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11-20-2012 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Hold'em 07
How do you know for sure...
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11-20-2012 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryant Reeves
were you pushing TN before yesterday?
Nope.
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11-20-2012 , 08:15 PM
I did give up a few walks in the 3rd and a single in the 5th, Henrik.
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11-20-2012 , 08:16 PM
vagos i cannot give you points for TN when, if you are a wolf you can totally bus her in this spot because:

-you, WOLVES, know that you wont let her get lynched.
-people might wanna solve the second wagon the next day, or basically you can go UTR and noone is mentioning TN again.

what if Ashington did not peek Thenothing yesterday?
actually i would have really liked for ashington to wait a bit today, but whatever.
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11-20-2012 , 08:17 PM
i just tried to skim your work, but it seems like 90% of your posts are a t/t showdown with Holdem
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11-20-2012 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Vagos
This is unsettling. Reads to me like hedging on bus potential if no viable mislynches come across the forefront.

What's worse is that she ultimately voted xxsooted even though she talked more about VMF being wolfy. This is what she had to say about sooted yesterday, best I can tell:








And then votes sooted.

Does this look like a villagery progression? Does it look like someone who is ultimately going to vote sooted over VMF? Very fishy imo, also wants thoughts from other people on the wagons but never really takes a stand on xxsooted either way.
there is some work here. there is another MQ as well.


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Originally Posted by Bryant Reeves
i just tried to skim your work, but it seems like 90% of your posts are a t/t showdown with Holdem
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11-20-2012 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by confirmedtroll
vagos i cannot give you points for TN when, if you are a wolf you can totally bus her in this spot because:

-you, WOLVES, know that you wont let her get lynched.
-people might wanna solve the second wagon the next day, or basically you can go UTR and noone is mentioning TN again.

what if Ashington did not peek Thenothing yesterday?
actually i would have really liked for ashington to wait a bit today, but whatever.
Ok, w/e, I mean, I have no defense with the way you've laid this out because I haven't done what Randy Johnson and David Cone have done...but just understand for a second, if you truly are a villager, that this is just you making my game fit your story and now you analyzing my game to try and learn what the story is.
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11-20-2012 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryant Reeves
i just tried to skim your work, but it seems like 90% of your posts are a t/t showdown with Holdem
Dunno, just read everything after Vyk tells me to move on and I say "I'm re-reading TN right now fwiw".

I specifically did re-reads of TN and Effen because they were Captain Vyk's top two lynch candidates.
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11-20-2012 , 08:22 PM
Also, if it's worth anything, all the dead villagers who are good at this game (LK, Gad, Hurp) basically cleared me for various reasons (Gad the least specific of the 3 probably).
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11-20-2012 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Vagos
Ok, w/e, I mean, I have no defense with the way you've laid this out because I haven't done what Randy Johnson and David Cone have done...but just understand for a second, if you truly are a villager, that this is just you making my game fit your story and now you analyzing my game to try and learn what the story is.
I'm a villager
I have read all your posts from the point of view "could he be doing that as a wolf?" and i never found something you couldnt do as a wolf. actually it was perfect wolfing show if you are one:
-you had always being considered villagery.
- you had appeared game-solvey.
- you had pushed people who flipped wolves afterward.

i mean why wouldnt the wolves put an pressure on you at some point when youre one of the top villagers in the game right now?
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11-20-2012 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Vagos
Also, if it's worth anything, all the dead villagers who are good at this game (LK, Gad, Hurp) basically cleared me for various reasons (Gad the least specific of the 3 probably).
lol @ this

i brought up that tweedy/gad cleared me easily and was laughed at
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11-20-2012 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hold'em 07
lol @ this

i brought up that tweedy/gad cleared me easily and was laughed at
Right, cause you're consistently terrible. I'm actually considered a valuable villager at times by several good players.
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11-20-2012 , 08:26 PM
pretty sure forstythio was cleared by all the thread
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11-20-2012 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Vagos
Right, cause you're consistently terrible. I'm actually considered a valuable villager at times by several good players.
Such valuable villaging this game arguing with me for 2 days



lol vagos
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11-20-2012 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by confirmedtroll
vagos i cannot give you points for TN when, if you are a wolf you can totally bus her in this spot because:

-you, WOLVES, know that you wont let her get lynched.
-people might wanna solve the second wagon the next day, or basically you can go UTR and noone is mentioning TN again.

what if Ashington did not peek Thenothing yesterday?
actually i would have really liked for ashington to wait a bit today, but whatever.
My biggest regret today is not waiting until close to EOD to get some possible spew
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11-20-2012 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Hold'em 07
Such valuable villaging this game arguing with me for 2 days



lol vagos
Everyone's had at it with you at some point or another.

All you've done is troll villagers and let wolves slide.
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11-20-2012 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ashington
My biggest regret today is not waiting until close to EOD to get some possible spew
ummm outing your peek before the day kill was a good choice for obvious reasons
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11-20-2012 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ashington
My biggest regret today is not waiting until close to EOD to get some possible spew
at least you submitted a peek.


sorry, i had to
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11-20-2012 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Vagos
Everyone's had at it with you at some point or another.

All you've done is troll villagers and let wolves slide.
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11-20-2012 , 08:34 PM
ash, how is the hurp re-read going?
i can do duckburg if its too much
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11-20-2012 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by confirmedtroll
TN/kruze/vagos guys if i die
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vagos i think ive a case on you. You re not getting lynched today so dont sweat it too much now

Tomorrow
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Originally Posted by confirmedtroll
Vagos ill talk about it when im home and i can MQ
Just for yucks CT, what was this original case that you never seemed to trot out?
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11-20-2012 , 08:35 PM
i meant hardcoreUFO*
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11-20-2012 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ashington
My biggest regret today is not waiting until close to EOD to get some possible spew
how could you even consider not outing the peek before the day kill was revealed?
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11-20-2012 , 08:36 PM
uurrrghhhhh - could you people make a worse thread to read?

ok, so whilst I was away from the internet I did a metric tonne of attempted wagonomics. Most of it wasted since I discover that kruze is villa and TN about 99%(? is this right or did I skim to fast) angel. However ....

I need some help here.

Wagons last night close to eod were 8-5 on the wolf, with TN on the villa. At this point if the wolves had two wolves on the lead (wolf) wagon would they not wait and then snipe the villa wagon?

If the answer is no then please help me by explaining why they wouldn't try that.

If the answer is yes, then the Effen wagon with BR and Vagos (but not TN) looks like it should be at least 7 non-wolves out of 8.

Next question.

TN votes Effen making it 9-4. Assume that she is a wPR. She could be doing this to try to claw back some "villa credit" after the previous night sniping from w to v. Are there any other reasons.

Next questions.

Why does BR snipe from Effen to Kruze?

Why does Hardcore try to snipe from Effen to Kruze? Are these just snap eod 50-50 decisions or what?

Final section of the quiz.

What are we to make of the Kruze wagon: Ash, Accobra, Hold'Em and BR (no need to talk about Effen obv).

to Ash - just curiousity: you said that Effen played the same as in a game in politards where he was villa. But why does that make him not a wolf? Surely you have to have seen him wolf to know how similar his villa and wolf games look?
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11-20-2012 , 08:36 PM
was just re-reading some stuff and came across this again, thought it was interesting...

[darLOL just did a previous EOD recap, lone conclusion is basically that loose = wolf, he pointed out that TN also made a bad voat but ignored her to tunnel on loose, hmm...]

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Originally Posted by Richard Tanner
Been saying that for a while Dar0.
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Originally Posted by Hold'em 07
darO droppin truth bombs
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Originally Posted by Richard Tanner
unvote
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Originally Posted by Ashington
dar0 doin God's work

loosekanen
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Originally Posted by Hold'em 07
loosek around 5 minutes before darO's mq. has not returned
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LK what's up man. Feelin' chilly?
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Originally Posted by Hold'em 07
loosekanen
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Hows that for an interaction loose?
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Yep loving this quiet time LK
it gets insta-sponged by a bunch of ppl

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Originally Posted by Vagos
Pretty good MQ Dar0, one thing I found curious was that you gave Ashington a "good votes" thumbs up for a VMF vote but failed to mention that his vote ultimately lands on Sooted. I realize Ash is pretty clear so it's probably irrelevant but it was curious to me.
Vagos is actually reading and thinking about it

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Originally Posted by loosekanen
i'm not going to be unhappy with the way i played this game. i honestly did my best to put out the best reads i could. i haven't been 100% perfect. i think anybody with meta on me knows that i'm not a wolf here, especially henrik, vyk, tn... people who just played a pony game where i wolfed.

an isolated incident from my posting looks wolfy to people who haven't played with me much and aren't intently reading the thread. i can't do anything about that. i had a reason for every single move i made in that eod. and it's not hard to see. but i'm not going to do everyone's work for them. a bunch of people who aren't playing the game can gang up and try to wagon me, but they're wrong. and the lucid players are going to see it
loose returns and responds

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Originally Posted by Hold'em 07
gave up pretty easily
Holdem still troalling

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Originally Posted by loosekanen
i'm going to be relying on henrik pretty much to clear me here. zdye thought i was a villager with some misgivings because i'd just wolfed against him. gad was in the same boat. boo has cleared me and boo never clears anybody. and it wasn't resultant to me trying to clear him. of the remaining posters i feel like i've done as much wolf hunting as anybody in the thread. if you're a villa voting me today over some of the other possible wagons you aren't looking at the game in a way that is conducive to finding wolves.
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Worst part of this is it is really clearing for Boo and he's going to be insufferable.


is Tanner TMI'ing that he knows loose at least is villa (and maybe Boo too?)

and he doesn't want Boo to be clear?

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Originally Posted by Hold'em 07
"a bunch of people who aren't playing the game can gang up and try to wagon me, but they're wrong"

"i had a reason for every single move i made in that eod. and it's not hard to see. but i'm not going to do everyone's work for them"

this is not villagery thinking
meh

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Originally Posted by vyk07
I'm calling loosekanen a lock villager for the record
vyk not having it

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Originally Posted by darO
Why?
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Originally Posted by Hold'em 07
loose's tone after darO's mq is......weird
meh, tunnel

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Originally Posted by loosekanen
do you want to tell these clowns i'm not a wolf?
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Originally Posted by Bryant Reeves
i mean, i don't think you are, but idk...

which wolfy characters had the worst votes on sooted last night then?

(or stayed out of it?)
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TheNothing
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Originally Posted by vyk07
TheNothing
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effen and thenothing for starters.
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TheNothing
this group obv looks better than the one who wanted to wagon loose over very little

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Originally Posted by Bryant Reeves
why do ppl wanna lunch loose?
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Originally Posted by Hold'em 07
try reading the thread instead of chat
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Originally Posted by Bryant Reeves
i don't have chat

and yeah i saw that big case on him a page or two back, but idk, he's been really villa this game imo (esp relative to how gd wolfy he was last game, maybe i need to re-think that tho)

why is he the best wagon for some? TN & Effen have both seemed way worse...


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Originally Posted by Ashington
Weird, LK just said THE EXACT SAME THING!
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Originally Posted by Richard Tanner
Well he said you'd come in and defend him and here you are so that's cool.
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i would expect him to say that, yes

i just happen to agree with him
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Originally Posted by loosekanen
right now i'd let holdem, boo and kruze all live until the end before i let ashington live until the end.
yeah i'm really starting to get suspicious of Ash...

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Originally Posted by Bryant Reeves
anyway TN & Effen prob need some HEAT

i'll re-think this loose stuff...


man i'm good at this...

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Originally Posted by Hold'em 07
loosek really grasping for straws here
more tunneling / troalling

anyway, i don't really like darLOL, Tanner, Holdem, & Ash there trying to build a loose wagon to oppose Effen
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