng one of my high volume posts
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